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| Started by | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| First post | 2026-04-18 17:12 +0000 |
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Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-18 17:12 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-18 12:32 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-19 06:32 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-19 07:45 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-20 03:49 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-04-19 20:16 +0200
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2026-04-19 12:03 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2026-04-19 12:47 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 10:40 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 05:08 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 20:14 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-04-19 22:00 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-04-20 09:26 +0200
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 10:42 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 10:37 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers joegwinn@comcast.net - 2026-04-20 14:54 -0400
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers joegwinn@comcast.net - 2026-04-20 18:00 -0400
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 05:57 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 18:40 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers joegwinn@comcast.net - 2026-04-19 15:12 -0400
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-19 12:50 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-04-19 21:40 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 07:10 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 03:17 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 10:29 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 04:21 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 12:01 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 05:50 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 06:45 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 17:29 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 10:57 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-22 08:12 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 18:53 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-04-21 01:05 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 06:57 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-04-21 10:13 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 10:29 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 01:52 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 09:38 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 16:51 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 08:24 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-24 03:59 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-20 06:10 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> - 2026-04-20 10:03 -0400
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 07:18 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> - 2026-04-28 08:25 -0400
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-28 07:01 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-29 03:42 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-28 12:51 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-29 14:58 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-29 08:25 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-30 01:44 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-29 09:45 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-30 23:12 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers x3 <x@x.net> - 2026-04-29 03:59 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-04-19 11:04 +0200
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> - 2026-04-20 10:07 -0400
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 07:55 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 03:35 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-20 12:07 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 05:35 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 07:03 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 17:19 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 10:42 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-22 07:55 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 08:04 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-23 06:22 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-21 21:35 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 07:12 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-21 17:11 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 10:52 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-22 07:21 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 10:13 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-04-23 06:49 +0000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 11:07 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 17:08 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 11:14 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-04-23 21:15 +0200
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 12:26 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-24 05:18 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 12:30 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 02:33 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers joegwinn@comcast.net - 2026-04-22 12:46 -0400
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers KevinJ93 <kevin_es@whitedigs.com> - 2026-04-21 11:06 -0700
IRe: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-21 17:08 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 02:22 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> - 2026-04-22 08:11 -0400
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-22 10:18 -0700
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-04-23 17:17 +1000
Re: Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-04-23 11:23 -0700
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-18 17:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers |
| Message-ID | <10s0e2d$3cjnt$1@dont-email.me> |
From: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/04/260417085404.htm Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers Your “magic” sponge might be quietly adding trillions of microplastics to the planet. Date: April 18, 2026 Source: American Chemical Society Summary: That “magic” sponge under your sink may be hiding an environmental downside. While melamine sponges are famous for effortlessly scrubbing away stubborn stains, they slowly break down as you use them—shedding tiny plastic fibers that wash into water systems. Researchers estimate that globally, these sponges could release over a trillion microplastic fibers every month, potentially entering the food chain and affecting wildlife.
