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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics, talk.politics.guns, alt.checkmate |
| Subject | Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. |
| Date | 2018-11-21 15:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <g5m3sgF91drU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 11/21/18 3:08 PM, benj wrote: > On 11/21/2018 11:24 AM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 11:09:11 -0500, kensi >> <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote: >> >>> You now have permission to freak out: >>> >>> https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2018/10/un-says-climate-genocide-coming-but-its-worse-than-that.html >>> >> >> A big steaming pile of speculation with not one iota of proof >> followed by this: >> >> ". . .proposing the imposition of a carbon tax many, many >> times higher than those currently in use or being considered >> - they propose raising the cost of a ton of carbon possibly >> as high $5,000 by 2030, a price they suggest may have to >> grow to $27,000 per ton by 2100. Today, the average price >> of carbon across 42 major economies is just $8 per ton." >> >> These idiots a proposing a tax on carbon at an upper rate >> of almost 3,000 percent. >> >> Lunacy, total lunacy! Teh kensitard is a lunatic. >> > Don't you love it when "kensi" and all the other climate nutjobs keep > screaming how much "worse" it is than anybody thought, and then every > model after model, prediction after prediction, and "tipping point" > after "tipping" point is predicted and then passes without ever proving > true. Such as? If anything the predictions have UNDERESTIMATED the harm. https://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-models-intermediate.htm ----- There are two major questions in climate modeling - can they accurately reproduce the past (hindcasting) and can they successfully predict the future? To answer the first question, here is a summary of the IPCC model results of surface temperature from the 1800s - both with and without man-made forcings. All the models are unable to predict recent warming without taking rising CO2 levels into account. Nobody has created a general circulation model that can explain climate's behavior over the past century without CO2 warming ... A common misconception is that climate models are biased towards exaggerating the effects from CO2. It bears mentioning that uncertainty can go either way. In fact, in a climate system with net positive feedback, uncertainty is skewed more towards a stronger climate response (Roe 2007). For this reason, many of the IPCC predictions have subsequently been shown to underestimate the climate response. Satellite and tide-gauge measurements show that sea level rise is accelerating faster than IPCC predictions. The average rate of rise for 1993-2008 as measured from satellite is 3.4 millimetres per year while the IPCC Third Assessment Report (TAR) projected a best estimate of 1.9 millimetres per year for the same period. Observations are tracking along the upper range of IPCC sea level projections. ... Similarly, summertime melting of Arctic sea-ice has accelerated far beyond the expectations of climate models. The area of sea-ice melt during 2007-2009 was about 40% greater than the average prediction from IPCC AR4 climate models. The thickness of Arctic sea ice has also been on a steady decline over the last several decades. ----- Links to research on that page. > And yet they keep forging ahead with more and more predictions of > doom Which I presume will continue until Democrats take house, senate > and white House and the gigantic energy tax is passed and we can all > breathe a sigh of relief that we've all been "saved". Funny how being > "saved" by those with the loudest mouths always seems to cost a ton of > money? Why do you turn from science and go to politics? The science is NOT political. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 11:09 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 11:24 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 11:44 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:40 -0800
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. Its Actually Worse Than That. Bob Robertson <bobrobertsontsy66@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 11:49 -0600
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-11-21 10:50 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 10:34 -0800
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-21 13:57 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 11:59 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-21 14:25 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 12:28 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-22 10:55 -0600
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-21 13:17 -0600
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 12:22 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-21 14:40 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 16:07 -0800
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2018-11-21 17:09 -0800
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-22 10:53 -0600
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-11-21 21:28 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 17:08 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 17:11 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 15:16 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 17:21 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 15:44 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 18:26 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 16:29 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 18:47 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 17:02 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 19:12 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 17:14 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 19:19 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 17:26 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 19:40 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. "Fly Tape" <fly@tape.invalid> - 2018-11-21 19:12 -0600
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 20:20 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Wader of Doom) - 2018-11-22 01:27 +0000
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. "Fly Tape" <fly@tape.invalid> - 2018-11-21 21:41 -0600
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 06:45 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-22 09:34 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 07:38 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 06:44 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-22 16:16 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 06:43 -0700
In which Gleggrg the Ghastly Gargling Ghoul again confesses to illegally defiling the waterways with his filth Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-11-22 01:32 +0000
Re: In which Gleggrg the Ghastly Gargling Ghoul again confesses to illegally defiling the waterways with his filth "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 20:37 -0500
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Re: In which Gleggrg the Ghastly Gargling Ghoul again confesses to illegally defiling the waterways with his filth Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-11-22 06:16 +0000
Re: In which Gleggrg the Ghastly Gargling Ghoul again confesses to illegally defiling the waterways with his filth Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 22:02 -0800
Re: In which Gleggrg the Ghastly Gargling Ghoul again confesses to illegally defiling the waterways with his filth Libtard <libtard@sandernistas.edu> - 2018-11-22 06:15 +0000
Re: In which Gleggrg the Ghastly Gargling Ghoul again confesses to illegally defiling the waterways with his filth "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-22 10:26 -0500
Re: In which Gleggrg the Ghastly Gargling Ghoul again confesses to illegally defiling the waterways with his filth Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 08:54 -0800
Re: In which Gleggrg the Ghastly Gargling Ghoul again confesses to illegally defiling the waterways with his filth "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-22 16:19 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 21:58 -0800
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 21:57 -0800
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 16:04 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 16:09 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 18:28 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 16:31 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 18:50 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 16:52 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 19:03 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 17:14 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-21 20:50 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 16:42 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-11-21 15:49 -0800
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 16:58 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-11-21 16:16 -0800
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 17:21 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-11-21 16:28 -0800
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-11-22 01:35 +0000
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 06:37 -0500
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Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-22 11:04 -0600
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 18:59 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 17:01 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ï) - 2018-11-22 00:16 +0000
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 18:57 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 17:05 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-22 00:08 +0000
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-21 23:57 +0000
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 17:04 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-22 00:57 +0000
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 22:13 -0800
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-21 19:06 -0500
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 17:09 -0700
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Wader of Doom) - 2018-11-22 00:57 +0000
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It's Actually Worse Than That. pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2018-11-24 17:33 -0600
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It?s Actually Worse Than That. Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 21:56 -0800
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Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. Its Actually Worse Than That. Bob Robertson <bobrobertsontsy66@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 11:48 -0600
Re: UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That. Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-11-22 00:24 +0000
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