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Time Travel Is Not Possible

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First post2016-12-30 11:19 -0800
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  Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 11:19 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 11:22 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-30 11:47 -0800
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 12:01 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-30 12:25 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-30 18:06 -0500
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Peter <Poakfield@msn.com> - 2017-01-05 07:55 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-31 07:54 +1100
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-30 21:03 +0000
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 13:13 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Peter <Poakfield@msn.com> - 2017-01-05 07:54 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 13:20 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-30 21:30 +0000
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 15:24 -0700
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:25 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:28 -0800
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible tomkratman@gmail.com - 2017-01-05 15:50 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "chwilozof" <nieznajome@att.com> - 2016-12-30 16:33 -0500
      just kidding noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 16:00 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 13:03 +1100
      How to travel in time Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-31 02:38 +0000
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:21 -0800
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 15:32 +1100
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 23:05 -0800
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 19:07 +1100
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-31 10:51 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 11:44 +1100
                  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-31 17:26 -0800
                    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 13:10 +1100
                      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Yuri Kretin <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2017-01-01 11:18 -0600
                    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:48 -0800
                      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:03 +1100
                        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 21:07 -0800
                          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 16:25 +1100
                            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-02 10:19 -0800
                              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:54 +1100
                                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:18 -0800
                                  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-04 16:45 +1100
                                    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:53 -0800
                                      _the tetrahedron & how to use it_, copyr.'958, Oklahoma u.presS noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 11:43 -0800
                                      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-05 11:38 -0800
                                        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 12:35 -0800
                                        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 11:18 +1100
                                          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:45 -0700
                                          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-05 17:50 -0800
                                            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 13:29 +1100
                                              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:13 -0800
                                                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-07 11:57 +1100
                                                  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 15:30 -0800
                                                    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-01-07 17:20 -0800
                                                  no train,. no timetable noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 16:09 -0800
                                                    Re: no train,. no timetable Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 11:33 +1100
                                                      no watch, Miss traiN noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 15:18 -0800
                                                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 11:34 +1100
                                                  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:14 -0800
                                                    Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 17:12 -0500
                                                    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 22:40 +1100
                                            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-01-06 00:37 -0800
                                              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:06 -0800
                                              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:18 -0700
                                                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:24 -0800
                                                  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:00 -0700
                                                Gutless whining (was Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-01-06 09:50 -0800
                                                  Re: Gutless whining (was Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:00 -0700
                                          Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 21:43 -0500
                                        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:44 -0700
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-31 07:23 +0000
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-31 12:56 -0500
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-01 15:07 +0000
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2017-01-01 15:47 +0000
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Yuri Kretin <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2017-01-01 09:52 -0600
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 16:52 +0000
                  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Yuri Kretin <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2017-01-01 11:16 -0600
                    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 21:19 +0000
                    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:52 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:50 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Peter <Poakfield@msn.com> - 2017-01-05 07:52 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 11:21 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-01 19:15 -0500
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:56 -0800
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:14 +1100
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no> - 2017-01-02 23:02 +0000
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 23:05 +0000
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no> - 2017-01-02 23:17 +0000
                Winona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no.deer> - 2017-01-02 23:21 +0000
                  Re: Winona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore Olinda Metcalfe <efacf@ecMlcn.org> - 2017-01-02 23:33 +0000
                Guilt without sex Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no.pipe> - 2017-01-02 23:22 +0000
                  Re: Guilt without sex benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-02 18:49 -0500
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:58 +1100
              time of arrow'd noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 13:01 -0800
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-03 18:03 -0500
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sharilyn Vore <inolr@nryowno.an> - 2017-01-09 21:20 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 16:53 +1100
                  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 06:07 +0000
                    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 19:18 +1100
                      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 13:47 +0000
                      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-11 23:21 -0800
                        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:11 +0000
                          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-12 08:55 -0800
                            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 22:09 +0000
                              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 10:39 -0800
                                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-13 22:37 +0000
                                  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 22:41 -0800
                                  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:00 -0800
                                    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 15:25 +0000
                                      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-14 10:16 -0800
                                        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 21:28 +0000
                                          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible thugstyle103@gmail.com - 2017-01-14 14:59 -0800
                                  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:44 -0800
                                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible thugstyle103@gmail.com - 2017-01-13 18:42 -0800
                        wave at the clown noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:46 -0800
                  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:29 -0800
                    Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 14:04 -0500
                      Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 11:19 -0700
        Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-01 20:45 -0500
          travel taketh time ... usually noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 16:54 -0800
            Re: travel taketh time ... usually noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 14:18 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 14:19 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-01-05 14:28 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 14:23 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-01-05 14:26 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-05 18:13 -0500
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 13:08 -0800
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-01-06 13:30 -0800
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 15:27 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 15:25 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-01-05 16:05 -0800

