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Gravity Particle Has no Spin

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First post2016-07-31 13:48 -0700
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  Gravity Particle Has no Spin "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 13:48 -0700
    Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Snowshoe <no@spam.please> - 2016-08-01 14:44 -0400
      Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-08-02 00:56 +0200
        Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 05:22 -0700
          Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 06:01 -0700
            Re: Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 17:05 -0400
              Re: Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 06:24 -0700
                Re: Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 07:29 -0700
                  Re: Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 18:41 -0700
                    Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-09 22:58 -0400
                      Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 11:59 -0700
                        Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-11 18:27 -0400
                          Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 19:30 -0700
                            Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-11 23:16 -0400
                              Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 04:48 -0700
                Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin "Eduardo Efftardo" <invalid@example.com> - 2016-08-09 12:46 -0700
                  Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 16:12 -0700
                    Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-09 20:31 -0400
                      Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 06:46 -0700
                        Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin "Giant Radioactive Easter Bunny" <invalid@example.com> - 2016-08-10 06:54 -0700
                          Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 12:57 -0700
                        Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-10 17:00 -0400
                          Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 17:38 -0700
                            Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin "Zen Pride Week" <invalid@example.com> - 2016-08-11 07:25 -0700
                              Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 08:06 -0700
    Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 13:53 -0700
      Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 16:36 -0700
        Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin hanson <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-08-04 16:51 -0700
        Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 14:38 -0700
          Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-08 19:20 -0400
            Re: Gravity Particle Has no Spin "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 16:41 -0700

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#591416 — Gravity Particle Has no Spin

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-31 13:48 -0700
SubjectGravity Particle Has no Spin
Message-ID<120ae896-23a6-4b8f-a71b-a1a335012c98@googlegroups.com>
Thus it has no wave. TreBert

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#591526

FromSnowshoe <no@spam.please>
Date2016-08-01 14:44 -0400
Message-ID<nno52e$19et$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#591416
On 7/31/2016 4:48 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Thus it has no wave. TreBert

As I understand, the graviton, if it existed, would have a spin of 2 to 
explain the properties of gravity, in the same way the photon with a 
spin of 1 explains the properties of electromagnetism.

Could someone explain how/why this is true? It seems rather 
disconnected/unrelated.

Also, if there was such a thing as a massless force boson similar to the 
photon/graviton, but with a spin of 0, what would the properties of its 
force be? How would it be similar to/different from electromagnetism or 
gravity?

How about a massless force boson with a spin of 3 (or more)?  What would 
the properties of its force be?

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#591556

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2016-08-02 00:56 +0200
Message-ID<1682811.taCxCBeP46@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#591526
Snowshoe wrote:

> [Why is the spin of a gauge boson relevant to the kind of interaction
> mediated by it?]

I think you should post these questions in <news:sci.physics.particle> if 
the results of your research (including the one on the Web) turned out to be 
unsatisfactory.

Also, you should post under your real name and, technically *and* socially,
you are supposed to post with an e-mail address (see RFC 5536), if you want 
to be taken seriously.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#591951

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-05 05:22 -0700
Message-ID<fc0a3f56-e8c6-4422-9a9f-2672ce031740@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#591556
Pointed remarks

"I think you should post these questions in <news:sci.physics.particle> if 
the results of your research (including the one on the Web) turned out to be 
unsatisfactory. 

Also, you should post under your real name and, technically *and* socially, 
you are supposed to post with an e-mail address (see RFC 5536), if you want 
to be taken seriously. "

I think you should stop harassing people or
I will be "forced" to lodge a complaint
about you.
If you don't like this group, fuck off.
If you do, engage.

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#591956

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-05 06:01 -0700
Message-ID<cc956267-13d3-4d26-a154-ed3c4083c864@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#591951
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 8:22:37 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> Pointed remarks
> 
> "I think you should post these questions in <news:sci.physics.particle> if 
> the results of your research (including the one on the Web) turned out to be 
> unsatisfactory. 

Why? Do people asking questions already know which a.b.c.d.e.f.g.... a
priori know to which group any question is assigned to? Free association?
The gurus in s.p.p. might find their way up to s.p. by chance?
 
> Also, you should post under your real name and, technically *and* socially, 
> you are supposed to post with an e-mail address (see RFC 5536), if you want 
> to be taken seriously. "

Lighten up Thomas, nobody takes anyone seriously on Usenet or WWW. Duh.
The modern generational sentiment: I was joking, it was mere sarcasm... 
You know... shoot to kill first, if time permitting, ask questions later.

Since Odd Bodkin tends to agree with you PointedEars, why don't you
logically and all, try get Odd to reveal his real name. I'll wait right here...

> I think you should stop harassing people or
> I will be "forced" to lodge a complaint
> about you.
> If you don't like this group, fuck off.
> If you do, engage.

