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  Problems could arise much sooner than predicted Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:00 -0600
    Re: Problems could arise much sooner than predicted Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-09 22:25 -0500
      Re: Problems could arise much sooner than predicted Bret Cahill <bretcahill@aol.com> - 2015-11-10 23:41 -0800
        Re: Problems could arise much sooner than predicted john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 00:52 -0800
          Re: Problems could arise much sooner than predicted Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 07:58 -0600
            Re: Problems could arise much sooner than predicted john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 06:57 -0800
              Re: Problems could arise much sooner than predicted benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 12:04 -0500
        Re: Problems could arise much sooner than predicted benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 11:49 -0500
    Re: Problems could arise much sooner than predicted gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-09 21:36 -0600
    Re: Problems could arise much sooner than predicted jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-10 03:35 +0000

#531674 — Problems could arise much sooner than predicted

Problems could arise much sooner than predicted
> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/11/persian-gulf-temperatures-may-be-at-the-edge-of-human-tolerance-in-30-years/

> Persian Gulf temperatures may be at the edge of human tolerance in 30
> years

> Humans can tolerate some extremes of hot and dry temperatures by
> sweating, which lowers our body temperature via evaporative cooling.
> However, this ability is greatly reduced when high temperatures are
> accompanied by high humidity. When people are exposed to a
> combination of higher temperatures and increased humidity, heat
> stroke can lead to untimely deaths.
>
> Existing climate models have shown that a global temperature increase
> to the threshold of human survivability would be reached in some
> regions of the globe at a point in the distant future. However, a new
> paper published by Jeremy Pal and Elfatih Eltahir in Nature Climate
> Change presents evidence that this deadly combination of heat and
> humidity increases could occur in the Persian Gulf much earlier than
> previously anticipated.
>
> These regions are critical suppliers of oil and fossil fuels, so if
> they become inhospitable to humans, the global consequences could be
> dire—assuming we’re still using these fuels as these effects kick
> in.
>
> According to climate researcher Christoph Schar, this region is
> particularly vulnerable to extremely hot and humid climates due to
> its proximity to warm seas. The Persian Gulf is a relatively shallow
> body of water, which allows it to absorb more heat than typical
> oceanic inlets.


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#531682

On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 21:00:17 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

>Problems could arise much sooner than predicted

Or, they could not.

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#532031

> >Problems could arise much sooner than predicted
> 
> Or, they could not.

That's what you tell yer homeowner's insurance agent when he discovers a poorly maintained high pressure loco boiler in yer garage.

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#532037

FEARMONGER
no science

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#532068

On 11/11/15 2:52 AM, john wrote:
> FEARMONGER
> no science
>

   What are you afraid of, John? The earth is warming and some places
   will get really hot. You are always complaining about how cold you
   get.

   Problems could arise much sooner than predicted
> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/11/persian-gulf-temperatures-may-be-at-the-edge-of-human-tolerance-in-30-years/

 > Persian Gulf temperatures may be at the edge of human tolerance in 30
 > years

 > Humans can tolerate some extremes of hot and dry temperatures by
 > sweating, which lowers our body temperature via evaporative cooling.
 > However, this ability is greatly reduced when high temperatures are
 > accompanied by high humidity. When people are exposed to a
 > combination of higher temperatures and increased humidity, heat
 > stroke can lead to untimely deaths.
 >
 > Existing climate models have shown that a global temperature increase
 > to the threshold of human survivability would be reached in some
 > regions of the globe at a point in the distant future. However, a new
 > paper published by Jeremy Pal and Elfatih Eltahir in Nature Climate
 > Change presents evidence that this deadly combination of heat and
 > humidity increases could occur in the Persian Gulf much earlier than
 > previously anticipated.
 >
 > These regions are critical suppliers of oil and fossil fuels, so if
 > they become inhospitable to humans, the global consequences could be
 > dire—assuming we’re still using these fuels as these effects kick
 > in.
 >
 > According to climate researcher Christoph Schar, this region is
 > particularly vulnerable to extremely hot and humid climates due to
 > its proximity to warm seas. The Persian Gulf is a relatively shallow
 > body of water, which allows it to absorb more heat than typical
 > oceanic inlets.



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#532083

Sam
Which would you prefer- that it get
"warmer" (which I see no sign of),
or that we return to an ice age?
Both have been the norm with or
without people.
I DO like bashing Big Oil- just because
they're polluting everything 
(And Big Pharma- because they make
and spread poisons)

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#532106

On 11/11/2015 09:57 AM, john wrote:
> Sam
> Which would you prefer- that it get
> "warmer" (which I see no sign of),
> or that we return to an ice age?
> Both have been the norm with or
> without people.
> I DO like bashing Big Oil- just because
> they're polluting everything
> (And Big Pharma- because they make
> and spread poisons)

Sam prefers that climate not "change" at all!
(which is totally stooopid given that the ONE thing ALL scientists agree 
upon is the certainty of change)

What he wants to change is your life with a return to happy feudal days 
of yore before there was Industry.



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#532097

On 11/11/2015 02:41 AM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>> Problems could arise much sooner than predicted
>>
>> Or, they could not.
>
> That's what you tell yer homeowner's insurance agent when he discovers a poorly maintained high pressure loco boiler in yer garage.
>

The last insurance agent I talked to told me that it was impossible for 
a person to have too much insurance. I'm sure you believe every word a 
salesman tells you, Bret.

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#531685

On 11/9/2015 9:00 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Problems *could* arise much sooner than predicted

>
>> Persian Gulf temperatures *may be* at the edge of human tolerance in 30
>> years
>
>> Humans can tolerate some extremes of hot and dry temperatures by
>> sweating, which lowers our body temperature via evaporative cooling.
>> However, this ability is greatly reduced when high temperatures are
>> accompanied by high humidity. When people are exposed to a
>> combination of higher temperatures and increased humidity, heat
>> stroke can lead to untimely deaths.

so what ? BFD.  that exists now.  the temperature goes up in the 
daytime, to 120 F and down at night, to 90.

It has nothing to do with some weazley worded world average temperature 
going up by immeasurable 1/2 degree F from 1940 to 2015.

you are selling FEAR.






so the Gov can tax you to death

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#531692

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Problems could arise much sooner than predicted
>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/11/persian-gulf-temperatures-may-be-at-the-edge-of-human-tolerance-in-30-years/
> 
>> Persian Gulf temperatures may be at the edge of human tolerance in 30
>> years
> 
>> Humans can tolerate some extremes of hot and dry temperatures by
>> sweating, which lowers our body temperature via evaporative cooling.
>> However, this ability is greatly reduced when high temperatures are
>> accompanied by high humidity. When people are exposed to a
>> combination of higher temperatures and increased humidity, heat
>> stroke can lead to untimely deaths.
>>
>> Existing climate models have shown that a global temperature increase
>> to the threshold of human survivability would be reached in some
>> regions of the globe at a point in the distant future. However, a new
>> paper published by Jeremy Pal and Elfatih Eltahir in Nature Climate
>> Change presents evidence that this deadly combination of heat and
>> humidity increases could occur in the Persian Gulf much earlier than
>> previously anticipated.
>>
>> These regions are critical suppliers of oil and fossil fuels, so if
>> they become inhospitable to humans, the global consequences could be
>> dire?assuming we?re still using these fuels as these effects kick
>> in.
>>
>> According to climate researcher Christoph Schar, this region is
>> particularly vulnerable to extremely hot and humid climates due to
>> its proximity to warm seas. The Persian Gulf is a relatively shallow
>> body of water, which allows it to absorb more heat than typical
>> oceanic inlets.
 
Or it could never happen.

 

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