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Re: Space is not empty- just invisible

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Space is not empty- just invisible
Date 2018-07-20 15:56 +0000
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Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ed ed ed
>> “Who convinced you that things don’t need structure? 
>> That’s totally insane!! 

Why is that "totally insane"? You've been asked many times yet you never
answer_why_ that is supposedly "totally insane".

>> Even the slight misplacement of a bolt in your car could crash you. And you”
>> Now Odd’s going to trot out his “just because things with no structure
>> have ever been seen....”
>> 
>> Listen, there’s no hard evidence either way.
>> WHY would you choose the option never seen before?
>> 

>You do EXACTLY the same, hypothesizing precession without an external
>source of torque, which has never been seen before. 

Odd is correct, of course.

Why should anyone consider precessing spinny things with no external
torque, which is an option never seen before?

Why should anyone consider a "turtles all the way down" option, an option
never seen before? Maybe many cultures have something like that as a type
of creation myth, but it has not actually been seen before.

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Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 06:49 -0700
  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:12 +0000
    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 07:20 -0700
      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:22 +0000
        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 07:30 -0700
          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 07:54 -0700
          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 12:19 -0400
            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 16:37 +0000
              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 09:56 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 17:05 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:27 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 22:57 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 19:27 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 01:33 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:54 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 12:54 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 10:47 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 15:23 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-18 22:32 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 11:01 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 09:52 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-20 10:25 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 12:05 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 14:14 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 18:30 -0700
              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 12:58 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:08 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 17:14 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:37 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 17:08 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:17 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 17:26 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:33 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:37 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:44 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:48 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:43 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:42 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 19:14 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 01:33 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 11:23 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 15:34 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-18 18:14 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:16 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:19 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:39 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-18 18:44 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:55 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-18 19:16 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:42 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:06 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:11 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:43 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 19:15 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 01:33 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 11:25 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 15:39 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 14:37 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 22:12 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 16:53 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-20 05:35 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:31 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 22:57 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 19:37 -0400
    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 12:16 -0400
  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-18 15:21 +0000
  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 10:58 -0700
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  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-20 00:16 -0500
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    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 05:50 -0700
      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 07:22 -0700
        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 07:58 -0700
          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 15:21 +0000
            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 08:31 -0700
              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 16:54 +0000
            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-20 15:56 +0000
          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 09:59 -0700
            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 17:53 -0700
              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 13:50 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-21 14:45 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 11:23 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:45 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 12:32 -0400
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 19:30 +0000
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                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:32 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 22:40 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 22:05 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-22 05:11 +0000
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                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 05:35 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 21:43 -0400
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                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 12:48 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 12:41 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 19:58 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 00:23 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:55 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-23 20:39 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 17:25 -0700
              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 13:25 -0700
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                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 20:25 -0700
        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 15:21 +0000
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