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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, alt.checkmate |
| Subject | Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. |
| Date | 2018-05-25 09:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fmqqgiF573mU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <Jeff-Relf.Me@May.24--9.38am.Seattle.2018> <fmo8lpFrssgU1@mid.individual.net> <FFGNC.94514$pK.42422@fx13.iad> <201ggdt1ut48j0o2cmr7n2s9dhjtoboq3v@4ax.com> <1YVNC.202684$1e7.26617@fx38.iad> |
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On 5/25/18 8:27 AM, benj wrote: > On 5/25/2018 8:55 AM, chrisv wrote: >> benj wrote: >> >>> I can tell you why Rolf focuses on Norway (snip lies) >> >> I can tell you why right-wing propagandists focus on Cuba and North >> Korea. They hope to fool those who are too stupid to differentiate >> between socialism and communist dictatorship. > > You mean like YOU are tying to fool those too stupid to see that > socialism and communism are in essence the same thing. YOu hope by word > games to spin a large fantasy that minor details make all the difference. First: they are not the same thing. Second: there is essentially NOBODY in the USA pushing for true Socialism. There are people pushing for a Social Democracy. Three: If you use the common usage of "socialism", the right wing pushes for a LOT more than does the left... they just push to have the costs and risks of the rich "socialized". Look at Walmart and McDonald's -- they have much of their labor costs "socialized". Look at the costs of using ancient stores of carbon... much of that is "socialized". >> They lie that communst dictatorships are "socialist"utopias". They >> lie that socialism means "handing property and responsibilities over >> to an all-knowing government that will decide what is best for you." >> They want people to forget that there is a middle-ground, democratic >> socialism. > > Lefties have ALWAYS sold their collective schemes as "Utopias", > "worker's paradises" and the "answer" to world evil. And now Chrisv > pretends that they never said it! It's funny! There is no perfect system... but a social democracy would be clearly better than the oligarchy the US now lives under. > Again he makes the argument that A is not B because there are some minor > differences in degree here and there as if that changed the basic > structure. It does not. if you are giving part of your authority over > your own life, your work power, and your possessions to someone else > (government) to redistribute among the group as THEY see fit then > clearly you have given away a portion of your freedom over your own > life. Usually that sort of thing is called slavery. We live in a society. As such we are taxed. There is no real "other" way in ANY modern, high tech culture. You can play victim and say this means you are a slave, but that is just silly. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-24 09:38 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 09:47 -0700
Michael Glasser's Marxism/Feminism. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-24 10:19 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 18:04 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 15:13 -0700
Feminists suck on the BoobTube. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-24 20:28 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-24 18:28 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 15:45 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 07:39 -0500
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 07:55 -0500
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 09:17 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 08:57 -0500
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 11:13 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 12:15 -0500
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 16:49 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:23 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 18:17 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-26 07:43 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-27 12:36 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 09:44 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-27 14:14 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-29 07:12 -0500
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-26 11:38 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 08:45 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-27 12:36 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 09:44 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-27 13:55 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-30 15:03 -0500
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-30 13:30 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-31 13:24 -0500
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 11:32 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 16:43 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:24 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:29 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 11:27 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:04 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 12:21 -0500
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 20:18 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Ser Gregor Clegane <sergregor@lannistermail.raven> - 2018-05-25 16:12 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 18:02 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 15:30 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-27 12:36 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 09:44 -0700
Kids are the domain of the poor, uneducated and unfortunate. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-26 01:45 -0700
Re: Kids are the domain of the poor, uneducated and unfortunate. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-26 11:32 -0400
Re: Kids are the domain of the poor, uneducated and unfortunate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 08:43 -0700
Re: Kids are the domain of the poor, uneducated and unfortunate. Bricked <bricked@barkingspiders.com> - 2018-05-26 13:51 -0500
Re: Kids are the domain of the poor, uneducated and unfortunate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 11:58 -0700
They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-26 16:51 -0700
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 16:55 -0700
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-26 20:40 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 17:41 -0700
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-26 21:16 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 18:30 -0700
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-29 07:35 -0500
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-29 17:36 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-30 07:39 -0500
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-30 10:40 -0700
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 15:06 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-30 14:50 -0500
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-31 08:29 -0500
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 10:02 -0700
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-30 13:29 -0700
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-26 20:50 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-27 09:05 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 06:57 -0700
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-27 11:44 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-27 12:15 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 09:17 -0700
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-27 12:33 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-27 13:52 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 11:02 -0700
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-27 14:24 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-28 08:13 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-28 09:49 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-29 07:51 -0500
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-28 14:49 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-28 16:14 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-29 07:29 -0500
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-29 17:40 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 15:01 +0200
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-30 09:14 -0400
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-30 07:57 -0500
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 05:59 +0200
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-29 07:23 -0500
Re: They'd tax your penis, if they weren't so busy taxing your breath. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-29 07:57 -0700
Re: Kids are the domain of the poor, uneducated and unfortunate. Ser Gregor Clegane <sergregor@lannistermail.raven> - 2018-05-27 12:36 -0400
Re: Kids are the domain of the poor, uneducated and unfortunate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 09:43 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-26 11:35 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 08:45 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-27 12:36 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-27 13:54 -0400
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 11:01 -0700
Re: Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jack Ma, the top earners, are men. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-31 21:34 +0000
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