Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, talk.politics.guns, alt.checkmate
Subject	Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real
Date	2019-03-05 07:18 -0700
Message-ID	<ge7epeFdd06U3@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 3/5/19 3:08 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 3/4/2019 11:04 PM, SergIo wrote:
>> On 3/4/2019 3:34 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 3/4/2019 1:27 PM, Nadegda wrote:
>>>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, 
>>>> melt!
>>>> On Mon, 04 Mar 2019 10:40:25 -0500, Stinky Ggugglgz Hell,  Fleabitten
>>>> Nazi
>>>> Rapist gguggled:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/3/2019 7:43 PM, stinky puddles piddled:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Capitalism is a dog-eat-dog system where those with abilities thrive
>>>>>>> and where those who attempt to leech of the abilities of others
>>>>>>> starve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then the system we have now, where all those billionaires leeching 
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> the abilities of the working class are living the high life, must
>>>>>> not be
>>>>>> capitalism.
>>>>>
>>>>> Billionaires don't leech off the system. Billionaires get that way
>>>>> because they provide goods and services the public wants and needs.
>>>>
>>>> Poppycock. When was the last time *you* saw a billionaire providing a
>>>> good
>>>> or a service, rather than sleeping or playing golf while receiving a
>>>> passive income? The most they do in the way of "work", if I may use 
>>>> that
>>>> term loosely, is paper-pushing in an office somewhere. They might, 
>>>> in so
>>>> doing, be providing a service internally inside the business but 
>>>> they are
>>>> not providing a good or a service to "the public", contrary to your
>>>> claim.
>>>>
>>>>> They create lots of jobs.
>>>>
>>>> No, *demand* for goods and services creates jobs. Businessmen are just
>>>> the
>>>> middlemen connecting demand (consumers) and supply (labor, and the
>>>> machines they use as force-multipliers).
>>>>
>>>>> Only an idiot liberal actually believes that rich
>>>>> people get that way on the backs of poor people.
>>>>
>>>> Only an idiot conservative actually believes that rich people get that
>>>> way
>>>> by being blessed by the money fairy or finding a leprechaun's pot of 
>>>> gold
>>>> *instead* of by exploiting loopholes in the market's rules for fair
>>>> compensation to obtain large passive rentier incomes without lifting a
>>>> finger to perform any actual labor.
>>>>
>>>> And only an idiot conservative fails to realize that even if one *did*
>>>> somehow get rich from some leprechaun, the inflationary effect when 
>>>> they
>>>> spent all that money would act as a stealth tax on everyone else,
>>>> effectively transferring a few pennies from everyone using the same
>>>> currency to the newly-rich person: still a robbery of the 99%, just a
>>>> sneakier and more subtle one.
>>>
>>> Marx and Engels would be proud of you.
>>
>> so they like really dumb people ?
>> Nads is spewing like a full blown stoner
> 
> So did Marx and Engels.
> 

Socialism 101

REAL SOCIALISM: The government owns most major industries and there is 
little if any private property. This system allows for little personal 
freedom and is closely aligned with Authoritarianism (rule by authority).

CORPORATE "SOCIALISM": The government works largely for the benefit of 
wealthy corporations and the rich. Most major industries are privately 
owned (Capitalism), but their costs and risks are heavily subsidized 
through lower taxes, direct government subsidies, leniency by the 
justice system, and more. With Corporate Socialism the wealthy become 
even wealthier at the expense of the lower classes, and the split 
between productivity and financial gain is weakened.  This system is 
closely aligned with Plutocracy (rule by the wealthy).

DEMOCRATIC "SOCIALISM": This government works largely for the citizens 
as a whole, investing in infrastructure and the people. Most major 
industries are privately owned (Capitalism), but they get few government 
handouts and are generally held accountable for their own risks and 
costs. With this system the middle class does better, poverty decreases, 
and the environment suffers less harm. This system is closely aligned 
with Democracy (rule of the people).


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2019-03-03 06:48 +0200
  Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-03 10:11 -0500
    Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-03 20:09 +0000
      Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-03 16:01 -0500
        Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real SergIo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-03-03 15:57 -0600
        Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-03 23:53 +0000
          Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-03 19:43 -0500
            Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 17:50 -0700
              Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-03 19:56 -0500
            Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-03-03 18:53 -0700
            Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2019-03-04 05:49 +0200
              Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-04 10:40 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 10:01 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-04 12:11 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 09:28 -0800
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-04 12:36 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 10:46 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-04 20:28 +0000
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 13:31 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 17:58 -0800
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-04 21:12 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 18:27 -0800
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-04 21:51 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-04 20:27 +0000
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 13:30 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-04 15:53 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 13:59 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2019-03-05 06:04 +0200
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 22:20 -0800
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-05 10:09 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real SergIo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-03-05 00:00 -0600
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-03-05 05:29 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> - 2019-03-04 14:34 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real SergIo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-03-05 00:04 -0600
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> - 2019-03-05 03:08 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-03-05 07:18 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2019-03-04 15:31 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 15:53 -0700
            Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real SergIo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-03-04 10:34 -0600
      Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 14:55 -0700
        Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-03 17:08 -0500
          Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 15:14 -0700
            Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-03 17:23 -0500
              Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 15:28 -0700
  Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 10:33 -0800
    Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 11:38 -0700
      Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 13:17 -0800
    Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-03 20:10 +0000
      Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 13:26 -0800
        Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2019-03-03 16:41 -0500
          Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-03 16:57 -0500
            Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real SergIo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-03-03 16:03 -0600
            Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-03-03 15:19 -0700
              Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-03 23:59 +0000
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-03 19:49 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-03-03 18:54 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-03-03 18:51 -0700
            Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2019-03-03 17:35 -0500
              Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 15:38 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2019-03-03 18:08 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 16:12 -0700
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                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 17:16 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2019-03-04 01:09 +0000
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 18:12 -0700
        Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-03 23:55 +0000
          Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 20:11 -0800
            Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-04 04:28 +0000
              Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 22:46 -0800
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2019-03-04 09:21 +0200
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 23:29 -0800
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-04 20:29 +0000
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 13:33 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 18:00 -0800
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2019-03-05 06:06 +0200
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 22:19 -0800
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-05 21:37 +0000
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-03-05 17:24 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-05 22:41 +0000
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-05 18:06 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-05 15:38 -0800
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real SergIo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-03-05 22:11 -0600
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-06 05:18 +0000
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-05 23:03 -0800
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-03-06 15:18 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-06 13:22 -0700
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-03-06 15:15 -0500
                Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-03-05 15:36 -0800
      Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 14:57 -0700
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    Re: Trump border emergency is fake and climate crisis is real Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2019-03-04 00:01 +0000
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