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Re: Why colonise Mars?

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edprochak@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 1:31:05 AM UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> wrote:
> []
>> > 
>> > there is no real need to colonize the moon, mars or even have men in 
>> > space.  Only political.
>> 
>> It is more basic then that; the only reason for humans to go to space
>> is ego.
> 
> Actually that is a big factor.

As it is the only reason, yes it is a big factor, i.e. 100%.
 
>> There is nothing on any other body in the solar system that can not
>> be had cheaper on Earth.
>> 
>> There is nothing off the Earth that can not be explored cheaper and
>> more extensively by remote machines.
> 
> Part A: okay, part B I respectfully disagree

If you send humans to Mars they will be using the same equipment to
explore that the machines would be using but only doing it for a 
fraction of the day until their food, water, or air run out. Humans
require time to eat, sleep, and shit.

Machines run 24/7 and can be left on Mars forever without resupply.

If you insist we can even send a machine to hit a golf ball on Mars.

>> It is difficult to find a scenario that would make the Earth a worse
>> place to live than Mars or the Moon.
> 
> Really, How about a simple thermonuclear world war.
> That will ruin our planet pretty thoroughly.

A thermonuclear world war would not blow away all the air and water
from the Earth nor destroy the protective magnetic field. The results
of a major thermonuclear world war would be grim, but nowhere as grim
as Mars is.

>> If some private entity wants to send humans off planet, fine, but it
>> is a waste of public resources for governments to do it with the end
>> of the Cold War, which was the primary reason for going to the Moon.
>> 
> 
> Elon Musk is putting a lot of his own money into his plans for Mars.
> I am less upset about some public funds going to that than I am for
> the trillions wasted in recent wars AFTER the cold war.

Perhaps you can persuade groups like ISIS, FARC, Taliban, Hezbollah,
Boko Haram and Al-Qaeda that they should just get along with everyone else.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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Why colonise Mars? alal65536@gmail.com - 2016-11-21 19:07 -0800
  Re: Why colonise Mars? Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-11-21 22:09 -0600
  Re: Why colonise Mars? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 20:28 -0800
    Re: Why colonise Mars? Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-11-21 22:31 -0600
      Re: Why colonise Mars? edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-21 22:08 -0800
        Re: Why colonise Mars? Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-11-22 22:42 -0600
      Re: Why colonise Mars? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-22 06:17 +0000
        Re: Why colonise Mars? edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-22 10:20 -0800
          Re: Why colonise Mars? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 11:03 -0800
            Re: Why colonise Mars? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-22 19:39 +0000
            Re: Why colonise Mars? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-22 11:58 -0800
          Re: Why colonise Mars? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-22 19:37 +0000
          Re: Why colonise Mars? Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-11-22 22:45 -0600
      Re: Why colonise Mars? alal65536@gmail.com - 2016-11-21 23:21 -0800
        Re: Why colonise Mars? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-22 18:17 +0000
          Re: Why colonise Mars? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 11:06 -0800
          Re: Why colonise Mars? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 13:19 -0800
            Re: Why colonise Mars? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-22 16:12 -0800
            Re: Why colonise Mars? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 12:50 -0800
              Re: Why colonise Mars? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-12-01 13:16 -0800
                Re: Why colonise Mars? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-01 16:15 -0800
                Re: Why colonise Mars? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-04 12:03 -0800
                Re: Why colonise Mars? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-04 12:42 -0800
                Re: Why colonise Mars? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-12-04 13:24 -0800
                Re: Why colonise Mars? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-04 13:42 -0800
              Re: Why colonise Mars? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-01 16:15 -0800
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          Re: Why colonise Mars? edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-22 20:16 -0800
            Re: Why colonise Mars? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-23 05:33 +0000
              Re: Why colonise Mars? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-23 11:20 -0800
  Re: Why colonise Mars? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-11-21 22:03 -0800
    Re: Why colonise Mars? Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-11-28 08:38 -0600
  Re: Why colonise Mars? Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-12-04 23:25 -0600
    Re: Why colonise Mars? Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-12-05 12:48 -0600
      Re: Why colonise Mars? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 13:15 -0800
        Re: Why colonise Mars? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-05 13:38 -0800
        Re: Why colonise Mars? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 10:21 -0800
          Re: Why colonise Mars? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-07 11:13 -0800

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