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Re: How can anything be infinitely small?

From benj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: How can anything be infinitely small?
Date 2018-10-05 17:11 -0400
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On 10/5/2018 12:41 PM, Libor Striz wrote:
> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>> On 10/5/2018 11:02 AM, Libor Striz wrote:
>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>>>> Libor
>>>> “Experiments cannot use highly speculative particles.
>>>> “
>>>> Yes, but declaring there is no more organization smaller than a certain scale just because your visualization tool becomes unusable at that point seems silly. No?
>>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> No? So saying there is nothing smaller than you can see is not silly?
> 
>> I think that is silly.
> 
> Premature response, not considering the below  reasoning.
>>
>>> There is no stating there are none smaller, just that there is no
>>>    evidence there are some smaller.
>>
>> Problem with "physics" to day is they've all gone leftist where fantasy
>> is taken to be reality.
> 
> Predictions fitting observations are not fantasy.

Yes they are!

> Classic quantum chemistry prediction of mercury melting point has
>   error 120 Deg C.
> Relativistic quantum chemistry prediction has error 1 Deg C.
> It is "fantasy becomes true" reality.

No, it is one theory givinb better results than another in a given case.
ALL theory is fantasy.

> 
>> ..... Hence if you can't imagine something then it can't exist,
>> right? To say there is "no evidence" (like say for ESP which has
>> evidence, by the way) therefore it does not exist is standard fare these
>> days in science. but it is not science. It is not even pseudoscience. It
>> is unscience.
> 
> You did not get me.
> Physics  is about verification.
> What cannot be verified lives  in *maybe* or *rather not* world
> and not in *IS* world.

Science is about verification. One cannot talk about that "which cannot 
be verified" because that is saying verification is "impossible" and as 
you should know saying something is "impossible" is the same as saying, 
"I'm a moron".

> 
>>> Silly are things that are claimed true without being verifyable.
>>
>> Depends on what you mean by "true" and what you mean by "verifiable".
> 
> Usual means in context if physics.

But even then, remember that nothing can REALLY be "verified". All is 
limited by the conditions of the 'verification". Some things verify to 
great accuracy. Others not so much. It may be a mistake to judge the 
quality of a theory by the accuracy of it's verification. However, 
theories that predict things that are never verified to any degree are 
obviously highly suspect.

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