Re: Wrench Physics Question

From	dvus <dven1@adelphia.net>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Wrench Physics Question
Date	2015-11-01 07:53 -0500
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On 10/30/2015 10:25 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:10:00 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm going to guess you spent a lot of time in the closet as a child.
>> What was the infraction that earned that punishment?
>>
>
> I was the child of wealth and privilege.  I was given fine toys in abundance.
>
> But I, and my childhood associates, willingly abandoned such luxuries
> in favor of the constructions within our own minds.
>
> A pinch of imagination beats hours of craftsmanship any day.

Yes, note that youngsters will often play with the box that toys come in 
rather than the toy itself. The box can be so many wonderful things in 
the fertile mind of a child.

As to the angled wrench question, I can say that it's intuitively 
preferable to use it so that the angle of offset is opposite to the 
direction of desired rotation of the nut or bolt. In all my years of 
using wrenches I never thought to discover exactly why that was, I was 
usually too busy with the job at hand, it just felt "right" to use it 
that way. Very unscientific reasoning, to be sure, but I bet most 
mechanics would agree.

It's true that the particulars of the layout of the job can preclude 
using the wrench that way, things blocking the swing of the wrench 
handle being the most common. Flipping the wrench over repeatedly is 
often the only way to get the job done.

Interestingly, I've had situations where I've had to use a combination 
wrench (box on one end, open on the other) and switch back and forth 
from one end to the other to get a nut or bolt to turn in a particularly 
tight situation. Turns out the box end puts the wrench handle at an 
angle half way between the two possible angles offered by flipping the 
open end. At least that's the case with the quality tools I've used over 
the years, I don't know if the Chinese or Taiwanese tools are made that way.

-- 
dvus

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Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 06:47 +0000
  Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 08:09 -0500
    Re: Wrench Physics Question Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 08:50 -0500
      Re: Wrench Physics Question jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-30 17:10 +0000
        Re: Wrench Physics Question gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-30 20:54 -0500
        Re: Wrench Physics Question Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 21:35 -0500
    Re: Wrench Physics Question jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-30 17:08 +0000
    Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 17:23 +0000
      Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 12:44 -0500
        Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 17:58 +0000
        Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 18:08 +0000
          Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 15:37 -0500
            Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 20:42 +0000
              Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 15:51 -0500
        Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 18:14 +0000
          Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 15:40 -0500
            Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 21:13 +0000
              Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 16:29 -0500
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 21:59 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 17:15 -0500
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 22:31 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 21:09 -0500
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-31 02:22 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-30 20:27 -0700
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-31 04:23 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-31 07:16 -0700
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 15:27 -0600
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-01 23:16 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 08:58 -0600
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-02 20:00 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 14:27 -0600
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-02 20:52 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 16:35 -0600
              Re: Wrench Physics Question jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-30 21:33 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 21:19 -0500
                Re: Wrench Physics Question jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-31 02:58 +0000
  Re: Wrench Physics Question "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 12:41 -0700
    Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 19:56 +0000
      Re: Wrench Physics Question jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-30 20:21 +0000
        Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 20:39 +0000
          Re: Wrench Physics Question jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-30 21:13 +0000
      Re: Wrench Physics Question Tom P <werotizy@freent.dd> - 2015-10-31 22:40 +0100
    Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 20:25 +0000
      Re: Wrench Physics Question jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-30 20:40 +0000
        Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 21:04 +0000
          Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 16:23 -0500
            Re: Wrench Physics Question noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 14:27 -0700
              Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-30 22:28 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 21:10 -0500
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-31 02:25 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-30 20:45 -0700
                Re: Wrench Physics Question dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-01 07:53 -0500
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-02 01:09 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 09:19 -0600
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-02 19:43 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 14:16 -0600
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-02 20:30 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 16:29 -0600
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-02 23:05 +0000
                Re: Wrench Physics Question benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 22:23 -0500
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 07:04 -0600
                Re: Wrench Physics Question benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 13:31 -0500
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 15:02 -0600
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 13:38 -0800
                Re: Wrench Physics Question "Hipple the infallible" <invalad@example.com> - 2015-11-03 17:56 -0800
                Re: Wrench Physics Question benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 02:26 -0500
                Re: Wrench Physics Question Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 08:53 -0800
                Re: Wrench Physics Question benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 03:11 -0500
            Re: Wrench Physics Question Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 15:56 -0700
          Re: Wrench Physics Question jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-30 21:38 +0000
      Re: Wrench Physics Question "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 22:27 -0800
  Re: Wrench Physics Question xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-30 17:55 -0700
    Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-31 01:33 +0000
      Re: Wrench Physics Question xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-30 20:34 -0700
    Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-31 02:05 +0000
      Re: Wrench Physics Question xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-30 20:37 -0700
  Re: Wrench Physics Question xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-30 18:00 -0700
  Re: Wrench Physics Question xxein1@att.net - 2015-10-30 18:03 -0700
    Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-10-31 01:24 +0000
  Re: Wrench Physics Question Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 18:44 -0500
    Re: Wrench Physics Question Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 19:35 -0500
    Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-01 01:33 +0000
      Re: Wrench Physics Question benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 23:21 -0400
        Re: Wrench Physics Question "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 04:35 -0800
    Re: Wrench Physics Question Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-01 23:01 +0000

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