Hi Sir JohnJi... good morning... Btw, not really a goth music fan I...
 
Was it not OneStone Physicist who plagiarized that “Creativity is more
important than Imagination?!” Pardon me m(y) accent... weather under I.
Where?! Cough cough ...fuck(y) you all... COUGH! He he... Cough cough...

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#592374

FromMichael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net>
Date2016-08-08 17:05 -0400
Message-ID<murhqb1dvi0gkths110lh973q6bp282t10@4ax.com>
In reply to#591956
On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 06:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Mahipal
<mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:

...

>Lighten up Thomas, nobody takes anyone seriously on Usenet or WWW. Duh.
>The modern generational sentiment: I was joking, it was mere sarcasm... 
>You know... shoot to kill first, if time permitting, ask questions later.

I take everything posted in this group seriously. That having been
said, my "killfile" (ignored poster list) is ever-growing. I have no
tolerance for people that just want to aggrandize themselves and
refuse to stay on topic. They want every post/topic to degenerate into
personal flame wars. Some flame wars in this group have been raging
for decades and have "driven out" many serious posters such as myself.
It would be nice to have a separate sci.physics for people using their
real names (like me) in order to eliminate some of the incoherent junk
posts and those encouraging them like your statement above.

My posts are serious. When I'm making a joke or being sarcastic, I
append a "- lol" on the end. I don't come here for comedy. There are
much better sources on the web for that. I come here for serious
discussion about physics. I am not a physicist (I am a bachelor of
science) (BSEE) and not a "bullshit artist" (i.e. BA - lol).

Physics is the foundation of all "hard" science/engineering and it is
critical to the integrity of the others. When physics is wrong, all of
the rest of the "hard sciences" (and engineering) are wrong.

...
---------------------------------------------------
Michael J. Strickland			Reston, VA
---------------------------------------------------

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#592490

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-09 06:24 -0700
Message-ID<03bb5efa-de84-4da1-8a27-0aeee0af302e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592374
On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 5:05:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Strickland wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 06:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Mahipal
> <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> >Lighten up Thomas, nobody takes anyone seriously on Usenet or WWW. Duh.
> >The modern generational sentiment: I was joking, it was mere sarcasm... 
> >You know... shoot to kill first, if time permitting, ask questions later.
> 
> I take everything posted in this group seriously. That having been
> said, my "killfile" (ignored poster list) is ever-growing. I have no
> tolerance for people that just want to aggrandize themselves and
> refuse to stay on topic. They want every post/topic to degenerate into
> personal flame wars. Some flame wars in this group have been raging
> for decades and have "driven out" many serious posters such as myself.
> It would be nice to have a separate sci.physics for people using their
> real names (like me) in order to eliminate some of the incoherent junk
> posts and those encouraging them like your statement above.

I've never had a killfile. Never. I've been in a few -- but that's
another funny story. These days Google doesn't even allow killfiles.

I had written recently, not in this thread, a line: Thomas, I support
your goal of people should post using their real identity.

So, no I was not encouraging the anonymous junk trolls. I have a long
Usenet history of trying to get rid of them, from each and every group. 

Nobody, not even I, can capture our full set of thoughts/feelings in
every post we make. I do appreciate a good insightful joke. TrumpLike
shortHanded -- since he obviously can't reach all the keys on his
keyboards, on his #smartestphones or otherwise -- insults, in his
usual and tired four words or less, do not impress me. NoVote4You@#!

Observationally, there are more older readers here who already know
me, than the newbies who write shorter than tweets.  Note, I didn't
say the elders like/love/follow me, they do however know me. He he...

Also, I have a long history, since early 1910s, of discussing physics.
I've earned the right to be a little light hearted in my conversations. 
Trust me, physics has not changed or even evolved much as of late.
I do try stay on topic, even if there is thread drift. It's not my
fault if some misread/misinterpret what I wrote/write. Bias happens.
 
> My posts are serious. When I'm making a joke or being sarcastic, I
> append a "- lol" on the end. I don't come here for comedy. There are
> much better sources on the web for that. I come here for serious
> discussion about physics. I am not a physicist (I am a bachelor of
> science) (BSEE) and not a "bullshit artist" (i.e. BA - lol).

Michael, your posts are good, however serious. Me, I used up my
lifetime's allowance of emoticons and LOLs. And the *asterisks*.

I am a MSME (Masters, Mechanical Engineering, of Science) and studied
graduate physics courses at Princeton, NJ. Major fan I. I'm ABD, not ADD.
 
> Physics is the foundation of all "hard" science/engineering and it is
> critical to the integrity of the others. When physics is wrong, all of
> the rest of the "hard sciences" (and engineering) are wrong.

