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Re: music & ai

From Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
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Subject Re: music & ai
Date 2015-08-03 13:21 +0000
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On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 01:40:41 -0400, benj wrote:

> 
> Sure, music. But AI can't communicate with God so the music will be crap.
>

Will it?

In the first place, most current music and art is produced by AI of
the flesh and blood variety.  Ever hear of "Tin Pan Alley?"  It
is merely the designation for a collection of human automatons
that grind out popular music according to preconceived formulas
and templates.  There is no inspired creativity (or "communication
with God" as you call it) happening.  It is all automatic, artificial,
and contrived.

Secondly, some people find fractal art, that is imagery generated
according to certain mathematical algorithms, and even fractal music
to be fascinating and enjoyable.  I, personally, find such patterns, in
spite of a seemingly variegated nature, to be far too regular and predictable
to be of any interest.  In my case, an enlightened insight into the
actual process destroys the experience.

But then an enlightened insight can destroy the beauty of all the
classic music and art that is held in such high esteem by our civilization.

AI generated music (of the machine variety) need not be "crap" to
some listeners.  Indeed, the aleatory, or purely random, movement in music
(e.g. Karlheinz Stockhausen) has a devoted following. 

Let's face the facts.  Art is based in spectacle, and the enjoyment
thereof depends in large part on pure ignorance.

For me, truthfully, the only sounds that can satisfy are pure noise.

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music & ai me <idatarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 02:46 -0700
  Re: music & ai R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-02 10:01 +0000
  Re: music & ai benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 01:40 -0400
    Re: music & ai Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 13:21 +0000
      Re: music & ai noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:34 -0700
        Re: music & ai Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 21:52 +0000

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