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#611255

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-01-02 12:14 +1100
Message-ID<ectnrnF5fvnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#611252
On 2/01/2017 11:56 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Michael J. Strickland wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:19:46 -0800, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>> lets say
>>> you travel back in time
>>> in a time machine and your
>>> time machine lands on your
>>> grandfather and kills him...
>>>
>>>
>>> Time Travel Is Not Possible.
>>
>> And...?
>>
>> I don't claim (or know) if "time travel" back in time is possible, I'm
>> just pointing out that your evidence/argument does not preclude it.
>>
>> Your old "grandfather/father/? paradox" is easily disposed of but
>> there are some other difficulties which have to be overcome if you
>> travel to the past and then return to the present.
>>
>> In your example, if your grandfather is alive in the present before
>> you leave for the past, the grandfather you fall on in the past dies
>> but that doesn't affect the grandfather you have when you return to
>> the present. He is a separate entity. He is just as you left him
>> (alive). Obviously he could have coincidentally died while you were
>> "neglecting/relieving" him by traveling in time (lol) but it would
>> have nothing to do with anything you did in the past to his earlier
>> entity.
>
> THAT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I EVER HEARD!

It's the outcome if a time traveller causes a branch in the past, but 
returns to his original time line when he goes back to the future.

Such behaviour could also explain the lack of time travellers visiting 
us from the future - it would just mean that we are on the original time 
line for all of them.

Sylvia.

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#611378

FromWinona Bellard <erli@aeni.no>
Date2017-01-02 23:02 +0000
Message-ID<o4em6u$1o6f$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#611255
Sylvia Else wrote:

>> THAT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I EVER HEARD!
> 
> It's the outcome if a time traveller causes a branch in the past, but
> returns to his original time line when he goes back to the future.

Cant go back to a future. Absurd contradiction.

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#611379

FromKadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-02 23:05 +0000
Message-ID<09C56C65.9C9D435B@Edwardsiella.Mediterranei.Schtitka>
In reply to#611378
Winona Bellard, thou bloodshot flattering rascal. Ye are a goatish
scorn of women, an incompetent fool on both sides, an undesirable
crafty swearing rascal, a villainous martyr slain in cupid's wars, ye
advised:

> Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>>> THAT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I EVER HEARD!
>>
>> It's the outcome if a time traveller causes a branch in the past, but
>> returns to his original time line when he goes back to the future.
>
> Cant go back to a future. Absurd contradiction.

What you really mean is that your single-cell *COUGH* brain *COUGH*
can't parse the idea.

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#611381

FromWinona Bellard <erli@aeni.no>
Date2017-01-02 23:17 +0000
Message-ID<o4en1r$1o6e$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#611379
Kadaitcha Man wrote:

>>> returns to his original time line when he goes back to the future.
>>
>> Cant go back to a future. Absurd contradiction.
> 
> What you really mean is that your single-cell *COUGH* brain *COUGH*
> can't parse the idea.

Another half-engineer wannabe scientist. Once you've been overthere in the 
Past, how can that thing still be in the future. Go ahead and buy yourself 
a brain. You seems unfortunate. Prodigy, but still unfortunate 
nevertheless.

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#611383 — Winona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore

FromWinona Bellard <erli@aeni.no.deer>
Date2017-01-02 23:21 +0000
SubjectWinona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore
Message-ID<A84D2179.2A85455D@Frangipani.Meteori.Aviarius>
In reply to#611381
Thin wild-girl with diseased cathouse, cheap milk-bags, and unshapely
cigar-burn begs for lame doo-hickey for brisk interior sledging and
ferocious facials.

Contact me privately at mailto:erli@aeni.no for steadfast and keen
sink-the-pink escapades.

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#611387 — Re: Winona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore

FromOlinda Metcalfe <efacf@ecMlcn.org>
Date2017-01-02 23:33 +0000
SubjectRe: Winona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore
Message-ID<o4eo0q$1qq8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#611383
Winona Bellard wrote:

> Thin wild-girl with diseased cathouse, cheap milk-bags, and unshapely

What a moron, that's not her. You act like a half-engineer.

