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  Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 21:30 -0500
    Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-12 21:53 -0500
    Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-13 02:59 +0000
      Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 10:31 -0500
        Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-24 18:39 +0000
    Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-10-13 19:16 +0000
      Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 21:34 -0500
        Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 00:41 -0400
          Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 10:13 -0700
    Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 14:06 -0700
      Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 13:50 -0700
    Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 14:55 -0700
      Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-10-24 14:53 -0700
        Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 13:16 -0700
    Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-10-26 14:12 -0700
      Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-10-26 14:15 -0700
      Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-26 22:10 +0000
    Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-10-26 16:22 -0700
      Re: Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-10-26 17:24 -0700

#525948 — Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds

Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds
> http://phys.org/news/2015-10-sea-swallow-miami-orleans.html


> Say goodbye to Miami and New Orleans. No matter what we do to curb
> global warming, these and other beloved US cities will sink below
> rising seas, according to a study Monday.
>
> But making extreme carbon cuts and moving to renewable energy could
> save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the United
> States, said the findings in the October 12 edition of the
> Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US
> journal.
>
> Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce
> our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, the planet will face
> sea level rise of 14-32 feet (4.3–9.9 meters), said lead author Ben
> Strauss, vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate
> Central.


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#525955

On 10/12/2015 9:30 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:

>> http://phys.org/
>





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#525958

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds

Then people had better move before it happens, like the inhabitants
of all those cities that now are at the bottom of the Mediterranean,
spamming shit head.



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#527896

On 10/12/15 9:59 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Then people had better move before it happens, like the inhabitants
> of all those cities that now are at the bottom of the Mediterranean,
> spamming shit head.


   Yes, people will migrate -- at least 1.3 billion of them.

   BTW, jimp--your obsessive compulsive name calling behavior can
   be helped with these classes:
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes


   Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds
 > http://phys.org/news/2015-10-sea-swallow-miami-orleans.html

 > Say goodbye to Miami and New Orleans. No matter what we do to curb
 > global warming, these and other beloved US cities will sink below
 > rising seas, according to a study Monday.
 >
 > But making extreme carbon cuts and moving to renewable energy could
 > save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the United
 > States, said the findings in the October 12 edition of the
 > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US
 > journal.
 >
 > Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce
 > our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, the planet will face
 > sea level rise of 14-32 feet (4.3–9.9 meters), said lead author Ben
 > Strauss, vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate
 > Central.



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#527911

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/12/15 9:59 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Then people had better move before it happens, like the inhabitants
>> of all those cities that now are at the bottom of the Mediterranean,
>> spamming shit head.
> 
> 
>   Yes, people will migrate -- at least 1.3 billion of them.

That is a gross exaggeration spamming shit head.

Have you ever wondered what your life might have been like if you had
the competence to do more than just copy the words of others, spamming
piece of shit?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#526027

In article <YN2dnd469rtf8YHLnZ2dnUU7-RmdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Sam Wormley  <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds

Is this supposed to worry us?

-- Richard

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#526091

On 10/13/15 2:16 PM, Richard Tobin wrote:
> In article <YN2dnd469rtf8YHLnZ2dnUU7-RmdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Sam Wormley  <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds
>
> Is this supposed to worry us?
>
> -- Richard
>

   You can worry if you like -- The article is saying what's likely
   to happen.

> Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-10-sea-swallow-miami-orleans.html
>
>
>> Say goodbye to Miami and New Orleans. No matter what we do to curb
>> global warming, these and other beloved US cities will sink below
>> rising seas, according to a study Monday.
>>
>> But making extreme carbon cuts and moving to renewable energy could
>> save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the United
>> States, said the findings in the October 12 edition of the
>> Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US
>> journal.
>>
>> Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce
>> our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, the planet will face
>> sea level rise of 14-32 feet (4.3–9.9 meters), said lead author Ben
>> Strauss, vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate
>> Central.
>


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#526104

On 10/13/2015 10:34 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 10/13/15 2:16 PM, Richard Tobin wrote:
>> In article <YN2dnd469rtf8YHLnZ2dnUU7-RmdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> Sam Wormley  <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds
>>
>> Is this supposed to worry us?
>>
>> -- Richard
>>
>
>    You can worry if you like -- The article is saying what's likely
>    to happen.
>
>> Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds
>>> http://phys.org/news/2015-10-sea-swallow-miami-orleans.html
>>
>>
>>> Say goodbye to Miami and New Orleans. No matter what we do to curb
>>> global warming, these and other beloved US cities will sink below
>>> rising seas, according to a study Monday.
>>>
>>> But making extreme carbon cuts and moving to renewable energy could
>>> save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the United
>>> States, said the findings in the October 12 edition of the
>>> Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US
>>> journal.
>>>
>>> Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce
>>> our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, the planet will face
>>> sea level rise of 14-32 feet (4.3–9.9 meters), said lead author Ben
>>> Strauss, vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate
>>> Central.

