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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

From talishi <talishi@example.net>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Date 2015-06-03 19:04 -0700
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duke wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:32:50 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>
>> >duke wrote:
>>> >>Existence mandates creation.
>> >
>> >Then either your God doesn't exist, or your God was created, or you are
>> >lying.
> None of the three.  We just don't know of God's origin.

Your claim is that existence mandates creation.  Either that is true, or 
it is false.   If it is false, then you lied.

If your claim is true, then God's existence mandates his creation.  So 
if God was not created, then he does not exist.

If God does exist, then he was created.

Those are the only three possible options.

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-02 18:32 -0700
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 10:49 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 19:04 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:47 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:50 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:45 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 07:15 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-05 20:45 +0200
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:50 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 12:46 +0200
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-06 07:01 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 14:01 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:49 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 23:19 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:52 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:28 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:49 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:53 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:29 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:14 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:05 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 14:56 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:36 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 12:10 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:00 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-10 18:56 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:48 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-12 04:19 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-12 20:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-12 19:46 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 04:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-13 13:37 +0100
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:04 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:21 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 20:50 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 03:44 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 05:29 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-13 12:25 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 07:11 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:54 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:22 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:08 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 21:31 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:47 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:20 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:09 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 21:32 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 05:14 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 09:07 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-14 07:49 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 22:40 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:17 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-13 10:42 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-10 12:16 +0100
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:01 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 10:56 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:13 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:49 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:45 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:24 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 22:50 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 14:55 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:23 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-08 20:01 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 21:47 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 18:56 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-08 21:11 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-08 22:18 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 06:44 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-09 10:32 +0100
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:42 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:05 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:04 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 18:56 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:51 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:52 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:18 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-11 11:12 +0100
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:55 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:54 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:29 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 22:59 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-12 04:17 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:30 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-13 10:40 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 23:03 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:51 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:54 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:59 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 23:29 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 19:07 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:48 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-08 00:16 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:27 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-09 02:50 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 14:59 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 12:24 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:15 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 19:31 +0200
                "duke" is imprisoned in a bible, unable to escape. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-10 10:39 -0700
                Re: "duke" is imprisoned in a bible, unable to escape. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 17:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:24 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:58 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:50 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-06 06:20 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:51 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> - 2015-06-06 12:55 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:30 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:55 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:31 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:25 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 01:20 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 05:01 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 07:22 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 07:40 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 20:04 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:28 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:29 +0000
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:57 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:32 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 08:54 -0700
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