That is a great topic for discussion! In my experience, Mahipal is my real
name, engineering progresses regardless of our state of physics knowledge.

> ...
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Michael J. Strickland			Reston, VA
> ---------------------------------------------------

I currently live across the Potomac River in Gaithersburg, MD.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#592494

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-09 07:29 -0700
Message-ID<f4d941db-f014-49a1-a9e9-feeaabafd190@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592490
Mahipal
How goes?
I passed on your "goth" impression
to Ben. Another friend of mine thinks
many of his songs are dark.
Ben doesn't think so.

He was doing a benefit concert
Saturday night, and did
a beautiful rendition of
"Isn't She Lovely?" that he memorized
in three days. Less dark.

I, too, have never had a kill file.
Does that mean we are at the bottom
of the barrel? lol

Personally, I think the New Physics
is at hand. Already known by some
who don't share and are throwing
barriers up to prevent others from
following. 
All is One.

Bushman talks of telepathy.
I had a telepathic interview by
someone who it was impossible
to lie to. Odd would have run like
the wind.

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#592614

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-09 18:41 -0700
Message-ID<5f716e53-cb9f-459a-8a34-edcfea8992cd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592494
On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:29:59 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> Mahipal
> How goes?

Goes? A bit unfocused regards me iPhone apps development work.

Other times, I attend a lot of funerals of uncles and their friends.
I'm not sure, do I wish for fewer uncles with friends, or just no funerals?

> I passed on your "goth" impression
> to Ben. Another friend of mine thinks
> many of his songs are dark.
> Ben doesn't think so.

Not surprising, BenjJi has a higher tolerance of gothic than most.
Afterall, Sir Ben has seen the ghostfaces of the Gods of Physics!
While BenjJi has balls, HVAC merely wants for more and more balls.
 
> He was doing a benefit concert
> Saturday night, and did
> a beautiful rendition of
> "Isn't She Lovely?" that he memorized
> in three days. Less dark.

Stevie Wonder? That's far from goth. Nice variety.
 
> I, too, have never had a kill file.
> Does that mean we are at the bottom
> of the barrel? lol

There has to be a stable base at the very bottom? Us.
 
> Personally, I think the New Physics
> is at hand. Already known by some
> who don't share and are throwing
> barriers up to prevent others from
> following. 
> All is One.

New Physics, that sounds just like New Weather.
 
> Bushman talks of telepathy.
> I had a telepathic interview by
> someone who it was impossible
> to lie to. Odd would have run like
> the wind.

That's a curious way to state it: 'someone who it was impossible to lie to.'
Lies, as a matter of actual fact, are the staple diet of lawyers==Lawyers.
Many a false lies have put lawyers' kids through Ivy League Universities.

Try answer, by selecting the right number(s), which statement is correct:

1: Friends of my enemies are not me m(y) enemies.  
2: Friends of my friends are not me m(y) enemies.  
3: Friends of my friends are not me m(y) friends.  
4: Enemies of my friends are not me m(y) friends. 
5: Enemies of my enemies are not me m(y) friends. 
6: Enemies of my enemies are not me m(y) enemies. 

Conclusion? Odd is just a weird troll with no singular thought of his own.
Explanation? I'm on his killfile, Odd did make it a point to advertise so.

Moral? There are risks of holding a killfile, by and for any names.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#592619

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-08-09 22:58 -0400
Message-ID<57aa9859$0$19996$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#592614
On 8/9/2016 9:41 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:29:59 AM UTC-4, john wrote:

>> I passed on your "goth" impression
>> to Ben. Another friend of mine thinks
>> many of his songs are dark.
>> Ben doesn't think so.
>
> Not surprising, BenjJi has a higher tolerance of gothic than most.
> Afterall, Sir Ben has seen the ghostfaces of the Gods of Physics!
> While BenjJi has balls, HVAC merely wants for more and more balls.

Hey, Ghosts are "goth" right? Well, my tolerance of Goth may be higher 
than most, it's not any higher than any run of the mill hospital 
employee. I used to work in a hospital. And as a result of that 
employment it is now physically impossible to gross me out. Yeah, I've 
seen all the gross in the world up close and personal. You just get 
hardened to it. The real problems arise when some other grosser and I 
just start having a normal conversation about something really gross 
thinking nothing of it (because we are both immune) and then you look 
around the room and everyone is slightly green and looking like they are 
going to barf.

Dark? No, I don't think so. What do you want him to do Maple Loops, 
start doing bubble gum and singing "chewy chewy"? Those days are long gone.

Ghostfaces of Gods of Physics? Um what is that? I mean the Nobel winners 
I actually studied under (yes this is true) were quite alive and 
ectoplasm was no where to be seen. Reber once built a deck for Einstein 
(or so he says) Does that count as ghost-god?