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| From | john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-18 12:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <psl7uktmpi6gul20sg6ea1jb7m5538le6t@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #895736 |
On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote: >From: > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/04/260417085404.htm >Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers >Your “magic� sponge might be quietly adding trillions of microplastics to the planet. >Date: > April 18, 2026 >Source: > American Chemical Society >Summary: > That “magic� sponge under your sink may be hiding an environmental downside. While melamine sponges are famous for effortlessly scrubbing away stubborn stains, they slowly break down as you use them—shedding tiny plastic fibers that wash into water systems. Researchers estimate that globally, these sponges could release over a trillion microplastic fibers every month, potentially entering the food chain and affecting wildlife. There are about 1e31 bacteria on Earth. A few trilion microplastic things don't matter. The bacteria will eat them; food chain indeed. I wasn't worried about that big oil spill in the Gulf. The critters down there love oil. John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-19 06:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10s1stj$3pm5m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #895741 |
>john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >wrote: > >>From: >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/04/260417085404.htm >>Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers >>Your тАЬmagicтА? sponge might be quietly adding trillions of microplastics to the planet. >>Date: >> April 18, 2026 >>Source: >> American Chemical Society >>Summary: >> That тАЬmagicтА? sponge under your sink may be hiding an environmental downside. While melamine sponges are famous for >> effortlessly scrubbing away stubborn stains, they slowly break down as you use themтАФshedding tiny plastic fibers that wash into water >> systems. Researchers estimate that globally, these sponges could release over a trillion microplastic fibers every month, >> potentially entering the food chain and affecting wildlife. > >There are about 1e31 bacteria on Earth. A few trilion microplastic >things don't matter. The bacteria will eat them; food chain indeed. Not all micro plastics are edible by bacteria? >I wasn't worried about that big oil spill in the Gulf. The critters >down there love oil. Well, earth (sun) will go in time anyways.. So will we, nothing to worry about. But I still do not want plastic and oil for dinner... After watching a Chinese engineer talking about China's deepseek AI being better than the US AI bubbling stuff I made a deepseek account : deepseek.com chose English Very nice! Asked it to create some C code that prints: 'hello world' No bloat, the right code, nice interaction. From that Chinese man, who also worked in the US and predicted several previous financial bubbles and now a US AI one; what he was saying matches my view of US AI going for some bubble too. Seems trump now also twists and turns again: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/17/anthropic-dario-amodei-trump-mythos.html
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| From | john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-19 07:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <49q9uk51vf7ec2fnsd0jgholedq6o9uju8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #895755 |
On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote: >>john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote: >> >>>From: >>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/04/260417085404.htm >>>Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers >>>Your “magic� sponge might be quietly adding trillions of microplastics to the planet. >>>Date: >>> April 18, 2026 >>>Source: >>> American Chemical Society >>>Summary: >>> That “magic� sponge under your sink may be hiding an environmental downside. While melamine sponges are famous for >>> effortlessly scrubbing away stubborn stains, they slowly break down as you use them—shedding tiny plastic fibers that wash into water >>> systems. Researchers estimate that globally, these sponges could release over a trillion microplastic fibers every month, >>> potentially entering the food chain and affecting wildlife. >> >>There are about 1e31 bacteria on Earth. A few trilion microplastic >>things don't matter. The bacteria will eat them; food chain indeed. > >Not all micro plastics are edible by bacteria? > > >>I wasn't worried about that big oil spill in the Gulf. The critters >>down there love oil. > >Well, earth (sun) will go in time anyways.. So will we, nothing to worry about. >But I still do not want plastic and oil for dinner... > >After watching a Chinese engineer talking about China's deepseek AI being better than the US AI bubbling stuff >I made a deepseek account : >deepseek.com > chose English > >Very nice! >Asked it to create some C code that prints: 'hello world' >No bloat, the right code, nice interaction. There are also several amazing AI things that will design the hardware and the software to make an electronic product. They all design wonderful LED blinkers. >From that Chinese man, who also worked in the US and predicted several previous financial bubbles and now a US AI one; >what he was saying matches my view of US AI going for some bubble too. Sure, AI is a huge bubble. Bubbles happen regularly. Robotics is big here now too. > >Seems trump now also twists and turns again: > https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/17/anthropic-dario-amodei-trump-mythos.html TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from brain rot. John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-04-20 03:49 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <10s34ju$55n5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #895758 |
