Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

From	Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
Newsgroups	alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Date	2015-06-17 19:27 +0000
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On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:48:00 -0500, Christopher A. Lee wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 00:12:13 +0200, "Malte Runz"
> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
> 
>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>news:deo0oa9qjit0va3du8eobrouc8sb23fkko@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:48:59 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>> >news:f5qrna1pptlcpdp0oinj114p8p2tjf6ufq@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >(snip)
>>> >
>>> >> When, oh when, will you losers try to support your unfounded
>>> >> profession that there is NO God.
>>> >
>>> >I seriously doubt that you can find anybody who'll claim that they
>>> >/know/
>>> >there is no God.
>>>
>>> That's what I've been saying all along. ...
>>
>>So have atheists. It's only theists like you who claim, that atheists
>>say they /know/ God doesn't exist.
> 
> Both of these rest on Liarboi Puke's baseless presumption which means
> nothing outside his religion.
>  
>>> ... That takes knowledge that no man possesses. ...
>>
>>And so does knowing that God does exist.
> 
> He doesn't know - he only believes it as part of his childhood religious
> brainwashing.
> 
> And like the vast majority of theists, he is too stupid to understand
> that outside his religion, it is merely somebody else's religious
> belief.
> 
>>> ... Hence, with no evidence, the best you guys can say is that you
>>> don't believe, like in you don't believe the evidence that is
>>> available to us all.
> 
> WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE WAS THE PROVEN SERIAL LIAR LYING ABOUT?
> 
>>Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do.
>>
>>
>>> >Personally, I settle for a 99,99999% certainty that it is so. I
>>> >/believe/ that God doesn't exist.
>>>
>>> Finally, you are an agnostic.  There's no such thing as a legitimate
>>> atheist.
> 
> *L*I*A*R*
> 
>>An atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in gods. I'm one of them, and
>>I promise you I'm as legit as it gets.
> 
> We all are.
> 
> But it's Catholic doctrine that everybody "really" believes.
> 
> And Liarboi Puke is so brainwashed he believes the lies, libel and
> slander his church tells its followers about us.
>  
>>> >Not because I have hard, physical evidence to back up my belief, but
>>> >because you have nothing to back up yours. And you're the one making
>>> >the positive claim. An outrageous one as well, so I can sit back and
>>> >wait for you to provide the evidence and see if it is sufficient to
>>> >make me change my mind.
>>> >I can't make any promises, though, and as you already know, the Bible
>>> >and 'Tales of the Sacred Whispers in the Heart' have never convinced
>>> >me, and never will. So, if that is all you've got, I'll just have to
>>> >crank it up a
>>> >notch to 99,999996 % certainty.
>>> >
>>> >This is how it'll play itself out. We, as a species, are approaching
>>> >100%
>>> >certainty asymptotically, and at some point it becomes absurd to
>>> >still harbour beliefs in gods. But don't worry, you won't live to see
>>> >it. You're destined to remain deluded for the rest of your life.
>>>
>>> You too.
> 
> Liar.
> 
>>Have you ever been abroad? To my neck of the woods? Religion is as good
>>as gone in all aspects of society. I'm already living the virtual 100%.
>>'Whispering spirits' won't impress any of us.
> 
> The US is pretty much the only developed country which is so religious,
> with the possible exception of Ireland and Poland.

And Ireland is fast becoming secular.

> It's not for nothing that Ratzinger used newbies Poland to try and get
> the EU to "acknowledge its Christian heritage" in the draft EU
> constitution, which ended up being abandoned because or the
> Vatican-directed fighting.
> 
> This of course, went down like a lead balloon among both the secular
> countries and  the (nominally) Protestant ones.

And would have put an end to Turkey's bid to become a member.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-14 15:49 -0500
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-15 07:06 -0400
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-15 08:56 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-15 13:58 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-15 21:43 +0000
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-15 23:48 +0200
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-16 12:52 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 14:36 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 00:05 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 19:20 +0000
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:15 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 21:33 +0000
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:00 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-19 19:37 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 07:17 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:16 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:15 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 00:12 +0200
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-16 18:48 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 19:27 +0000
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-17 14:33 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-17 23:41 +0200
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-17 23:00 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mattb. <Trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 23:03 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-18 02:35 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:02 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-18 11:23 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-22 12:35 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-06-22 09:56 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:17 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 19:28 +0200
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-18 06:12 +1000
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 22:36 +0200
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-17 15:42 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-18 22:43 +1000
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:21 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-19 20:10 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:39 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 06:57 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:24 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-21 09:14 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 14:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-22 09:27 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:56 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-24 08:50 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-23 20:20 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-24 03:11 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:14 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-25 07:55 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-25 13:37 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-26 08:50 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-26 17:14 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-27 08:21 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-27 11:50 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-24 19:27 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-24 14:32 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-23 22:06 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 05:12 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 12:15 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-25 05:55 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:15 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:12 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-25 07:58 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-25 13:38 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-26 08:51 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-26 17:15 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:15 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-19 19:31 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:27 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-20 20:16 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 14:59 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 21:59 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:57 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 13:55 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:30 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 17:05 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:00 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-22 19:38 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-24 08:54 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-23 22:07 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:17 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-22 21:57 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:59 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:14 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-19 20:13 +1000
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-19 06:31 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:42 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:41 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 07:03 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:33 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-21 09:18 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:00 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 22:02 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 17:00 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-24 19:31 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-25 13:41 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-25 21:13 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-26 17:17 -0500
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-27 20:04 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 09:27 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-28 19:55 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 17:09 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 14:01 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:36 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:23 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 21:30 +0000
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:24 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-19 19:25 +0000
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