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Re: Fastest Light Pulses Show Electrons Are Sluggish

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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>They don't orbit or move at all, hey Sam?
>Cause otherwise it would take energy, hey Sam?
>Schizo science!!

Your mistake, once again, is thinking that the electron orbits the
nucleus like the Earth orbits the sun, with a period of 100 attoseconds,
or whatever that number was that you pulled out of your butt.  Quantum
Mechanics doesn't work like that. A planet orbiting its sun (or a little
ball electron orbiting its bigger ball nucleus) has a definite position
at any point in time, its location in some orbit.  At the same time, it
has a definite momentum, forward along its orbit.  Heisenberg's 
Uncertainty Principle tells us we cannot know the uncertainty to more
than a certain accuracy (hbar).  For something as large as a planet, this
is irrelevant. However, for an electron, if you try to nail down its
position to a certain spot in some orbit, the uncertainty in its momentum,
and therefore energy, will be huge, and you have no idea which way it
is going or how fast, and it will likely have to have more energy than
it needs to escape the atom.  Similarly, if you constrain the momentum
to be smaller than a certain number (so it doesn't have enough energy
to escape), you won't know where the heck it is. Oh, you'll know it
will be nearish the nucleus, this is what gives atoms their size, but
you will have no idea where it is beyond that.

The Bohr model has been dead for over 100 years.  Get with 21st century
science!

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  Re: Fastest Light Pulses Show Electrons Are Sluggish "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 14:25 -0800
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  Re: Fastest Light Pulses Show Electrons Are Sluggish "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 15:00 -0800
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        Re: Fastest Light Pulses Show Electrons Are Sluggish john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 19:47 -0800
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          Re: Fastest Light Pulses Show Electrons Are Sluggish moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-02-05 14:56 +0000
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                Re: Fastest Light Pulses Show Electrons Are Sluggish john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 01:25 -0800
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