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Re: WW2 From The Jap Perspective

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Harlow Campbell "HVAC" <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8F6b1yn2osI
> Utterly fascinating. But maybe that's just me. After the nukes fell and 
> the emperor went on the radio to "endure the unendurable" there were 
> people who were shined because they thought Japan had been winning
>
hanson wrote:
Harlow, study history some more and you'll find
out, like it says below at the end of this note:
=== "It works the same in any country." ===
>
We here in the US solve the issue of thinking that
we won a war by turning to Hollywood which then
produces glamourous films of American Heros who
fought in the battles of wars that we lost, like Korea, 
Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. 
>
The precursor to war has always been Patriotism
which invariably sweeps Radicals into power who 
have a dictatorial makeup and love to govern & rule 
by edict and fiat! 
History shows that creating Tyrants & Dictators
is far easier then getting rid of them.  
>
Hermann Goering, the Nazi Luftwaffe Reichsmarshall, 
condensed this human condition into the fewest words: 
> 
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering 
shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want 
to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out 
of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?" -- 
> 
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought 
to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have 
to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce 
the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the 
country to danger. It works the same in any country." 
------------
Harlow wrote:
Possibly, but much more difficult to pull off in a country 
where free speech and a free press is codified into the 
Constitution. There is a big difference between rallying the 
populace for war and lying about actual military battles. 
>
hanson wrote:
Harlow, study history some more and you'll find out
that most modern countries since WW2 do have
constitutions that are even more insistent than
ours to have  free speech and a free press... But
those 2 are only wishful declaration an a paper, yet
in reality they go with the wind to gain & have power. 
> 
Harlow wrote:
In a free country, veterans come home and tell their 
stories openly. 
>
hanson wrote:
Obviously, Harlow, you have never been in any other 
country to listen to those veterans there telling their 
stories openly... "It works the same in any country"
>
Harlow wrote:
The USA has great power, but with it comes the responsibility 
to act when forces around the world begin to ruthlessly seek 
to expand their power and violently squash weaker neighbors.

Just as we all have a duty to intervene when the schoolyard 
bully is picking on the weak, America has that same duty 
on a macro scale.
>
hanson wrote:
Your highschool pseudo humanism sounds like a tidbit that 
comes from one of the lackeys at the UN. --- Just look at 
our own (Bush & Clinton) == "Nation Building" == debacles:
All it got us was global hatred, loss of US lives and drainage
of our treasury. .. And those "weaker neighbors" returned 
back to their historic ways, the moment we left with our tail 
between the legs...
>
Harlow wrote:
It's a tough row to hoe... There will always be mistakes. 
There will always be criticism. But we MUST stand for 
those who cannot stand for themselves.  -- Hail Satan!
>
hanson wrote:
What is that "we stand" shit?. Nothing wrong with it as 
long a you limit that notion to your own family's kids, 
and leave the external job to the cops & the judiciary.
>
Now let's look at the basic, fundamental issue at hand 
from YOUR preferred belief and adherence to evolution. 
>
It shows you quite clearly beyond a shadow of doubt 
that 
== War is a natural event & a constant condition that
is needed to preserve and improve the quality of life 
in/by ANY species, Plant or Animal, by/thru the survival
of the fittest.
>
"fittest" does not mean only "strong and bullish" as seen by
the Strategies that evolved, going from "Safety in numbers"
to the plethora of "symbiotic relationships"' to the ancient
human realization that "The meek will inherit the Earth"
>
So, Harlow like you say: "It's a tough row to hoe..."
That's right, and therefore, since you did not ask to be 
born, but are forced to dance to beat of the drummer, 
the good news is that you can tell yourself  that...
>
... it is NOT your fault, which lets you be free of any guilt, 
& lets you be like the driven snow: clean, pure & pristine.

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