On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: > On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> > wrote: >>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>> wrote: <snip> > TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from > brain rot. If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he used to be, you've got a problem. The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot less rat-like cunning to be seen. We all know what he an Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. They should have had enough sense to know that it wasn't going to have that effect - if you kill off a bunch of sincere fanatics, they get replaced by people who are even more sincerely fanatical and even further out of touch with reality (and somewhat disturbed by the sudden deaths of lots of their colleagues). It's a big enough misjudgement that their colleagues should have found some excuse to get rid of them before they did something even more foolish, but Trump's cabinet isn't full of people who can think for themselves and Netanyahu has spent years purging the Israeli cabinet of anybody brave enough to disagree with him. So we've got the US, Israel and Iran run by a bunch of dangerous lunatics, and Trump and Netanyahu have put an even more deranged bunch in charge in Iran. What we need is a UN mental health force to take them all off to an international lunatic asylum, and put in a bunch of timid bureaucrats to tidy up the mess. It isn't going to happen, but we can dream. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> |
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| Date | 2026-04-19 20:16 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <10s366k$k99t$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #895759 |
Am 19.04.26 um 19:49 schrieb Bill Sloman: > On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >> wrote: >>>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>> wrote: > > <snip> > >> TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from >> brain rot. > > If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he > used to be, you've got a problem. > > The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown > with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he > has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot > less rat-like cunning to be seen. > > We all know what he an Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most > of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. > > They should have had enough sense to know that it wasn't going to have > that effect - if you kill off a bunch of sincere fanatics, they get > replaced by people who are even more sincerely fanatical and even > further out of touch with reality (and somewhat disturbed by the sudden > deaths of lots of their colleagues). > > It's a big enough misjudgement that their colleagues should have found > some excuse to get rid of them before they did something even more > foolish, but Trump's cabinet isn't full of people who can think for > themselves and Netanyahu has spent years purging the Israeli cabinet of > anybody brave enough to disagree with him. > > So we've got the US, Israel and Iran run by a bunch of dangerous > lunatics, and Trump and Netanyahu have put an even more deranged bunch > in charge in Iran. > > What we need is a UN mental health force to take them all off to an > international lunatic asylum, and put in a bunch of timid bureaucrats to > tidy up the mess. It isn't going to happen, but we can dream. I have an idea that involves the first settlement on Mars. Probably it would not even take a lot of force in one case, because being first guarantees to be the highest IQ person the planet. Gerhard
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| From | Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-19 12:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10s38tt$6nht$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #895760 |
On 4/19/2026 11:16 AM, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote: > I have an idea that involves the first settlement on Mars. > > Probably it would not even take a lot of force in one case, because > being first guarantees to be the highest IQ person the planet. *And* the STUPIDEST!
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| From | Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-19 12:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <h9baukprq04jgu10v9kq6fc6dpepbhqmm8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #895760 |
On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 20:16:52 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
wrote:
>I have an idea that involves the first settlement on Mars.
>
>Probably it would not even take a lot of force in one case, because
>being first guarantees to be the highest IQ person the planet.
That won't work. IQ is derived from various standardized tests. The
distribution of the test results follows a normal probability
distribution with the mean test result equal to 100. If you deport a
large number of low IQ politicians to Mars, their test scores will
logically shift downward. That causes the distribution curve to shift
downward which in turn causes the mean value (IQ = 100) to also shift
downward. The result will a Martian population of incompetent
politicians, all with a mean IQ = 100.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558
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| From | john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-20 10:40 -0700 |
