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Re: Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states?

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Mike Duffy wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Jul 2016 18:09:46 +0000, 7 wrote:
> 
>> Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states?
>> 
>> I'm beginning to doubt this idea of particles popping in and out
>> of existence.
>> 
>> The theory is sound and measurable, but the mechanism is not believable.
> 
> Bingo! Move to the head of the class. This is the essense of QM.
> 
> 
>> Instead it is far more believable to say the particles exist already
>> and are merely swapping states to become visible to the detector.
> 
> OK. Add this to the list of 50 or so 'interpretations' of QM. It's just as
> tenable.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretations_of_quantum_mechanics

Hmm... interesting.
The Copenhagen interpretation is the most most popular.

But it sounds like this idea was devised in an era absent of computers.

Information cannot be created or destroyed but Copenhagen
is blasé about that :)

Its heavily reliant on creating and destroying information but
hiding it all in probabilistic maths.

If objects already exist and changes change to cause the popping in
and popping out effect, then it is more testable,
because it may be possible to change the rate at which states change
by introducing a strong field into a portion of space that
changes the rate of change of state.

If probability was ruling this space, then it should be unaffected.


>> Likewise, it would be more easier to say particles are not popping in
>> and out existence - they already exist, may be in another dimension,
>> and merely swapping states to become visible and then reverting back
>> to its original state without invoking creation and destruction ideas.
> 
> Ditto. In fact, several elements of your explanations can be found in
> several of the ones listed at the a/n wiki entry. Read them all.
> 
> I like the 'transactional' interpretation, except that it implies
> predestined determinism. The math seems okay, but I really don't like the
> idea that we have no free will.
> 

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Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states? 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-07-02 18:09 +0000
  Re: Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states? Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-07-02 13:36 -0400
    Re: Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states? 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-07-02 18:57 +0000
      Re: Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states? Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-07-02 17:18 -0400
        Re: Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states? 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-07-04 20:47 +0000
      Re: Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:44 -0700
  Re: Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:27 -0700
  Re: Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 15:49 -0700
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      Re: Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-04 15:31 +1000
    Re: Particles popping in and out of existence or switching states? 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-07-04 20:52 +0000
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