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Re: GPS Again.

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: GPS Again.
Date 2017-06-14 04:06 +0000
Organization The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989
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"HGW..." <hgw@....> writes:

>In the real world, there are no 'relativity effects'.

No, Ralph, your fantasy world without relativity is not "the real world".
The real world has a GPS system that depends on general relativity to
work at all.

>What is that supposed to prove? The use of wave count rather than light 
>speed is clearly a far better way to operate the GPS system.

Ralph, I know that you, as a non-scientist, don't understand error bars
and error analysis at all, but real scientists analyze all potential 
sources of error and come up with an overall error analysis. That's what 
you saw there. Maybe you should learn about error bars/analysis when you
try to learn something about physics.

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Re: GPS Again. Ckeho Baùkora <unukn@owyqar.og> - 2017-05-27 10:37 +0000
  Re: GPS Again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-30 09:57 -0500
    Re: GPS Again. Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-05-30 20:52 +0200
      Re: GPS Again. Ernest Rivers <erwm@weicnne.ac> - 2017-05-30 19:17 +0000
      Re: GPS Again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-30 15:23 -0500
        Re: GPS Again. Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-05-30 22:53 +0200
          Re: GPS Again. Ernest Schwanenflügel <erwm@wanenf.oa> - 2017-05-30 20:59 +0000
            Re: GPS Again. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-05-31 00:42 +0200
          Re: GPS Again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-30 19:03 -0500
            Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-30 21:30 -0500
      Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-30 19:01 -0500
    Re: GPS Again. Ernest Rivers <erwm@weicnne.ac> - 2017-05-30 19:15 +0000
      Re: GPS Again. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-09 11:37 +1000
        Re: GPS Again. Jim Limey <eeug@dnne.ri> - 2017-06-09 14:32 +0000
          Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-09 12:51 -0500
            Re: GPS Again. Kitubu Nkyaku <akntuu@buwkau.kk> - 2017-06-09 18:52 +0000
            Re: GPS Again. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-10 09:23 +1000
            Re: GPS Again. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-10 11:23 +1000
          Re: GPS Again. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-10 11:21 +1000
            Re: GPS Again. Kitubu Nkyaku <akntuu@buwkau.kk> - 2017-06-10 10:42 +0000
              Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-10 19:38 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. Nými Icelulózy <ejienm@wzsfwe.ul> - 2017-06-16 11:30 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-16 10:40 -0500
              Re: GPS Again. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-11 11:11 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-10 21:20 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-11 12:31 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-10 22:40 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-10 23:20 -0500
            Re: GPS Again. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-11 05:14 +1000
              Re: GPS Again. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-10 22:16 +0200
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-11 07:19 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-06-11 22:35 +0200
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-11 15:44 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-11 18:03 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-11 19:00 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-12 11:39 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-12 02:33 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-12 10:15 -0700
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-12 13:40 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-12 14:19 -0700
                Re: GPS Again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-11 22:42 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-11 23:27 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-12 04:47 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-12 08:20 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-12 17:18 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-12 18:15 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-12 22:32 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-12 20:48 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-13 01:52 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-13 19:57 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-14 00:46 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-12 09:58 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. Selina Dieter <uiueeits@wlwtwstd.ci> - 2017-06-12 15:08 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-12 10:37 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-12 17:21 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. Selina Dieter <uiueeits@wlwtwstd.ci> - 2017-06-12 17:40 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-12 18:05 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. Selina Dieter <uiueeits@wlwtwstd.ci> - 2017-06-12 18:19 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-12 19:16 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-12 19:43 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-06-12 12:22 -0700
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-12 20:01 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-12 18:32 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-13 01:54 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-12 22:28 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-13 19:59 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-14 00:48 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-13 21:35 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-14 02:11 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-13 19:50 -0700
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-13 23:53 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-14 05:27 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. Sегg iо <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-14 09:10 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-14 17:10 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-14 21:33 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-14 18:19 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-14 22:33 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-15 17:01 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-15 23:09 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-13 23:49 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-14 05:29 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. Sегg iо <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-13 20:29 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-06-13 12:33 -0700
                Re: GPS Again. Серг ио <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-13 16:39 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-12 18:25 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-12 18:45 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-12 10:35 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-12 11:05 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-11 23:29 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-12 20:12 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:54 +0200
                Re: GPS Again. Selina Dieter <uiueeits@wlwtwstd.ci> - 2017-06-12 12:47 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 04:13 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-13 12:59 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-13 04:22 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-13 13:00 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-13 13:32 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-14 10:09 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-14 09:34 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. Серг ио <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-13 18:42 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-14 12:40 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-14 04:06 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-13 23:01 -0700
                Re: GPS Again. Sегg iо <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-13 23:19 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. Sегg iо <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-13 23:46 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-14 20:07 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. Sегg iо <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-14 09:17 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-17 08:26 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-16 20:40 -0400
                Re: GPS Again. Ecembre Abin <umueuu@eibbwaw.ee> - 2017-06-17 08:05 +0000
                Re: GPS Again. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-17 22:20 +1000
                Re: GPS Again. Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-17 07:58 -0500
                Re: GPS Again. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-14 17:06 -0400
    Re: GPS Again. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-31 09:58 +1000
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