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Re: Can A Powerful Black Hole Put light in Orbit?

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Can A Powerful Black Hole Put light in Orbit?
Date 2018-12-02 21:53 +0000
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mitchrae3323@gmail.com writes:

>On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 10:10:07 AM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>> >Thomas
>> >"...electrons..."
>> >Are able to exit the atom in 10^-16seconds after being stimulated. How?
>> 
>> You are assuming electrons are little balls that have to be accelerated
>> within a specific time or something.  He just told you, they are quantum
>> objects, not little balls.

>So acceleration creates new light? That violates the principle of
>the conservation of energy...

No, it doesn't. The energy comes from the electron's kinetic energy/whatever
is accelerating the electron.  This is the reason why the Bohr atom model
with the electron going round and round the nucleus fails. The electron
would lose energy and crash into the nucleus.

Sefton has a 3D Bohr non-model (no equations), so it fails for the exact 
same reason.

> and what about deceleration?

It is a form of acceleration. Google bremsstrahlung.

> What does it do?

Energy is emitted as light/photons.
(NOT gravity as Sefton k0okily claims)

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  Re: Can A Powerful Black Hole Put light in Orbit? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-11-27 19:15 -0800
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                Re: Can A Powerful Black Hole Put light in Orbit? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 02:03 +0000
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                Re: Can A Powerful Black Hole Put light in Orbit? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-02 12:52 -0800
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