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Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE
Date 2016-01-16 14:04 +1100
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On 15/01/2016 5:13 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 6:25:51 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE
>>> http://www.theweatherprediction.com/habyhints/260/
>>
>>> The amount of water vapor in the air also effects the density. Water
>>> vapor is a relatively light gas when compared to diatomic Oxygen and
>>> diatomic Nitrogen. Thus, when water vapor increases, the amount of
>>> Oxygen and Nitrogen decrease per unit volume and thus density
>>> decreases because mass is decreasing.
>>>
>>> The two most abundant elements in the troposphere are Oxygen and
>>> Nitrogen. Oxygen has an 16 atomic unit mass while Nitrogen has a 14
>>> atomic units mass. Since both these elements are diatomic in the
>>> troposphere (O2 and N2), the atomic mass of diatomic Oxygen is 32 and
>>> the diatomic mass of Nitrogen is 28.
>>
>>
>>     Some people's "Heavy Air Theory" is a complete sham.
>
> The devil is in the details of what they are not telling you:
> 1) Earth's atmosphere is too cool for steam

It's not too cool for water vapour, though, as is evidenced by the fact 
that wet clothes turn into dry clothes without the application of heat.

> 2) Their models assume steam

No they don't.

> 3) The livelihood of many, both in meteorology and climatology, depend on the public not realizing #1 and #2
>

The public probably do realise (1), but it's not relevant. They don't 
realise (2) because it's not true. (3) seems a non sequitur.

Sylvia.

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WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 20:25 -0600
  Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 22:13 -0800
    Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-16 14:04 +1100
      Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 19:13 -0800
        Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-16 14:29 +1100
          Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 19:40 -0800
            Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-16 16:02 +1100
              Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 21:20 -0800
                Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 10:51 -0800
                Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 15:44 -0800
                Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 08:50 -0800
                Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-23 11:46 -0600
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  WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 10:53 -0800
  Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 16:43 -0800
    Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-16 14:05 +1100
      Re: WHY IS MOIST AIR LESS DENSE THAN DRY AIR AT SAME TEMPERATURE HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 03:55 -0800

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