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 20:16:52 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> wrote: >Am 19.04.26 um 19:49 schrieb Bill Sloman: >> On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: >>> On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>> wrote: >>>>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >>> TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from >>> brain rot. >> >> If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he >> used to be, you've got a problem. >> >> The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown >> with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he >> has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot >> less rat-like cunning to be seen. >> >> We all know what he an Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most >> of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. >> >> They should have had enough sense to know that it wasn't going to have >> that effect - if you kill off a bunch of sincere fanatics, they get >> replaced by people who are even more sincerely fanatical and even >> further out of touch with reality (and somewhat disturbed by the sudden >> deaths of lots of their colleagues). >> >> It's a big enough misjudgement that their colleagues should have found >> some excuse to get rid of them before they did something even more >> foolish, but Trump's cabinet isn't full of people who can think for >> themselves and Netanyahu has spent years purging the Israeli cabinet of >> anybody brave enough to disagree with him. >> >> So we've got the US, Israel and Iran run by a bunch of dangerous >> lunatics, and Trump and Netanyahu have put an even more deranged bunch >> in charge in Iran. >> >> What we need is a UN mental health force to take them all off to an >> international lunatic asylum, and put in a bunch of timid bureaucrats to >> tidy up the mess. It isn't going to happen, but we can dream. > >I have an idea that involves the first settlement on Mars. > >Probably it would not even take a lot of force in one case, because >being first guarantees to be the highest IQ person the planet. > >Gerhard > And probably the first death. John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-04-21 05:08 +1000 |
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On 21/04/2026 3:40 am, john larkin wrote: > On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 20:16:52 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> > wrote: > >> Am 19.04.26 um 19:49 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>> On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: >>>> On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>>> TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from >>>> brain rot. >>> >>> If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he >>> used to be, you've got a problem. >>> >>> The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown >>> with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he >>> has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot >>> less rat-like cunning to be seen. >>> >>> We all know what he and Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most >>> of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. >>> >>> They should have had enough sense to know that it wasn't going to have >>> that effect - if you kill off a bunch of sincere fanatics, they get >>> replaced by people who are even more sincerely fanatical and even >>> further out of touch with reality (and somewhat disturbed by the sudden >>> deaths of lots of their colleagues). >>> >>> It's a big enough misjudgement that Trump and Netanyahu's colleagues should >>> have found some excuse to get rid of them before they did something even >>> more foolish, but Trump's cabinet isn't full of people who can think for >>> themselves and Netanyahu has spent years purging the Israeli cabinet of >>> anybody brave enough to disagree with him. >>> >>> So we've got the US, Israel and Iran run by a bunch of dangerous >>> lunatics, and Trump and Netanyahu have put an even more deranged bunch >>> in charge in Iran. >>> >>> What we need is a UN mental health force to take them all off to an >>> international lunatic asylum, and put in a bunch of timid bureaucrats to >>> tidy up the mess. It isn't going to happen, but we can dream. >> >> I have an idea that involves the first settlement on Mars. >> >> Probably it would not even take a lot of force in one case, because >> being first guarantees to be the highest IQ person the planet. >> > And probably the first death. Trump's ankles are getting puffy - an Australian TV show, Planet America, milks him for comic content, and some American they interviewed pointed this out. Since I now have to wear "flight socks" to combat the same problem, I'm aware that this is just one more symptom of getting old, but he'd be unlikely to last long if he got transferred to Mars as it's first citizen. Of course it would win him a peace prize - his relocation to Mars would make the earth a lot more peaceful. If he took Netanyahu along, that would help even more. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-20 20:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mrqdukh3r04hecenmi6vjngo359bjk4lo1@4ax.com> |
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 05:08:47 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >On 21/04/2026 3:40 am, john larkin wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 20:16:52 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >> wrote: >> >>> Am 19.04.26 um 19:49 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>>> On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> <snip> >>>> >>>>> TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from >>>>> brain rot. >>>> >>>> If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he >>>> used to be, you've got a problem. >>>> >>>> The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown >>>> with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he >>>> has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot >>>> less rat-like cunning to be seen. >>>> >>>> We all know what he and Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most >>>> of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. >>>> >>>> They should have had enough sense to know that it wasn't going to have >>>> that effect - if you kill off a bunch of sincere fanatics, they get >>>> replaced by people who are even more sincerely fanatical and even >>>> further out of touch with reality (and somewhat disturbed by the sudden >>>> deaths of lots of their colleagues). >>>> >>>> It's