Absolute lies and fraud. Even the most dire measurements of sea level 
rise only show a rise of 3mm or less a year. So taking the largest value 
of 3mm times 85 years yields 25.5 cm (You were a math major, right Sam?) 
  or about a devastating 10 inches of rise! OH MY! Can anyone in New 
Orleans out run that? They are all doomed to getting a foot bath!

You really are a dishonest asshat spammer.



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#526135

What do sea levels and BJ have in common? They both swallow

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#526047

On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 7:30:29 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds
> > http://phys.org/news/2015-10-sea-swallow-miami-orleans.html
> 
> 
> > Say goodbye to Miami and New Orleans. No matter what we do to curb
> > global warming, these and other beloved US cities will sink below
> > rising seas, according to a study Monday.
> >
> > But making extreme carbon cuts and moving to renewable energy could
> > save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the United
> > States, said the findings in the October 12 edition of the
> > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US
> > journal.
> >
> > Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce
> > our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, the planet will face
> > sea level rise of 14-32 feet (4.3-9.9 meters), said lead author Ben
> > Strauss, vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate
> > Central.

  I thought you said that climate scientists spoke in "uncertain" terms because they were real scientists who know that their models are never 100% accurate.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#526172

iconic rise of the world-around ocean

> > > save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the United
> > > States, said the findings in the October 12 edition of the
> > > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US
> > > journal.
> > >
> > > Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce
> > > our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, the planet will face
> > > sea level rise of 14-32 feet (4.3-9.9 meters), said lead author Ben
> > > Strauss, vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate
> > > Central.
> 
>   I thought you said that climate scientists spoke in "uncertain" terms because they were real scientists who know that their models are never 100% accurate.
> 
> 
>   Mark L. Fergerson

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#526054

On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 7:30:29 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds
> > http://phys.org/news/2015-10-sea-swallow-miami-orleans.html
> 
> 
> > Say goodbye to Miami and New Orleans. No matter what we do to curb
> > global warming, these and other beloved US cities will sink below
> > rising seas, according to a study Monday.
> >
> > But making extreme carbon cuts and moving to renewable energy could
> > save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the United
> > States, said the findings in the October 12 edition of the
> > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US
> > journal.
> >
> > Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce
> > our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, the planet will face
> > sea level rise of 14-32 feet (4.3-9.9 meters), said lead author Ben
> > Strauss, vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate
> > Central.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

Venice is under water now and my sailboat is needed every part of the world.Earth is being compressed,but not water is #1 reason,but over the heads of imperial thinkers.TreBert

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#527971

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 2:55:49 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 7:30:29 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds
> > > http://phys.org/news/2015-10-sea-swallow-miami-orleans.html
> > 
> > 
> > > Say goodbye to Miami and New Orleans. No matter what we do to curb
> > > global warming, these and other beloved US cities will sink below
> > > rising seas, according to a study Monday.
> > >
> > > But making extreme carbon cuts and moving to renewable energy could
> > > save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the United
> > > States, said the findings in the October 12 edition of the
> > > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US
> > > journal.
> > >
> > > Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce
> > > our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, the planet will face
> > > sea level rise of 14-32 feet (4.3-9.9 meters), said lead author Ben
> > > Strauss, vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate
> > > Central.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > community, and physics-related social issues.
> 
> Venice is under water now and my sailboat is needed every part of the world.Earth is being compressed,but not water is #1 reason,but over the heads of imperial thinkers.TreBert


I'll bet Venice Beach will be underwater soon too!

Double-A

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#528333

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:53:38 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 2:55:49 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 7:30:29 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds
> > > > http://phys.org/news/2015-10-sea-swallow-miami-orleans.html
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Say goodbye to Miami and New Orleans. No matter what we do to curb
> > > > global warming, these and other beloved US cities will sink below
> > > > rising seas, according to a study Monday.
> > > >
> > > > But making extreme carbon cuts and moving to renewable energy could
> > > > save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the United
> > > > States, said the findings in the October 12 edition of the
> > > > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US
> > > > journal.
> > > >
> > > > Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce
> > > > our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, the planet will face
> > > > sea level rise of 14-32 feet (4.3-9.9 meters), said lead author Ben
> > > > Strauss, vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate
> > > > Central.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > 
> > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > > community, and physics-related social issues.
> > 
> > Venice is under water now and my sailboat is needed every part of the world.Earth is being compressed,but not water is #1 reason,but over the heads of imperial thinkers.TreBert
> 
> 
> I'll bet Venice Beach will be underwater soon too!
> 
> Double-A

Florida was once under water.Its flat and a tidal wave in the next 50 years will cover it.It is flatter than Pluto by a 1,000n feet

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#528350

A sea wall around both downtown Miami and the Brickell condo area might be reasonable. (There's another condo area along Alton Road and along West Avenue out on the barrier island.)

