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Re: How fast are atoms spinning?

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: How fast are atoms spinning?
Date 2019-02-05 16:56 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>That's just the cop out so they can say electrons don't radiate.

Not a cop out. It can be proven that accelerating charges radiate, so anything
involving accelerating charges not radiating needs looking into, with the most
likely outcome being there is no acceleration after all.

>But attophysics shows electrons leaving the atom at  a large fraction of
>lightspeed when perturbed. So figure out then how they can accelerate from 0
>to .3c in 10^-16 seconds, and what energy that would require- idiots

You made two mistakes, John. First is that you are thinking of the electron
classically, as a little ball which has to be accelerated according to
Newton's Laws, not as a quantum object. Secondly, you don't know the difference
between energy and power. If classical mechanics applied (again, it doesn't)
you could argue it takes lots of power to accelerate the electron but little
energy. The amount of energy needed is a high school physics problem and as
Odd pointed out it isn't that much.

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How fast are atoms spinning? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-01 05:03 -0800
  Re: How fast are atoms spinning? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-01 13:48 +0000
    Re: How fast are atoms spinning? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-01 06:31 -0800
      Re: How fast are atoms spinning? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-01 16:25 +0000
    Re: How fast are atoms spinning? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-01 06:38 -0800
      Re: How fast are atoms spinning? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-01 16:33 +0000
    Re: How fast are atoms spinning? poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-01 08:56 -0800
  Re: How fast are atoms spinning? Sergi o <invaliid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-01 09:31 -0600
    Re: How fast are atoms spinning? poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-01 08:57 -0800
      Re: How fast are atoms spinning? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 01:32 -0800
        Re: How fast are atoms spinning? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 13:16 +0000
          Re: How fast are atoms spinning? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 05:36 -0800
            Re: How fast are atoms spinning? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 14:06 +0000
              Re: How fast are atoms spinning? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 07:11 -0800
                Re: How fast are atoms spinning? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-05 17:04 +0000
                Re: How fast are atoms spinning? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 17:29 +0000
                Re: How fast are atoms spinning? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-05 20:40 -0800
            Re: How fast are atoms spinning? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-05 17:00 +0000
        Re: How fast are atoms spinning? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-05 16:56 +0000
        Re: How fast are atoms spinning? poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-02-06 01:02 -0800
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  Re: How fast are atoms spinning? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-07 14:12 -0800
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