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#611384 — Guilt without sex

FromWinona Bellard <erli@aeni.no.pipe>
Date2017-01-02 23:22 +0000
SubjectGuilt without sex
Message-ID<77A525C2.CBA94016@Halomicrobium.Egena.Tetraodonis>
In reply to#611381
Posting gives me an erection.

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#611396 — Re: Guilt without sex

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-01-02 18:49 -0500
SubjectRe: Guilt without sex
Message-ID<586ae721$0$6140$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#611384
On 1/2/2017 6:22 PM, Winona Bellard wrote:
> Posting gives me an erection.

True for most of the nutjobs posting here. Especially Chimp and HVAC.

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#611432

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-01-03 14:58 +1100
Message-ID<ed0lrdFr91lU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#611378
On 3/01/2017 10:02 AM, Winona Bellard wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>>> THAT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I EVER HEARD!
>>
>> It's the outcome if a time traveller causes a branch in the past, but
>> returns to his original time line when he goes back to the future.
>
> Cant go back to a future. Absurd contradiction.
>

Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics (or even just 
the meaning of words) contributes anything to our knowledge in this area?

Sylvia.

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#611528 — time of arrow'd

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-03 13:01 -0800
Subjecttime of arrow'd
Message-ID<bc86e4e4-bc8c-437d-bfe0-8724936fa0b1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#611432
there isn't even any arrow of time;
that is just a\the reification of the notion that
time is anything but a scalar accounting or periodicities\frequencies.  and,
need I say ... I forgot

> Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics (or even just 
> the meaning of words) contributes anything to our knowledge in this area?
> 
> Sylvia.

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#611555

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-01-03 18:03 -0500
Message-ID<586c2dc1$0$11977$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#611432
On 1/2/2017 10:58 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 3/01/2017 10:02 AM, Winona Bellard wrote:
>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>
>>>> THAT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I EVER HEARD!
>>>
>>> It's the outcome if a time traveller causes a branch in the past, but
>>> returns to his original time line when he goes back to the future.
>>
>> Cant go back to a future. Absurd contradiction.
>>
>
> Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics (or even just
> the meaning of words) contributes anything to our knowledge in this area?
>
> Sylvia.

Give it up Sylvia. Libs don't do science. Their idea is that arguing 
about the meaning of words is somehow discussing science. Odd is a 
perfect example of that.

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#612280

FromSharilyn Vore <inolr@nryowno.an>
Date2017-01-09 21:20 +0000
Message-ID<o50ure$npd$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#611432
Sylvia Else wrote:

>>> It's the outcome if a time traveller causes a branch in the past, but
>>> returns to his original time line when he goes back to the future.
>>
>> Cant go back to a future. Absurd contradiction.
>>
> Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics (or even just
> the meaning of words) contributes anything to our knowledge in this
> area?

That's not semantics, lady. Read again. The thing is absurd, end of story.

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#612327

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-01-10 16:53 +1100
Message-ID<edjb78Fev35U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#612280
On 10/01/2017 8:20 AM, Sharilyn Vore wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>>>> It's the outcome if a time traveller causes a branch in the past, but
>>>> returns to his original time line when he goes back to the future.
>>>
>>> Cant go back to a future. Absurd contradiction.
>>>
>> Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics (or even just
>> the meaning of words) contributes anything to our knowledge in this
>> area?
>
> That's not semantics, lady. Read again. The thing is absurd, end of story.
>

You're not advancing your position very much. What exactly is it that 
you think is absurd, and why?

Sylvia.

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#612329

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-01-10 06:07 +0000
Message-ID<slrno78uho.knf.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#612327
Sylvia Else wrote:
> Sharilyn Vore wrote:
> > Sylvia Else wrote:

----snip----

> > > Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics (or even
> > > just the meaning of words) contributes anything to our knowledge
> > > in this area?
> >
> > That's not semantics, lady. Read again. The thing is absurd, end of
> > story.
>
> You're not advancing your position very much.

It doesn't beed "advancing".

> What exactly is it that you think is absurd,

The idea of time travel.

> and why?

Time is a noumenon, like number. It exists only in the mind of man.

