Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.tv
Subject	Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics
Date	2015-09-29 03:20 +0200
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Am 21.09.2015 00:51, schrieb J. Clarke:

>>>> There's one other crucial difference between the Soviet experience and
>>>> the American one: the vast majority of people in the Gulags were not
>>>> guilty of anything that any reasonable person would call a crime. The
>>>> vast majority of people in the US prison system are actually guilty of
>>>> serious crimes like murder, rape, etc.
>>>
>>> No, the majority are guilty of drug-related offenses.  Rape and murder
>>> are definitely not even close to a majority.
>>>
>> Drug-related offenses like importing kilos of hard drugs. Please don't
>> pretend these are college kids who got sentenced to lengthy terms for
>> smoking a joint at a party.
>>
>> I get that some people want to legalize ALL drug use, which would
>> eliminate drug crime too, but I submit that such a position would not
>> get very much public support.  Realistically, marijuana possession for
>> small quantities might plausibly come to pass in the not-too-distant
>> future but I think drug trafficking for heroin, cocaine, etc. is likely
>> to stay a crime for the forseeable future.
>
> Do look at the numbers.
>
> As for the rest, the "war on drugs" isn't working even a tiny bit better
> than the "war on alcohol" in the late '20s and early '30s.  The only
> difference is that in the '30s they had the good sense to recognize that
> it was making things worse instead of better and repeal the laws that
> were causing the problem.
>

To reduce the drug related problems you need to 'take the money out'.

Drugs are a huge business and they will remain a problem, as long as 
there is a related business.

So people should think about means, to make drug-trade less profitable.

One possibility is to make addiction itself legal (like consumption). 
It's not really allowed, but not prosecuted and instead treated, if 
possible.

This would reduce the number of related 'criminals' by a large part and 
leave only the dealers in focus.

But it's actually possible, to push down the price further, if 
replacement drugs are given to addicts for free. Or even the 'real 
thing' could be sold for moderate prices and under safe condition (to 
proven addicts only, of course).

This would also reduce the health risks of the general public, since 
less diseases among addicts are also less threats by such diseases.

This would then reduce (greatly) the risk to become victim of a crime 
and that would be a great advantage of such policy.

And last but not least: prisons are VERY expensive and keeping people 
looked away in large numbers will eventually reduce the budget for other 
purposes (like -say- education, pavements or powerlines).


TH

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