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#592799

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-11 11:59 -0700
Message-ID<7081a4f8-6bf5-4bb0-905c-cb15d60c2388@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592619
On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:58:36 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 8/9/2016 9:41 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:29:59 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> 
> >> I passed on your "goth" impression
> >> to Ben. Another friend of mine thinks
> >> many of his songs are dark.
> >> Ben doesn't think so.
> >
> > Not surprising, BenjJi has a higher tolerance of gothic than most.
> > Afterall, Sir Ben has seen the ghostfaces of the Gods of Physics!
> > While BenjJi has balls, HVAC merely wants for more and more balls.
> 
> Hey, Ghosts are "goth" right? Well, my tolerance of Goth may be higher 
> than most, it's not any higher than any run of the mill hospital 
> employee. I used to work in a hospital. And as a result of that 
> employment it is now physically impossible to gross me out. Yeah, I've 
> seen all the gross in the world up close and personal. You just get 
> hardened to it. The real problems arise when some other grosser and I 
> just start having a normal conversation about something really gross 
> thinking nothing of it (because we are both immune) and then you look 
> around the room and everyone is slightly green and looking like they are 
> going to barf.

Sure, but don't hospital workers get paid proportional to the gross they handle?

Forgive me for cutting and pasting lines from a dictionary:

2 (goth) [ mass noun ] a style of rock music derived from punk,
typically with apocalyptic or mystical lyrics.

• [ count noun ] a member of a subculture favouring black clothing,
white and black make-up, and goth music.

Grunge, Punk, Metallica, Rap, Disco... not my style. Do love Nirvana!
Here we are now... come and imitate us... yeah Yeah YEAH... Nirvana.
Then he blew his brains out in/with a car/gun... Weight, carry that, Beatles.

Like the great Sir John LennonJi sang: Give Music A Chance...

The irony, two musicians both with bullets through their physical heads.
Perhaps they should've worn invisible purple turbans? Oy vey... Spilt Blood.

> Dark? No, I don't think so. What do you want him to do Maple Loops, 
> start doing bubble gum and singing "chewy chewy"? Those days are long gone.

Well no bubble gum. John's son's music style choice is per his own preference.
Me personally, I do like sentimental music, English or Hindi, with deep lyrics.
Words can hold meanings, whoKnew... regardless, I'm drawn to/by lyrics.

> Ghostfaces of Gods of Physics? Um what is that? I mean the Nobel winners 
> I actually studied under (yes this is true) were quite alive and 
> ectoplasm was no where to be seen. Reber once built a deck for Einstein 
> (or so he says) Does that count as ghost-god?

He he... Smiling Ghostfaces of Gods of Physics?! The smiling helps. No?

I gave up directly reading Reber's one-liners a long time ago. I do read
the follow-ups. Everyone's obsessed with that ...youKnow... OneEquation.
He's now counting the number of his posts, forget that the content is zero.

Btw, those who find my posts misinformational, learn to killfile me Me ME.
I could care less how much you ignore me, afterall, I've survived being married.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#592843

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-08-11 18:27 -0400
Message-ID<57acfbe1$0$31338$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#592799
On 8/11/2016 2:59 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:58:36 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
>> On 8/9/2016 9:41 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:29:59 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
>>
>>>> I passed on your "goth" impression
>>>> to Ben. Another friend of mine thinks
>>>> many of his songs are dark.
>>>> Ben doesn't think so.
>>>
>>> Not surprising, BenjJi has a higher tolerance of gothic than most.
>>> Afterall, Sir Ben has seen the ghostfaces of the Gods of Physics!
>>> While BenjJi has balls, HVAC merely wants for more and more balls.
>>
>> Hey, Ghosts are "goth" right? Well, my tolerance of Goth may be higher
>> than most, it's not any higher than any run of the mill hospital
>> employee. I used to work in a hospital. And as a result of that
>> employment it is now physically impossible to gross me out. Yeah, I've
>> seen all the gross in the world up close and personal. You just get
>> hardened to it. The real problems arise when some other grosser and I
>> just start having a normal conversation about something really gross
>> thinking nothing of it (because we are both immune) and then you look
>> around the room and everyone is slightly green and looking like they are
>> going to barf.
>
> Sure, but don't hospital workers get paid proportional to the gross they handle?

Inversely, actually.