But the geology of Miami and much of Florida is such that the water can just bubble up from the ground. So water would have to be pumped out of the sea-wall area.

The next step is a sea wall along the I95 route but that's a lot of water to pump.


Palm Bay Fl, elevation 19 feet
Vero Beach Fl, elevation 13 feet
Fort Pierce Fl, elevation 16 feet
Stuart Fl, elevation 10 feet
West Palm Beach Fl, elevation 13 feet
Boynton Beach Fl, elevation 9 feet
Boca Raton Fl, elevation 13 feet
Pompano Beach Fl, elevation 13 feet
Fort Lauderdale Fl, elevation 9 feet
Miami Fl, elevation 6 feet
Kendall Fl, elevation 13 feet
Homestead Fl, elevation 3 feet
.

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#528351

> A sea wall around both downtown Miami and the Brickell condo area might be reasonable. (There's another condo area along Alton Road and along West Avenue out on the barrier island.)
> 
> But the geology of Miami and much of Florida is such that the water can just bubble up from the ground. So water would have to be pumped out of the sea-wall area.
> 
> The next step is a sea wall along the I95 route but that's a lot of water to pump.
> 
> 
> Palm Bay Fl, elevation 19 feet
> Vero Beach Fl, elevation 13 feet
> Fort Pierce Fl, elevation 16 feet
> Stuart Fl, elevation 10 feet


Jupiter Fl, elevation 7 feet


> West Palm Beach Fl, elevation 13 feet
> Boynton Beach Fl, elevation 9 feet
> Boca Raton Fl, elevation 13 feet
> Pompano Beach Fl, elevation 13 feet
> Fort Lauderdale Fl, elevation 9 feet
> Miami Fl, elevation 6 feet
> Kendall Fl, elevation 13 feet
> Homestead Fl, elevation 3 feet
> .

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#528368

emptypost@hotmail.com wrote:
> A sea wall around both downtown Miami and the Brickell condo area might be reasonable. (There's another condo area along Alton Road and along West Avenue out on the barrier island.)
> 
> But the geology of Miami and much of Florida is such that the water can just bubble up from the ground. So water would have to be pumped out of the sea-wall area.
> 
> The next step is a sea wall along the I95 route but that's a lot of water to pump.
> 
> 
> Palm Bay Fl, elevation 19 feet
> Vero Beach Fl, elevation 13 feet
> Fort Pierce Fl, elevation 16 feet
> Stuart Fl, elevation 10 feet
> West Palm Beach Fl, elevation 13 feet
> Boynton Beach Fl, elevation 9 feet
> Boca Raton Fl, elevation 13 feet
> Pompano Beach Fl, elevation 13 feet
> Fort Lauderdale Fl, elevation 9 feet
> Miami Fl, elevation 6 feet
> Kendall Fl, elevation 13 feet
> Homestead Fl, elevation 3 feet

Flevoland, Netherlands, -3 meters

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#528387

The geological formation of Miami is that of limestone. I suppose that water can just rise up through the limestone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami

The geological formation of New Orleans is that of clay and peat. The peat can decay when the land is dried out by draining swamps. The decaying peat allows the land to sink between naturally occurring levees.

http://web.mst.edu/~rogersda/levees/Geology%20New%20Orleans-Chapter%203.pdf

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#528392

> The geological formation of Miami is that of limestone. I suppose that water can just rise up through the limestone.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami
> 
> The geological formation of New Orleans is that of clay and peat. The peat can decay when the land is dried out by draining swamps. The decaying peat allows the land to sink between naturally occurring levees.
> 
> http://web.mst.edu/~rogersda/levees/Geology%20New%20Orleans-Chapter%203.pdf


Forgot to mention Florida sinkholes:

https://www.dep.state.fl.us/geology/geologictopics/sinkhole/florida_sinkhole_poster.pdf

Neither Tampa or Orlando look very good here
.

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