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Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics
Date 2018-09-13 17:26 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"I do keep up."
>Well then, you already know this:
>https://www.google.ca/amp/s/phys.org/news/2016-09-spiral-irregular-galaxies-current-dark.amp
>"
>"Galaxy rotation curves have traditionally been explained via an ad hoc 
>hypothesis: that galaxies are surrounded by dark matter," said David 
>Merritt, professor of physics and astronomy at the Rochester Institute of 
>Technology, who was not involved in the research.

Where is your claim that irregular and elliptical galaxies have spirals?
That's what we were talking about. This article is about dark matter.  Do
you have ADHD or something, and just can't follow along?

Regardless, what they are saying that the common model to estimate visible
mass is incorrect and this model gets it correct without the need for dark
matter, as it gets the mass that matches galaxy rotation curves. Not a
problem. Remember what Odd tried to tell you, the mismatch between the
galactic rotation curves and the mass estimates meant one of two things:
1) The model of gravity is wrong at that scale; or 2) Our mass estimate
model for galaxies was wrong, more mass was needed.

Dark matter was because of 2), the mass we saw was not enough. A bunch of
invisible heavy stuff seemed to be needed to match rotation curves.

This article also agrees with 2), but what it says is a DIFFERENT model 
for mass in galaxies produced results that matches rotation curves, and
does so WITHOUT needing any invisible heavy stuff added.  According to
it, dark matter isn't necessary.

That's how real science works, John. A possible better model is found. The
possible better model eliminates the need for dark matter, which was
problematic since we couldn't find it/figure out what it was.  It is
interesting to note that this is a two year old article, and the seeming
lack of followups may indicate this is a false alarm, or maybe not.

Also, if you accept this article, it means you accept standard gravity
theory.  It's good that you finally kicked that silly LeSage gravity.

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The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 00:27 -0700
  Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-10 04:00 -0700
    Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:05 -0700
      Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 17:12 +0000
        Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 10:25 -0700
          Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 17:32 +0000
            Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 11:39 -0700
              Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 19:13 +0000
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                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 21:07 +0000
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                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 02:06 -0700
                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 11:58 +0000
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                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 21:35 +0000
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                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 02:14 +0000
                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 19:38 -0700
                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-12 04:31 +0000
                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 11:02 +0000
                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 06:53 -0700
                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 14:47 +0000
                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 08:22 -0700
                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 16:19 +0000
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