> Forgive me for cutting and pasting lines from a dictionary:
>
> 2 (goth) [ mass noun ] a style of rock music derived from punk,
> typically with apocalyptic or mystical lyrics.
>
> • [ count noun ] a member of a subculture favouring black clothing,
> white and black make-up, and goth music.
>
> Grunge, Punk, Metallica, Rap, Disco... not my style. Do love Nirvana!
> Here we are now... come and imitate us... yeah Yeah YEAH... Nirvana.
> Then he blew his brains out in/with a car/gun... Weight, carry that, Beatles.
>
> Like the great Sir John LennonJi sang: Give Music A Chance...
>
> The irony, two musicians both with bullets through their physical heads.
> Perhaps they should've worn invisible purple turbans? Oy vey... Spilt Blood.

Yes, I like your theory of the trouble being lack of turbanization.

>> Dark? No, I don't think so. What do you want him to do Maple Loops,
>> start doing bubble gum and singing "chewy chewy"? Those days are long gone.
>
> Well no bubble gum. John's son's music style choice is per his own preference.
> Me personally, I do like sentimental music, English or Hindi, with deep lyrics.
> Words can hold meanings, whoKnew... regardless, I'm drawn to/by lyrics.
>
>> Ghostfaces of Gods of Physics? Um what is that? I mean the Nobel winners
>> I actually studied under (yes this is true) were quite alive and
>> ectoplasm was no where to be seen. Reber once built a deck for Einstein
>> (or so he says) Does that count as ghost-god?
>
> He he... Smiling Ghostfaces of Gods of Physics?! The smiling helps. No?
>
> I gave up directly reading Reber's one-liners a long time ago. I do read
> the follow-ups. Everyone's obsessed with that ...youKnow... OneEquation.
> He's now counting the number of his posts, forget that the content is zero.
>
> Btw, those who find my posts misinformational, learn to killfile me Me ME.
> I could care less how much you ignore me, afterall, I've survived being married.

Oh my, so cynical, Grasshopper! Need to practice walking the rice paper 
more! It's so much easier to not leave footprints if you take all that 
heavy money out of your pockets and give it to her!

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#592868

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-11 19:30 -0700
Message-ID<b29a6047-0656-4639-b876-9b830251d572@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592843
On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 6:27:50 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 8/11/2016 2:59 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:58:36 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> >> On 8/9/2016 9:41 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:29:59 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I passed on your "goth" impression
> >>>> to Ben. Another friend of mine thinks
> >>>> many of his songs are dark.
> >>>> Ben doesn't think so.
> >>>
> >>> Not surprising, BenjJi has a higher tolerance of gothic than most.
> >>> Afterall, Sir Ben has seen the ghostfaces of the Gods of Physics!
> >>> While BenjJi has balls, HVAC merely wants for more and more balls.
> >>
> >> Hey, Ghosts are "goth" right? Well, my tolerance of Goth may be higher
> >> than most, it's not any higher than any run of the mill hospital
> >> employee. I used to work in a hospital. And as a result of that
> >> employment it is now physically impossible to gross me out. Yeah, I've
> >> seen all the gross in the world up close and personal. You just get
> >> hardened to it. The real problems arise when some other grosser and I
> >> just start having a normal conversation about something really gross
> >> thinking nothing of it (because we are both immune) and then you look
> >> around the room and everyone is slightly green and looking like they are
> >> going to barf.
> >
> > Sure, but don't hospital workers get paid proportional to the gross they handle?
> 
> Inversely, actually.

I hate your skills at Math, Sir BenjJi! Hate hate HATE! A life, get one.
 
> > Forgive me for cutting and pasting lines from a dictionary:
> >
> > 2 (goth) [ mass noun ] a style of rock music derived from punk,
> > typically with apocalyptic or mystical lyrics.
> >
> > • [ count noun ] a member of a subculture favouring black clothing,
> > white and black make-up, and goth music.
> >
> > Grunge, Punk, Metallica, Rap, Disco... not my style. Do love Nirvana!
> > Here we are now... come and imitate us... yeah Yeah YEAH... Nirvana.
> > Then he blew his brains out in/with a car/gun... Weight, carry that, Beatles.
> >
> > Like the great Sir John LennonJi sang: Give Music A Chance...
> >
> > The irony, two musicians both with bullets through their physical heads.
> > Perhaps they should've worn invisible purple turbans? Oy vey... Spilt Blood.
> 
> Yes, I like your theory of the trouble being lack of turbanization.

That's too funny/deep/true/... Stop that Sir BenjJi!

