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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Physics is beautiful |
| Date | 2017-07-31 10:28 -0500 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <olnibc$1a7d$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | <20abfc56-2309-45f5-8c5a-73a25f79f698@googlegroups.com> |
On 7/31/17 10:13 AM, alal65536@gmail.com wrote: > I recently completed a book by Nobel prize winning physicist Frank Wilczek (spelling?), asking if physics is beautiful. His answer was in the affirmative. He gave two general principles for beauty in physics. Symmetry, and Economy. > > As an artist and leader, I study things for two reasons: to improve my understanding of myself and the world, and to experience pleasure. Understanding comes from truth. Pleasure comes from beauty. > > Unfortunately today, physics has taken a turn for the worse. The ugly lies about quarks seems to dominate many discussions of physics. I am glad I decided to study computer engineering, instead of physics, because physics is full of lies. > > I care about science, including physics, because it leads to devices that improve quality of life, and also gives life meaning. That is why I am so concerned about the decline of physics. We must remove the rot within the system, and cleanse physics. > > The general public is right not to trust scientists. But without science, we are lost. We must hold ourselves to higher standards of truth, and learn to question accepted truth and established scientists. > > Physics can be beautiful. > > Abhinav Lal > Writer & Investor > Wilczek has eloquently talked about the new sensibilities in physics, which leads to a world view that is quite a bit different than what people were taught about physics just a short time ago. Even today, freshmen students are taught that physics is the study of the behavior of material objects, materials themselves, and of energy. There is the grand picture of THINGS meshing and interacting in a passive backdrop of space and time, where those interactions are bound by conservation laws. But today, the emphasis is shifted in a significant way, where the principle players are not the THINGS but the INTERACTIONS themselves, and there is a concept of fields that are distinguished and categorized according to what interactions they participate in. Furthermore, the interactions are determined by fundamental symmetries of the universe, which also in turn are responsible for the observed conservation rules. So things and conservation laws of interactions are now conceptually replaced by interactions and symmetries. And this shift has fundamentally affected the role or in fact the need for the passive backdrop of space and time at all. But you refer to truth, and I ask you simply: What is your bar for truth? Because in science, there is one and only one meter for gauging truth -- test by experiment. If this is not your basis for gauging truth, then you have no truck with science and you may as well part ways forever. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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Physics is beautiful alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-07-31 08:13 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 10:28 -0500
Re: Physics is beautiful James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 13:41 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 13:14 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 14:01 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-08-01 07:30 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 09:27 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful Mushnik <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-02 23:04 -0500
Re: Physics is beautiful Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-07-31 14:10 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-08-01 12:55 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 09:19 -0500
Re: Physics is beautiful alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 18:24 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:13 -0500
Re: Physics is beautiful benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-03 14:57 -0400
Re: Physics is beautiful "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 13:15 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-03 13:39 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 15:30 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 17:49 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 17:56 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 18:23 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 19:42 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 19:46 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 20:06 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 20:29 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful Mushnik <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-02 22:40 -0500
Re: Physics is beautiful pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 20:53 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful Mushnik <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-02 23:02 -0500
Re: Physics is beautiful James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 21:38 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 22:47 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 08:46 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-03 09:45 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 09:54 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:14 -0500
Re: Physics is beautiful benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-03 15:11 -0400
Re: Physics is beautiful Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 19:17 +0000
Re: Physics is beautiful Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:18 -0500
Re: Physics is beautiful "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 15:17 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-02 15:31 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-02 15:39 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-02 20:46 -0400
Re: Physics is beautiful "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 13:08 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-03 16:30 -0400
Re: Physics is beautiful "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-03 13:41 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 13:16 -0700
Re: Physics is beautiful "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-03 13:42 -0700
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