a big enough misjudgement that Trump and Netanyahu's colleagues should >>>> have found some excuse to get rid of them before they did something even >>>> more foolish, but Trump's cabinet isn't full of people who can think for >>>> themselves and Netanyahu has spent years purging the Israeli cabinet of >>>> anybody brave enough to disagree with him. >>>> >>>> So we've got the US, Israel and Iran run by a bunch of dangerous >>>> lunatics, and Trump and Netanyahu have put an even more deranged bunch >>>> in charge in Iran. >>>> >>>> What we need is a UN mental health force to take them all off to an >>>> international lunatic asylum, and put in a bunch of timid bureaucrats to >>>> tidy up the mess. It isn't going to happen, but we can dream. >>> >>> I have an idea that involves the first settlement on Mars. >>> >>> Probably it would not even take a lot of force in one case, because >>> being first guarantees to be the highest IQ person the planet. >>> >> And probably the first death. > >Trump's ankles are getting puffy - an Australian TV show, Planet >America, milks him for comic content, This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNRtUraLl9s John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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| From | Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> |
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| Date | 2026-04-19 22:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bqbbukpd98q2mgvdplmlb73kkno76e90qd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #895759 |
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: > On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> > > wrote: > >>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: > >>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> > >>> wrote: > > <snip> > > > TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from > > brain rot. > > If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he > used to be, you've got a problem. > > The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown > with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he > has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot > less rat-like cunning to be seen. > > We all know what he an Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most > of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. > > They should have had enough sense to know that it wasn't going to have > that effect - if you kill off a bunch of sincere fanatics, they get > replaced by people who are even more sincerely fanatical and even > further out of touch with reality (and somewhat disturbed by the sudden > deaths of lots of their colleagues). > > It's a big enough misjudgement that their colleagues should have found > some excuse to get rid of them before they did something even more > foolish, but Trump's cabinet isn't full of people who can think for > themselves and Netanyahu has spent years purging the Israeli cabinet of > anybody brave enough to disagree with him. > > So we've got the US, Israel and Iran run by a bunch of dangerous > lunatics, and Trump and Netanyahu have put an even more deranged bunch > in charge in Iran. > > What we need is a UN mental health force to take them all off to an > international lunatic asylum, and put in a bunch of timid bureaucrats to > tidy up the mess. It isn't going to happen, but we can dream. The problem with everyone in the mideast is a deficiency of God's food, pork. We need to do an epic airlift of Spam to Jerusalem and Tehran. That will open their eyes and hearts, and next thing you know they will be making nicey-nice and everything, and like, can't we all just get along. Spam saved Britain's bacon, why not the shithole middle east. Now how much spam can you buy for the price of 1 patriot missile? About 40 or 50 pallets. Minnesota's farmers are standing by.
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| From | Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> |
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| Date | 2026-04-20 09:26 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <10s4kfv$l6bj$1@solani.org> |
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Am 20.04.26 um 07:00 schrieb Jeremiah Jones: > Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >> On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: > > The problem with everyone in the mideast is a deficiency of God's food, > pork. > > We need to do an epic airlift of Spam to Jerusalem and Tehran. That > will open their eyes and hearts, and next thing you know they will be > making nicey-nice and everything, and like, can't we all just get along. > > Spam saved Britain's bacon, why not the shithole middle east. Now how > much spam can you buy for the price of 1 patriot missile? About 40 or 50 > pallets. Eating pork now and then significantly reduces one's risk of spontaneous explosive decomposition amidst large crowds of people. Gerhard
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| From | john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-20 10:42 -0700 |
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 22:00:28 -0700, Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> wrote: >Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >> On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: >> > On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >> > wrote: >> >>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >> >>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >> >>> wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >> > TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from >> > brain rot. >> >> If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he >> used to be, you've got a problem. >> >> The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown >> with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he >> has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot >> less rat-like cunning to be seen. >> >> We all know what he an Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most >> of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. >> >> They should have had enough sense to know that it wasn't going to have >> that effect - if you kill off a bunch of sincere fanatics, they get >> replaced by people who are even more sincerely fanatical and even >> further out of touch with reality (and somewhat disturbed by the sudden >> deaths of lots of their colleagues). >> >> It's a big enough misjudgement that their colleagues should have found >> some excuse to get rid of them before they did something even more >> foolish, but Trump's cabinet isn't full of people who can think for >> themselves and Netanyahu has spent years purging the Israeli cabinet of >> anybody brave enough to disagree with him. >> >> So we've got the US, Israel and Iran run by a bunch of dangerous >> lunatics, and Trump and Netanyahu have put an even more deranged bunch >> in charge in Iran. >> >> What we need is a UN mental health force to take them all off to an >> international lunatic asylum, and put in a bunch of timid bureaucrats to >> tidy up the mess. It isn't going to happen, but we can dream. > > >The problem with everyone in the mideast is a deficiency of God's food, >pork. > >We need to do an epic airlift of Spam to Jerusalem and Tehran. That >will open their eyes and hearts, and next thing you know they will be >making nicey-nice and everything, and like, can't we all just get along. > >Spam saved Britain's bacon, why not the shithole middle east. Now how >much spam can you buy for the price of 1 patriot missile? About 40 or 50 >pallets. > >Minnesota's farmers are standing by. Iran needs hot dogs and beer. John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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| From | john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-20 10:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pmocukts2agpjtq7dnia2e4f7rnlp4fidg@4ax.com> |
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 03:49:46 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >> wrote: >>>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>> wrote: > ><snip> > >> TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from >> brain rot. > >If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he >used to be, you've got a problem. > >The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown >with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he >has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot >less rat-like cunning to be seen. > >We all know what he an Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most >of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. The big point is to keep Iran from nuking Israel and maybe europe, which they would do even if it martyred millions of Iranians in retaliation. Actually, they would welcome that. > >They should have had enough sense to know that it wasn't going to have >that effect - if you kill off a bunch of sincere fanatics, they get >replaced by people who are even more sincerely fanatical and even >further out of touch with reality (and somewhat disturbed by the sudden >deaths of lots of their colleagues). Well, life is chaotic. And it's hard to de-thuggify a government. > >It's a big enough misjudgement that their colleagues should have found >some excuse to get rid of them before they did something even more >foolish, but Trump's cabinet isn't full of people who can think for >themselves and Netanyahu has spent years purging the Israeli cabinet of >anybody brave enough to disagree with him. > >So we've got the US, Israel and Iran run by a bunch of dangerous >lunatics, and Trump and Netanyahu have put an even more deranged bunch >in charge in Iran. > >What we need is a UN mental health force to take them all off to an >international lunatic asylum, and put in a bunch of timid bureaucrats to >tidy up the mess. It isn't going to happen, but we can dream. It's shocking how intensely "progressives" hate Enlightment values, and how intolerant they are. John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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| From | joegwinn@comcast.net |
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| Date | 2026-04-20 14:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <32tcukl5ns91v2rvc12mb7u09uvvajgh4c@4ax.com> |
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 10:37:57 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote: >On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 03:49:46 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >wrote: > >>On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: >>> On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>> wrote: >>>>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >> >><snip> >> >>> TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from >>> brain rot. >> >>If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he >>used to be, you've got a problem. >> >>The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown >>with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he >>has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot >>less rat-like cunning to be seen. >> >>We all know what he an Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most >>of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. > >The big point is to keep Iran from nuking Israel and maybe europe, >which they would do even if it martyred millions of Iranians in >retaliation. Actually, they would welcome that. They? The Theocracy, probably. At least the surviving leaders, if not the rank-and-file ~priesthood. The rest of the Persian population (90 million)? Probably not at all. >>They should have had enough sense to know that it wasn't going to have >>that effect - if you kill off a bunch of sincere fanatics, they get >>replaced by people who are even more sincerely fanatical and even >>further out of touch with reality (and somewhat disturbed by the sudden >>deaths of lots of their colleagues). > >Well, life is chaotic. And it's hard to de-thuggify a government. > >> >>It's a big enough misjudgement that their colleagues should have found >>some excuse to get rid of them before they did something even more >>foolish, but Trump's cabinet isn't full of people who can think for >>themselves and Netanyahu has spent years purging the Israeli cabinet of >>anybody brave enough to disagree with him. >> >>So we've got the US, Israel and Iran run by a bunch of dangerous >>lunatics, and Trump and Netanyahu have put an even more deranged bunch >>in charge in Iran. >> >>What we need is a UN mental health force to take them all off to an >>international lunatic asylum, and put in a bunch of timid bureaucrats to >>tidy up the mess. It isn't going to happen, but we can dream. > >It's shocking how intensely "progressives" hate Enlightment values, >and how intolerant they are. It turns out to be a very old but fundamental issue: .