> >> Dark? No, I don't think so. What do you want him to do Maple Loops,
> >> start doing bubble gum and singing "chewy chewy"? Those days are long gone.
> >
> > Well no bubble gum. John's son's music style choice is per his own preference.
> > Me personally, I do like sentimental music, English or Hindi, with deep lyrics.
> > Words can hold meanings, whoKnew... regardless, I'm drawn to/by lyrics.
> >
> >> Ghostfaces of Gods of Physics? Um what is that? I mean the Nobel winners
> >> I actually studied under (yes this is true) were quite alive and
> >> ectoplasm was no where to be seen. Reber once built a deck for Einstein
> >> (or so he says) Does that count as ghost-god?
> >
> > He he... Smiling Ghostfaces of Gods of Physics?! The smiling helps. No?
> >
> > I gave up directly reading Reber's one-liners a long time ago. I do read
> > the follow-ups. Everyone's obsessed with that ...youKnow... OneEquation.
> > He's now counting the number of his posts, forget that the content is zero.
> >
> > Btw, those who find my posts misinformational, learn to killfile me Me ME.
> > I could care less how much you ignore me, afterall, I've survived being married.
> 
> Oh my, so cynical, Grasshopper! Need to practice walking the rice paper 
> more! It's so much easier to not leave footprints if you take all that 
> heavy money out of your pockets and give it to her!

Me, cynical? No. I just play the bamboo flutes... hear me now... here.

You Teacher Sir BenjJi are too kind, too understanding. I love that.
May the graces of any and all Gods be with you... all ways. Forever.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#592873

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-08-11 23:16 -0400
Message-ID<57ad3fb4$0$55830$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#592868
On 8/11/2016 10:30 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 6:27:50 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
>> On 8/11/2016 2:59 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:58:36 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
>>>> On 8/9/2016 9:41 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:29:59 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I passed on your "goth" impression
>>>>>> to Ben. Another friend of mine thinks
>>>>>> many of his songs are dark.
>>>>>> Ben doesn't think so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not surprising, BenjJi has a higher tolerance of gothic than most.
>>>>> Afterall, Sir Ben has seen the ghostfaces of the Gods of Physics!
>>>>> While BenjJi has balls, HVAC merely wants for more and more balls.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, Ghosts are "goth" right? Well, my tolerance of Goth may be higher
>>>> than most, it's not any higher than any run of the mill hospital
>>>> employee. I used to work in a hospital. And as a result of that
>>>> employment it is now physically impossible to gross me out. Yeah, I've
>>>> seen all the gross in the world up close and personal. You just get
>>>> hardened to it. The real problems arise when some other grosser and I
>>>> just start having a normal conversation about something really gross
>>>> thinking nothing of it (because we are both immune) and then you look
>>>> around the room and everyone is slightly green and looking like they are
>>>> going to barf.
>>>
>>> Sure, but don't hospital workers get paid proportional to the gross they handle?
>>
>> Inversely, actually.
>
> I hate your skills at Math, Sir BenjJi! Hate hate HATE! A life, get one.

If you hate my skills with math Loopji, what would you do if you ran 
into a REAL mathematician like Ramanujan? (I just saw the movie). You'd 
probably have to kill yourself confronted with that. I know I would.

I mentioned him to my mathematician friend and natch, he knew all about 
him. But he hadn't seen the movie (yet).


>>> Forgive me for cutting and pasting lines from a dictionary:
>>>
>>> 2 (goth) [ mass noun ] a style of rock music derived from punk,
>>> typically with apocalyptic or mystical lyrics.
>>>
>>> • [ count noun ] a member of a subculture favouring black clothing,
>>> white and black make-up, and goth music.
>>>
>>> Grunge, Punk, Metallica, Rap, Disco... not my style. Do love Nirvana!
>>> Here we are now... come and imitate us... yeah Yeah YEAH... Nirvana.
>>> Then he blew his brains out in/with a car/gun... Weight, carry that, Beatles.
>>>
>>> Like the great Sir John LennonJi sang: Give Music A Chance...
>>>
>>> The irony, two musicians both with bullets through their physical heads.
>>> Perhaps they should've worn invisible purple turbans? Oy vey... Spilt Blood.
>>
>> Yes, I like your theory of the trouble being lack of turbanization.
>
> That's too funny/deep/true/... Stop that Sir BenjJi!
>
>>>> Dark? No, I don't think so. What do you want him to do Maple Loops,
>>>> start doing bubble gum and singing "chewy chewy"? Those days are long gone.
>>>
>>> Well no bubble gum. John's son's music style choice is per his own preference.
>>> Me personally, I do like sentimental music, English or Hindi, with deep lyrics.
>>> Words can hold meanings, whoKnew... regardless, I'm drawn to/by lyrics.
>>>
>>>> Ghostfaces of Gods of Physics? Um what is that? I mean the Nobel winners
>>>> I actually studied under (yes this is true) were quite alive and
>>>> ectoplasm was no where to be seen. Reber once built a deck for Einstein
>>>> (or so he says) Does that count as ghost-god?
>>>
>>> He he... Smiling Ghostfaces of Gods of Physics?! The smiling helps. No?
>>>
>>> I gave up directly reading Reber's one-liners a long time ago. I do read
>>> the follow-ups. Everyone's obsessed with that ...youKnow... OneEquation.
>>> He's now counting the number of his posts, forget that the content is zero.
>>>
>>> Btw, those who find my posts misinformational, learn to killfile me Me ME.
>>> I could care less how much you ignore me, afterall, I've survived being married.
>>
>> Oh my, so cynical, Grasshopper! Need to practice walking the rice paper
>> more! It's so much easier to not leave footprints if you take all that
>> heavy money out of your pockets and give it to her!
>
> Me, cynical? No. I just play the bamboo flutes... hear me now... here.
>
> You Teacher Sir BenjJi are too kind, too understanding. I love that.
> May the graces of any and all Gods be with you... all ways. Forever.