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#612344

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-01-10 19:18 +1100
Message-ID<edjjnmFh0imU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#612329
On 10/01/2017 5:07 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> Sharilyn Vore wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>
> ----snip----
>
>>>> Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics (or even
>>>> just the meaning of words) contributes anything to our knowledge
>>>> in this area?
>>>
>>> That's not semantics, lady. Read again. The thing is absurd, end of
>>> story.
>>
>> You're not advancing your position very much.
>
> It doesn't beed "advancing".
>
>> What exactly is it that you think is absurd,
>
> The idea of time travel.
>
>> and why?
>
> Time is a noumenon, like number. It exists only in the mind of man.
>

And you know this because...?

Sylvia.

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#612352

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-01-10 13:47 +0000
Message-ID<slrno79pfr.1mh.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#612344
Sylvia Else wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > Sharilyn Vore wrote:
> > > > Sylvia Else wrote:
> >
> > ----snip----
> >
> > > > > Are you under the impression that arguing about semantics (or even
> > > > > just the meaning of words) contributes anything to our knowledge
> > > > > in this area?
> > > >
> > > > That's not semantics, lady. Read again. The thing is absurd, end of
> > > > story.
> > >
> > > You're not advancing your position very much.
> >
> > It doesn't need "advancing".
> >
> > > What exactly is it that you think is absurd,
> >
> > The idea of time travel.
> >
> > > and why?
> >
> > Time is a noumenon, like number. It exists only in the mind of man.
>
> And you know this because...?

I have a mind. And I looked. And there it is. Vastly useful and
completely insubstantial. Just like number.

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#612677

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-01-11 23:21 -0800
Message-ID<58772E85.4B09@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612344
Ned Latham wrote:
> 
> mlwozniak wrote:
> > Ned Latham wrote:
> > >
> > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance.
> >
> > So is the distance.
> 
> Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space.
> 
> > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel.
> 
> Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all.

Isn't space and time the same....space? 


If the earth is traveling around in circles..
then i'm traveling in space...
but in circles...

that's why it's the same day every day...today.

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#612692

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-01-12 15:11 +0000
Message-ID<slrno7f75o.ekf.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#612677
The Starmaker wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > mlwozniak wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance.
> > >
> > > So is the distance.
> >
> > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space.
> >
> > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel.
> >
> > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all.
>
> Isn't space and time the same....space?

Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as
different than space.

> If the earth is traveling around in circles..
> then i'm traveling in space...
> but in circles...

You do that standing still.

> that's why it's the same day every day...today.

Wrong.

Todays' today today;
Today's tomorrow yesterday;
Today's yesterday tomorrow;
Tomorrow's today tomorrow.

...

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#612708

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-01-12 08:55 -0800
Message-ID<5877B4EC.4771@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612692
Ned Latham wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > mlwozniak wrote:
> > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance.
> > > >
> > > > So is the distance.
> > >
> > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space.
> > >
> > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel.
> > >
> > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all.
> >
> > Isn't space and time the same....space?
> 
> Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as
> different than space.
> 
> > If the earth is traveling around in circles..
> > then i'm traveling in space...
> > but in circles...
> 
> You do that standing still.
> 
> > that's why it's the same day every day...today.
> 
> Wrong.
> 
> Todays' today today;
> Today's tomorrow yesterday;
> Today's yesterday tomorrow;
> Tomorrow's today tomorrow.
> 
> ...

it's today now..


come back tomorrow, it's still be today.

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#612785

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-01-12 22:09 +0000
Message-ID<slrno7fvki.p41.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#612708
The Starmaker wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > mlwozniak wrote:
> > > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Twaddle. Time is a noumenon. It has no substance.
> > > > >
> > > > > So is the distance.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong. Distance is length, a dimension of space.
> > > >
> > > > > > The idea of time travel is as absurd as the idea of number travel.
> > > >
> > > > Nothing absurd about space travel. Any distance at all.
> > >
> > > Isn't space and time the same....space?
> >
> > Of course not. Evewn the comedian One Stone had to postulate time as
> > different than space.
> >
> > > If the earth is traveling around in circles..
> > > then i'm traveling in space...
> > > but in circles...
> >
> > You do that standing still.
> >
> > > that's why it's the same day every day...today.
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > Todays' today today;
> > Today's tomorrow yesterday;
> > Today's yesterday tomorrow;
> > Tomorrow's today tomorrow.
> >
> > ...
>
> it's today now..

In your mind.

> come back tomorrow, it's still be today.

In your mind.

You just don't get it, do you? It's what I said: all in the mind
of man. And the occasional wannbe.

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