<https://www.wsj.com/opinion/justice-thomas-progressives-vs-the-declaration-50d5aea4?st=exUgVB&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink> Joe
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| From | joegwinn@comcast.net |
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| Date | 2026-04-20 18:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <518dukddig40veqhn77skmfk1a0s2joke4@4ax.com> |
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Follow-up at bottom on how to get the article. On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 14:54:12 -0400, joegwinn@comcast.net wrote: >On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 10:37:57 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >wrote: > >>On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 03:49:46 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>wrote: >> >>>On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: >>>> On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>> TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from >>>> brain rot. >>> >>>If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he >>>used to be, you've got a problem. >>> >>>The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown >>>with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he >>>has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot >>>less rat-like cunning to be seen. >>> >>>We all know what he an Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most >>>of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. >> >>The big point is to keep Iran from nuking Israel and maybe europe, >>which they would do even if it martyred millions of Iranians in >>retaliation. Actually, they would welcome that. > >They? The Theocracy, probably. At least the surviving leaders, if >not the rank-and-file ~priesthood. > >The rest of the Persian population (90 million)? Probably not at all. > > >>>They should have had enough sense to know that it wasn't going to have >>>that effect - if you kill off a bunch of sincere fanatics, they get >>>replaced by people who are even more sincerely fanatical and even >>>further out of touch with reality (and somewhat disturbed by the sudden >>>deaths of lots of their colleagues). >> >>Well, life is chaotic. And it's hard to de-thuggify a government. >> >>> >>>It's a big enough misjudgement that their colleagues should have found >>>some excuse to get rid of them before they did something even more >>>foolish, but Trump's cabinet isn't full of people who can think for >>>themselves and Netanyahu has spent years purging the Israeli cabinet of >>>anybody brave enough to disagree with him. >>> >>>So we've got the US, Israel and Iran run by a bunch of dangerous >>>lunatics, and Trump and Netanyahu have put an even more deranged bunch >>>in charge in Iran. >>> >>>What we need is a UN mental health force to take them all off to an >>>international lunatic asylum, and put in a bunch of timid bureaucrats to >>>tidy up the mess. It isn't going to happen, but we can dream. >> >>It's shocking how intensely "progressives" hate Enlightment values, >>and how intolerant they are. > >It turns out to be a very old but fundamental issue: > >.<https://www.wsj.com/opinion/justice-thomas-progressives-vs-the-declaration-50d5aea4?st=exUgVB&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink> > When you open this link, it looks like a paywall, but on the lower left box, you can Create Your Free Account. Where they will collect an email address and verify that its's real, and try to convince you to subscribe. Which you can ignore. This is the price to avoid the full subscribers-only paywall. Joe
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-21 05:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10s73jr$19dsq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #895784 |
>john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 03:49:46 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >wrote: > >>On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: >>> On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>> wrote: >>>>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >> >><snip> >> >>> TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from >>> brain rot. >> >>If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he >>used to be, you've got a problem. >> >>The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown >>with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he >>has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot >>less rat-like cunning to be seen. >> >>We all know what he an Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most >>of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. > >The big point is to keep Iran from nuking Israel and maybe europe, >which they would do even if it martyred millions of Iranians in >retaliation. Actually, they would welcome that. When is-a-hell attacks and kills negotiaters in Pakistan.. Like they did in other countries It could nuke 3 places in is-a-hell And peace would fill the world. ? For a while at least ;-) Darwin applies. 3 nukes on US weapon and shipping manufacturing places and try learning Russian and Chinese. And do not forget mar-a-lago.
