Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again

From	benj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again
Date	2019-01-29 04:26 -0500
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On 1/28/2019 8:47 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 1/27/2019 9:27 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/25/2019 8:05 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Odd
>>>>>> “Please note that demanding of me that I explain my position is not an
>>>>>> explanation of your position”
>>>>>> You always demand of others but never comply to their requests. So
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can explain with math. You can’t explain your position ANY way.
>>>>
>>>> Odd you can't explain shit with with. And even if you could math is 100%
>>>> fantasy and means nothing in relation to reality.
>>>
>>> So Maxwells equations have no bearing to reality? What about Newtonian
>>> gravity equations? What about Keller’s laws?
>>
>> No they do not. Equations are created by fantasy. An analog or parallel
>> is ASSUMED with reality, but it's already known that this analog is
>> WRONG, but right enough in some cases to be useful.
> 
> And not being COMPLETELY AND COMPREHENSIVELY right means to you that it has
> no bearing with reality. And you think that something that is useful and
> matches lots of high precision measurements nevertheless has nothing to do
> with reality?

There is no conclusive evidence of that!

> And so you are saying that the business of science is to crank out
> fantasies?

You think so for sure. And there are a few who agree with you.

> Is that really what you want to say? Or are you just pot-stirring?

Of course the business of science is to crank out fantasies! And the 
problem is people like you who want to stop at that point and declare 
the job done!

>> Your idea that
>> somehow fantasy is more real than reality is simply insane.


Fantasy is NOT more real than reality, Odd. Why is that so difficult for 
you to understand? John understands it!!

>>>> You have no reasonable logical explanation (even without details) as to
>>>> what might generate a "pull". Pushes are EASY to theorize. Look at air.
>>>> Molecules bouncing against each other generating pushes. But what could
>>>> possibly generate "pulls"? tiny strings of aether?
>>>
>>> Why do you imagine that material contact is required for all interactions?
>>> Explain that logic.
>>
>> Why do you think contact must be material. How do you define "material"?
>> There is no logical and reasonable way to generate a "pull" without
>> SOMETHING transmitting the force over distance.
> 
> Why does there have to be a force at all?
> How about capturing mechanics in terms of energy and then states migrate to
> configurations of lower configuration energy? What happens to your
> “something transmitting” then? Transmitting what in that formulation?

Why does there have to be reality at all? The entire body of mathematics 
has been created with out any reality! So why should John and I ask you 
to be limited by it? You has so little imagination you can't even 
IMAGINE a non-material object creating a "pull"! In fact you can't even 
imagine how a material object can do it! Let alone discuss any ideas in 
words how this might happen.

>> YOu just make up words,
>> say they are doing the job and call the problem solved. This is called
>> non-thinking, Odd.
>>
>>>> What are those sting
>>>> made of? aetherons? What holds them together? "fields"? And what are
>>>> those "fields" simply fantasy so now you have to theorize that the
>>>> aetheons are held together with even tinier "strings" pulling all of
>>>> them. And the argument goes on and one into nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> Listen to John, Odd, John knows a lot more about this then you do.
>>
>> This statement remains truer than ever.

Statement still true.

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No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 07:42 -0800
  Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 23:27 +0000
    Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 16:51 -0800
      Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 01:05 +0000
        Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 18:07 -0800
          Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-27 14:15 +0000
          Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-27 17:36 +0000
        Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 22:32 -0500
          Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-27 14:27 +0000
            Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-27 09:06 -0800
              Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-27 17:45 +0000
              Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-27 19:06 +0000
            Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-28 19:16 -0500
              Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 01:47 +0000
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 04:26 -0500
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 13:48 +0000
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 13:46 -0500
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 14:27 -0800
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 22:58 +0000
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 21:34 -0800
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 14:30 +0000
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 08:31 -0800
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 17:19 +0000
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 09:24 -0800
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 17:50 +0000
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 14:47 -0500
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 12:48 -0500
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 17:52 +0000
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 14:50 -0500
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-30 15:30 -0800
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-31 03:00 -0800
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-31 18:22 -0800
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-31 18:43 -0800
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-31 20:45 -0800
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-31 21:07 -0800
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-31 21:26 -0800
  Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-26 16:15 -0800
  Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2019-01-27 15:49 -0800
    Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-27 17:03 -0800

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