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Re: Positrons

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, sci.math
Subject Re: Positrons
Date 2025-07-09 07:27 +0200
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Am Dienstag000008, 08.07.2025 um 22:00 schrieb Aether Regained:
> Bertietaylor:> On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 19:43:23 +0000, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>
>>> Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> wrote or quoted:
>>> |                                                              The
>>> |evidence for the positron is a lot stronger than the evidence for say
>>> |quarks.
>>
>> There is plenty of evidence for Harry Potter and his broomstick.
> 
> Physical evidence is of course primary, and the evidence from cloud
> chamber tracks (under magnetic fields) is solid.
> 
> Still I like this philosophical argument probably due to Dirac or
> Feynman (paraphrased):
> 
> It is extremely remarkable that the electron and the proton are so
> unlike each other, and yet have EXACTLY EQUAL (and opposite) charge. The
> positron on the other hand, having the same mass as the electron, is not
> as much of a miracle as the proton. It would not be very surprising if
> the exactly equal charge of the proton is really derived from an
> embedded positron.
> 
My own guess about the relation between electron and proton goes like this:

'electron' denotes the far end of a standing 'rotation wave' and 
'proton' this inner turning point.

What we call 'charge' is therefore kind of a wave and an atom the entire 
wave, which has certain characteristic points.

These points get certain names and we treat them as real, lasting, 
material objects.

But that is actually wrong and we should regard particles as certain 
timelike stable structures.

See here:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing



TH

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Re: Positrons bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-07-06 04:27 +0000
  Re: Positrons Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-08 20:00 +0000
    Re: Positrons nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-08 23:35 +0200
      Re: Positrons William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-07-08 18:45 -0400
        Re: Positrons nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-10 23:08 +0200
    Re: Positrons Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-09 07:27 +0200
      Re: Positrons Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-09 19:24 +0000
        Re: Positrons Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-10 09:34 +0200
      Re: Positrons bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 22:47 +0000
        Re: Positrons Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 18:19 -0700
        Re: Positrons "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-23 15:39 +0200
        Re: Positrons Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-18 16:28 +0100
    Re: Positrons Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-09 07:27 +0200
    Re: Positrons bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-07-10 23:29 +0000
  Re: Positrons bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 13:19 +0000
    Re: Positrons Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 07:26 -0700
      Re: Positrons bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 07:40 +0000
        Re: Positrons Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-21 05:54 -0700

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