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-04-21 18:40 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <10s7d6m$1bqvp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #895784 |
On 21/04/2026 3:37 am, john larkin wrote: > On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 03:49:46 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> > wrote: > >> On 20/04/2026 12:45 am, john larkin wrote: >>> On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>> wrote: >>>>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >>> TDS is a terrible disease. I don't think one ever fully recovers from >>> brain rot. >> >> If you don't think that Trump is now looking even more deranged that he >> used to be, you've got a problem. >> >> The Australian commentators who used to see Trump as a shallow clown >> with quite a lot of rat-like cunning are now getting more concerned - he >> has started to take his own propaganda seriously, and there's now a lot >> less rat-like cunning to be seen. >> >> We all know what he an Netanyahu hoped to achieve by killing off most >> of the Iranian cabinet - getting the survivors to panic. > > The big point is to keep Iran from nuking Israel and maybe europe, > which they would do even if it martyred millions of Iranians in > retaliation. Actually, they would welcome that. Seems unlikely. The US is the only country that has used nuclear weapons in war, and even they used them on reasonably small cities. The intent is primarily to stop the enemy from attacking you. >> They should have had enough sense to know that it wasn't going to have >> that effect - if you kill off a bunch of sincere fanatics, they get >> replaced by people who are even more sincerely fanatical and even >> further out of touch with reality (and somewhat disturbed by the sudden >> deaths of lots of their colleagues). > > Well, life is chaotic. And it's hard to de-thuggify a government. And the US is going to have quite a big job to do when it comes to cleaning up after Trump. >> It's a big enough misjudgement that their colleagues should have found >> some excuse to get rid of them before they did something even more >> foolish, but Trump's cabinet isn't full of people who can think for >> themselves and Netanyahu has spent years purging the Israeli cabinet of >> anybody brave enough to disagree with him. >> >> So we've got the US, Israel and Iran run by a bunch of dangerous >> lunatics, and Trump and Netanyahu have put an even more deranged bunch >> in charge in Iran. >> >> What we need is a UN mental health force to take them all off to an >> international lunatic asylum, and put in a bunch of timid bureaucrats to >> tidy up the mess. It isn't going to happen, but we can dream. > > It's shocking how intensely "progressives" hate Enlightment values, > and how intolerant they are. John Larkin doesn't know what an "enlightenment value" is - he has claimed that Magna Carta and the Ten Commandments reflect "enlightenment values" though both predate the enlightenment by hundreds of years. Quite how getting rid of a bunch of murderous thugs is supposed to demonstrate a hatred of "enlightennment values" is hard for me to understand, and John Larkin isn't going to bother to explain how. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| Date | 2026-04-19 15:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4q9auk1suuiorjue1elndv3e5mgh4emc55@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #895755 |
On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:32:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote: >>john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote: >>>On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:12:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote: >> >>>From: >>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/04/260417085404.htm >>>Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers >>>Your “magic� sponge might be quietly adding trillions of microplastics to the planet. >>>Date: >>> April 18, 2026 >>>Source: >>> American Chemical Society >>>Summary: >>> That “magic� sponge under your sink may be hiding an environmental downside. While melamine sponges are famous for >>> effortlessly scrubbing away stubborn stains, they slowly break down as you use them—shedding tiny plastic fibers that wash into water >>> systems. Researchers estimate that globally, these sponges could release over a trillion microplastic fibers every month, >>> potentially entering the food chain and affecting wildlife. >> >>There are about 1e31 bacteria on Earth. A few trilion microplastic >>things don't matter. The bacteria will eat them; food chain indeed. > >Not all micro plastics are edible by bacteria? Yes, they are. And melamine can be used as a fertilizer. .<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine> >>I wasn't worried about that big oil spill in the Gulf. The critters >>down there love oil. > >Well, earth (sun) will go in time anyways.. So will we, nothing to worry about. >But I still do not want plastic and oil for dinner... Melamine is widely used for plates and cups and the like. >After watching a Chinese engineer talking about China's deepseek AI being better than the US AI bubbling stuff >I made a deepseek account : >deepseek.com > chose English > >Very nice! >Asked it to create some C code that prints: 'hello world' >No bloat, the right code, nice interaction. >From that Chinese man, who also worked in the US and predicted several previous financial bubbles and now a US AI one; >what he was saying matches my view of US AI going for some bubble too. > >Seems trump now also twists and turns again: > https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/17/anthropic-dario-amodei-trump-mythos.html There is a big debate on this very issue in the US. To get the *whole* story, consult both the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, and compare - each will point out the blind spots, flaws and material omissions of the other. These are by far the two most important newspapers in the US (by circulation). Neither newspaper is fond of Trump. Joe
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