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Re: Shooting to the Moon

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Shooting to the Moon
Date 2018-06-19 21:47 +0000
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<numbernumber1964@gmail.com> wrote:
> During the Apollo 11 lander descent from the moon's orbit to the surface
> of the moon, the lander achieves a velocity of 2 km/s then the lander's
> rocket engine is ignited and produces a thrust of 10,000 lb that reduces
> the lander's downward velocity. Near the moon's surface the Lander's
> thrust is reduced to 3,000 lb. At the moon's surface, the lander's rocket
> engine's thrust would result in the formation of an enormous amount of
> rocket smoke yet the lunar descent film does not depict rocket smoke. The
> lack of the moon's atmosphere is used to justify the non-existence of the
> rocket smoke but the production of the rocket smoke is caused by the
> combustion of the Aerozine rocket fuel (kerosene) and the oxidizer (liquid oxygen) 

Why do you continue to shovel crap like this out? The “facts” you cite are
simply incorrect? 

What do you gain by lying?

> which would result in the formation of an enormous amount of rocket smoke
> which is not depicted in the lander descent film. The decent film of the
> lunar lander shows the lander propagating in a horizontal direction that
> would require a thrust in the horizontal direction and a constant center
> of mass of the lander yet the lander would experience an enormous change
> in the center of mass because of the fuel being consumed during the
> landing which would shift the center of mass and render it nearly
> impossible for the horizontal motion of the lander during the descent
> depicted in the lander descent video. The Lunar Landing Research Vehicle
> (LLRV) that propagates in the horizontal direction is used to justify the
> lander propagating in the horizontal direction but the LLRV main engine
> is a jet that would not function on the moon. The descent film depicts
> the Apollo astronauts having a conversation that is being recorded in the
> descent film but the rocket engine would produce an enormous roar which
> would prevent the audio feed of the Apollo astronauts have their
> conversation recorded in the Apollo 11 landing film. The landing and
> ascent of the Apollo 11 astronauts would be a life and death experience
> yet the Apollo descent and ascent lander films do not depict the
> intensity that would be expected in such a dangerous endeavor. The
> photographic images of the Apollo 11 lander does not depict a blast zone
> beneath the exhaust nozzle of the lander caused by the 3,000 lb rocket
> thrust during the final descent. The argument that the 3,000 lb thrust is
> not significant enough to produce a blast zone beneath the lander is used
> to justify the non-existence of the blast zone. Using an analogy, a Lear
> jet engine is rated at 3,500 lb thrust. The 3,000 lb rocket thrust would
> result in a blast zone beneath the Apollo 11 lunar lander yet the Apollo
> 11 photographs (fig 22) show absolutely no disturbance of the fine
> particle matter in the area beneath the lunar lander. In the Apollo 11
> photograph, the shadows of the lunar objects are pointing in different
> directions which suggest that the Apollo 11 photographs were fabricated.
> The variation in the contour of the lunar surface is used to explain the
> multiple directions of the lunar shadows but in an Apollo 11 photograph
> (fig 23), a rock and the lander are separated by the distance of 300
> meter and are forming shadows with an angle of 45o on a near level lunar
> surface which negates the contour surface argument. In another argument,
> the earth's intensity is used to represent a second light source that
> forms the multiple directional  lunar shadows but if the light
> intensities of the Sun and the Earth formed the lunar shadows then each
> lunar object would form two separate shadows yet each of the lunar
> objects is forming a single shadow. No photographs were taken together of
> the stars of the stellar universe and an Apollo 11 astronaut on the surface of the moon. 
> 



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Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 05:20 -0700
  Re: Shooting to the Moon Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-15 08:55 -0400
    Re: Shooting to the Moon Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 08:34 -0700
      Re: Shooting to the Moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-15 13:42 -0500
        Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 14:26 -0700
        Re: Shooting to the Moon benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-15 19:17 -0400
          Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 18:21 -0700
            Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 05:55 -0700
            Re: Shooting to the Moon Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 17:04 -0700
              Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 18:13 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 18:44 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 19:07 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 13:35 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 21:02 +0000
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 10:39 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 15:35 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 21:09 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 10:49 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:18 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 15:05 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 16:57 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-18 16:18 -0500
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 10:40 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 15:20 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 22:40 -0700
      Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 14:29 -0700
        Re: Shooting to the Moon Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-16 11:10 -0400
          Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 15:13 -0700
          Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 19:04 -0700
            Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 20:05 -0700
              Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 21:18 -0700
              Re: Shooting to the Moon Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-17 05:35 -0400
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 03:08 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 06:00 -0700
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-17 13:28 -0400
                Re: Shooting to the Moon Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 16:15 -0700
    Re: Shooting to the Moon benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-15 11:48 -0400
  Re: Shooting to the Moon numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 15:29 -0700
  Re: Shooting to the Moon numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 12:21 -0700
    Re: Shooting to the Moon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 21:47 +0000
  Re: Shooting to the Moon numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 12:29 -0700
  Re: Shooting to the Moon furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 16:03 -0700
  Re: Shooting to the Moon furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 16:03 -0700
  Re: Shooting to the Moon carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 16:05 -0700
  Re: Shooting to the Moon carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 16:06 -0700

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