Forever and ever, AMEN!!

It's a Western Civilization thing, Loopji, it means "as you have said 
it, so shall it be!"



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#592892

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-12 04:48 -0700
Message-ID<fb33d327-0b99-420d-a8b2-586e14b3b235@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592873
On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 11:17:11 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 8/11/2016 10:30 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 6:27:50 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> >> On 8/11/2016 2:59 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:58:36 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> >>>> On 8/9/2016 9:41 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:29:59 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I passed on your "goth" impression
> >>>>>> to Ben. Another friend of mine thinks
> >>>>>> many of his songs are dark.
> >>>>>> Ben doesn't think so.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not surprising, BenjJi has a higher tolerance of gothic than most.
> >>>>> Afterall, Sir Ben has seen the ghostfaces of the Gods of Physics!
> >>>>> While BenjJi has balls, HVAC merely wants for more and more balls.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey, Ghosts are "goth" right? Well, my tolerance of Goth may be higher
> >>>> than most, it's not any higher than any run of the mill hospital
> >>>> employee. I used to work in a hospital. And as a result of that
> >>>> employment it is now physically impossible to gross me out. Yeah, I've
> >>>> seen all the gross in the world up close and personal. You just get
> >>>> hardened to it. The real problems arise when some other grosser and I
> >>>> just start having a normal conversation about something really gross
> >>>> thinking nothing of it (because we are both immune) and then you look
> >>>> around the room and everyone is slightly green and looking like they are
> >>>> going to barf.
> >>>
> >>> Sure, but don't hospital workers get paid proportional to the gross they handle?
> >>
> >> Inversely, actually.
> >
> > I hate your skills at Math, Sir BenjJi! Hate hate HATE! A life, get one.
> 
> If you hate my skills with math Loopji, what would you do if you ran 
> into a REAL mathematician like Ramanujan? (I just saw the movie). You'd 
> probably have to kill yourself confronted with that. I know I would.

Without having seen the movie, Ramanujan strikes me as a weird
curiosity. A borderline numerologist?  How Ramanujan acquired his
insight/skills, will always remain a mystery. As much as I mock math,
I do respect the field. Without any limits kind of a respect. I still
get to mock math?! Hey MathPolice, get your damned dirty filthy hands
off of me! Let me go now, else I will 1 2 3 4 all you to the floor...
Let me go... I'm a card carrying licensed bamboo flute pla(y)er! Help...

> I mentioned him to my mathematician friend and natch, he knew all about 
> him. But he hadn't seen the movie (yet).

Movie or no, I really have to learn how to use your word natch, BenjJi.

<trim>

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#592544

From"Eduardo Efftardo" <invalid@example.com>
Date2016-08-09 12:46 -0700
Message-ID<nodbvj$1856$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#592490
>Also, I have a long history, since early 1910s, of discussing physics.

Shut up, idiot.  You're not 106 years old.

>I am a MSME (Masters, Mechanical Engineering, of Science) and studied
>graduate physics courses at Princeton, NJ. Major fan I. I'm ABD, not ADD.

Now go and lern hau to writting the engilsh.




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#592597

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-09 16:12 -0700
Message-ID<2cb824e8-b7f2-44ec-8af8-472a080a72eb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592544
On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 3:47:05 PM UTC-4, Eduardo Efftardo wrote:
> >Also, I have a long history, since early 1910s, of discussing physics.
> 
> Shut up, idiot.  You're not 106 years old.

Actually, more like not 126 years old. Now you STFU with your mother, fucker.
 
> >I am a MSME (Masters, Mechanical Engineering, of Science) and studied
> >graduate physics courses at Princeton, NJ. Major fan I. I'm ABD, not ADD.
> 
> Now go and lern hau to writting the engilsh.

I'll do that, as soon as you buy either a brain or a name. Your Mommy did
give you a name Eftardo? Close your eyes and remember -- English or no.

