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Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups alt.conspiracy, sci.physics
Subject Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics
Date 2015-10-19 14:45 +0000
Organization The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989
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"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:

>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
>news:mvvfl0$8bk$2@pcls7.std.com...
>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>>
>>>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
>>>news:mvoq8s$ck7$3@pcls7.std.com...
>>>>
>>>> And the people rescued by rescuers on the first two days?  Who rescued
>>>> them, if nobody was allowed in to rescue anybody?
>>
>>>ROTFLMAO because there really wasn't much of a rescue operation without
>>>heavy machinery and where was the heavy machinery the first two days after
>>>9/11?  <G>
>>
>> So now you changed your story and said there *was* a rescue operation on
>> the first two days?  Contradicting your earlier kookclaim?  Did you really
>> think they had a bunch of heavy equipment there, waiting to be used,
>> waiting for the planes to slam into the buildings?

<snip diversion>

You didn't deny it, so I guess you now admit that there *was* a rescue 
operation on the first two days after all.  So why did you lie in the
first place?  Were you just repeating something from a kookvid?  If so,
that's even more proof that all kookvids lie!

>>> http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
>>
>> That photo, without the kook scribbling on it, was taken 9/17/2001, likely
>> a little after noon.

>ROTFLMAO because there were no cranes in the photo and do you really think 
>they would move those cranes in and out every night?  I doubt it.

I see at least two cranes, and the photo only shows part of the site.
The original (without kookscribbles) is available at:
http://www.navy.mil/view_image.asp?id=2504 and is dated Sept. 17, 2001,
photographed by U.S. Navy Chief Photographer's Mate Eric J. Tilford.

>Plus in later photos the outside wall of WTC1 is leaning against the remains 
>of WTC6 and that photo still has the outside wall of WTC1 standing on it's 
>own.  So you are a LIAR.

The outside wall of WTC1 *is* leaning against the remains of WTC6, 
kooktard!

>> You kooktards are really a mean and nasty lot, aren't you.  Not only do
>> you deny that the passengers on the jets died that day, you now claim
>> nobody was rescued and that nobody jumped to their death.

>I didn't say that.  I know damn well the people under the vaporization range 
>of a deep underground nuke had to use a rope and a ladder to get out because 
>there was no heavy machinery allowed until the third day after three deep 
>underground nukes were detonated.

Where did they get the ladder, if there were no rescuers?

>And the alleged jumpers that waved first to get the attention of people with 
>video cameras were certainly just part of the Broadway production because 
>their cell phones didn't work.  DUH
>BTW the building that was damaged by the nuke under WTC7 was at "30 West 
>Broadway." so there really was a "Broadway production."

>Now stop for a minute.  Do you really think someone that was going to jump 
>off a building would wave to everybody first?  No that was done just to get 
>the attention of the cameras because their cell phones did not work and then 
>they would disappear and throw something out.  That was SOP for the alleged 
>jumpers that were nothing more than part of the 9/11 psy-op that used 
>nuclear demolitions instead of collapses.

Kooktard, they were *desperate* for getting rescued.  Those poor people 
were being roasted and smoked alive! Those waving were trying to attract
attention so they could be rescued.  Others decided it was better to end
it all less painfully and jumped.  Nobody who was above the North Tower
impact point survived.

You prove my point. You kooktards really are a mean and nasty lot.
Denying the suffering of those in the North Tower to the point where many
jumped, denying the deaths of the airliner passengers etc.  I dare you
cowards to say that to the face of their next of kin.

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Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-05 15:31 -0500
  Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-06 11:32 -0400
    Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-06 13:11 -0400
      Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-06 14:58 -0400
        Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-06 16:16 -0500
    Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 04:09 -0500
  Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Shoe-Chucker 2 <georgewk10@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-06 10:41 -0700
    Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-06 14:59 -0400
      Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-06 15:50 -0400
        Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-06 21:17 +0000
          Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-06 16:50 -0500
          Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-06 18:50 -0400
      Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-06 16:32 -0500
        Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-07 00:31 -0400
          Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 18:11 +1100
            Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-07 05:47 -0400
              Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-07 17:54 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-07 19:15 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-07 19:59 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-07 20:04 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-07 21:17 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-07 22:18 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-08 15:59 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-08 18:03 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-08 20:18 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:18 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-08 23:54 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-09 05:21 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-09 10:31 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-08 17:07 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-08 17:13 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-08 18:18 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-08 20:23 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-08 23:58 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-09 12:54 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-09 09:09 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-10 19:44 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-09 12:31 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-09 09:04 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-09 14:39 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-10 20:13 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-09 19:33 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-09 17:10 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-09 19:54 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 18:36 -0700
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 04:37 -0500
                Re: Debunking DWEEBunkers "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-10 08:01 -0400
                Re: Debunking DWEEBunkers "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 13:34 -0500
                Re: Debunking DWEEBunkers Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-10 20:11 -0400
                Re: Debunking DWEEBunkers "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 04:06 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-10 15:41 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 13:35 -0500
                HOH versus OCO noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 16:38 -0700
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-10 20:14 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-11 03:56 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-10 23:07 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-11 01:49 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 04:14 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-11 13:28 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-13 15:21 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-13 17:03 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 09:34 +1100
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-15 02:52 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-10-14 04:28 +0200
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-15 02:50 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 04:30 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-15 02:50 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 03:55 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-15 09:54 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-15 09:59 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-15 18:11 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-16 17:51 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-18 06:36 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-18 06:45 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-18 14:07 +0100
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-19 15:15 +0000
                p.m is cOOl noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 15:17 -0700
                Re: p.m is cOOl noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 19:24 -0700
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-17 18:17 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-18 06:53 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-18 07:11 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-18 14:07 +0100
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 10:37 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-18 11:27 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-18 14:54 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-18 20:21 +0100
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-19 14:45 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 10:37 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-10-15 20:18 +0200
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 03:46 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-15 14:34 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-16 23:52 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-17 01:56 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-17 05:53 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-17 09:55 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-17 17:15 +0100
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-17 12:22 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-17 13:16 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 10:36 -0700
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 14:29 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 04:00 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-17 06:05 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-17 10:56 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-17 17:21 +0100
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-17 14:47 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-17 15:07 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-17 21:03 +0100
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-17 16:16 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-17 23:19 +0100
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-17 18:20 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:43 -0700
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-13 21:18 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-15 02:54 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 13:52 -0700
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-10 19:45 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:43 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-09 00:01 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-09 05:28 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 04:39 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-09 08:42 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 04:37 -0500
            Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-07 17:13 -0400
              Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 10:25 +1100
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-07 23:02 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 14:51 +1100
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-08 10:52 -0400
          Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-07 17:12 -0400
            Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-07 20:05 -0400
              Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-07 21:13 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-08 09:02 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-08 10:57 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-08 17:08 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-09 08:46 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-09 10:30 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-09 12:29 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-09 13:48 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-09 16:27 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:18 -0500
            Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-07 20:40 -0400
              Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-07 20:43 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-07 21:16 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-10-07 22:23 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-08 03:02 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 14:54 +1100
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-08 04:58 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-08 10:54 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-08 16:55 +0000
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-09 10:30 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 04:37 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-10 11:44 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 13:35 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-11 10:20 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-08 09:32 -0500
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-10-08 17:07 -0400
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 20:28 -0700
                Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-08 15:38 -0500
    Re: Debunking Popular Mechanics "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 04:09 -0500
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