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Re: Why the Bohr model failed

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Why the Bohr model failed
Date 2018-04-02 10:52 +0000
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>Dne 31/03/2018 v 19:41 Michael Moroney napsal(a):
>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> It failed quite simply because a circular orbital is two dimensional, and 
>>> an atom is three dimensional.
>> 
>> No, John, the Bohr Model is a failure because an electron going round and
>> round like a planet in its orbit would radiate its energy away, and crash
>> into the nucleus.

>Are you sure you are not confusing it
>with Rutheford's planetary model ?

No. Both the Rutheford and Bohr model show the electrons in circular 
orbits around the nucleus.  Rutheford's model is shown as the classic
"atom" from Atomic whatever logos.  Bohr shows concentric circular orbits
and emphasizes the jumps of energy between them.

Both have the same fault - circular orbits.
John's precessing spinny thing also has a similar fault in a worse way:
trace the path of the electron as it gets all retarded and precesses,
you get a squiggly curve with even more acceleration, and therefore even
more radiation.

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Why the Bohr model failed john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 08:37 -0700
  Re: Why the Bohr model failed moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-31 17:41 +0000
    Re: Why the Bohr model failed Libor 'Poutnik' Stříž <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-03-31 20:08 +0200
      Re: Why the Bohr model failed moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-02 10:52 +0000
        Re: Why the Bohr model failed Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-04-02 14:28 +0200
          Re: Why the Bohr model failed poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-02 09:05 -0700
            Re: Why the Bohr model failed Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-04-02 18:27 +0200
              Re: Why the Bohr model failed poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-02 10:25 -0700
                Re: Why the Bohr model failed poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-03 10:21 -0700
        Re: Why the Bohr model failed poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-02 06:21 -0700
          Re: Why the Bohr model failed poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-02 09:02 -0700
  Re: Why the Bohr model failed Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-03-31 14:32 -0700
    Re: Why the Bohr model failed poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-31 19:57 -0700
      Re: Why the Bohr model failed Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-04-01 13:53 -0700
        Re: Why the Bohr model failed poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-01 22:58 -0700
          Re: Why the Bohr model failed Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 20:36 +0100
            Re: Why the Bohr model failed poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-15 17:51 -0700
            Re: Why the Bohr model failed poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-15 23:32 -0700
              Re: Why the Bohr model failed poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 23:23 -0700

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