Am I mistaken, isn't Usenet a 126 years old by now?! I'm so confused.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#592609

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-08-09 20:31 -0400
Message-ID<57aa75e6$0$43853$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#592597
On 8/9/2016 7:12 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 3:47:05 PM UTC-4, Eduardo Efftardo wrote:
>>> Also, I have a long history, since early 1910s, of discussing physics.
>>
>> Shut up, idiot.  You're not 106 years old.
>
> Actually, more like not 126 years old. Now you STFU with your mother, fucker.
>
>>> I am a MSME (Masters, Mechanical Engineering, of Science) and studied
>>> graduate physics courses at Princeton, NJ. Major fan I. I'm ABD, not ADD.
>>
>> Now go and lern hau to writting the engilsh.
>
> I'll do that, as soon as you buy either a brain or a name. Your Mommy did
> give you a name Eftardo? Close your eyes and remember -- English or no.
>
> Am I mistaken, isn't Usenet a 126 years old by now?! I'm so confused.
>
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”
>
Can't be 126, Maple Loops. Neither I nor Algore are that old. And Hell! 
I was THERE when they invented the Internet! Yes, I actually checked the 
can count in the famous MIT coke machine! You know what is so funny is 
to watch HVAC our resident science and technology genius have his eyes 
glaze over every time I mention this. He goes on and on about how great 
DARPA is but hasn't a clue what ARPANET was. He is such a loser!
All Lib journalists are losers.

Now, you, grasshopper are just too young to remember any of this crap.

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#592656

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-10 06:46 -0700
Message-ID<e17887a6-e430-4a41-8dd4-1d6e9e0e8c23@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592609
On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:31:37 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 8/9/2016 7:12 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 3:47:05 PM UTC-4, Eduardo Efftardo wrote:
> >>> Also, I have a long history, since early 1910s, of discussing physics.
> >>
> >> Shut up, idiot.  You're not 106 years old.
> >
> > Actually, more like not 126 years old. Now you STFU with your mother, fucker.
> >
> >>> I am a MSME (Masters, Mechanical Engineering, of Science) and studied
> >>> graduate physics courses at Princeton, NJ. Major fan I. I'm ABD, not ADD.
> >>
> >> Now go and lern hau to writting the engilsh.
> >
> > I'll do that, as soon as you buy either a brain or a name. Your Mommy did
> > give you a name Eftardo? Close your eyes and remember -- English or no.
> >
> > Am I mistaken, isn't Usenet a 126 years old by now?! I'm so confused.
> >
> > -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”
> >
> Can't be 126, Maple Loops. Neither I nor Algore are that old. And Hell! 
> I was THERE when they invented the Internet! Yes, I actually checked the 
> can count in the famous MIT coke machine! You know what is so funny is 
> to watch HVAC our resident science and technology genius have his eyes 
> glaze over every time I mention this. He goes on and on about how great 
> DARPA is but hasn't a clue what ARPANET was. He is such a loser!
> All Lib journalists are losers.

126? I remember once Sir hansonJi thought m(y) 7638 was 7/6/38 and me birthdate.
Then I pointed out 7638 is POET in SMSspeakIsmIshQ, not my physics limited age. 

First I typed 1990s, then 1900s to feign a typo, I settled for baiting by 1910s!
All the while thinking that sane people would get the obvious joke at
first sight; while the biased ones would claim a numerical error victory.

Al Gore, who first invented the Internet, gave us Us US Bush2000, then
documented Global Warming via Hollywood, and is now eagerly working
on Cured By BotoX Vanit(y)fication?! That one Al? I've never heard of him.
O wait... listen... I hear Al's private jets polluting over me cuckoo's nest.

> Now, you, grasshopper are just too young to remember any of this crap.

I wish! To be a open-minded 26 year old with the wisdom of a 62 year old.
You are young, that's your fault... like a Cat Stevens I... so much to know.

I, Shaolin Priest to be, learning to walk on white rice paper without
leaving a ...youKnow, did enter the computers' world in the couple of
years the Hollerith cards (Thank you IBM!) were being replaced with
paperless terminals. I've read a lot about public ARPANET, DARPANET, and
deny_at_all_cost_projects_like PAPERCLIP. I get Internet, not its History.

I'm so confused... The Truth Is Out There... FBI, Fidelity, Blah^3, I i I.

Given: If there was a reliable believable government, then there would be no doubt.
Consequence: Let's eliminate all the doubters... then we We WE the government win?!

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#592658

From"Giant Radioactive Easter Bunny" <invalid@example.com>
Date2016-08-10 06:54 -0700
Message-ID<nofbma$1tts$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#592656
Shut up, idiot.

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