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Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer.

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer.
Date 2015-09-24 22:19 +0200
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Am 24.09.2015 17:01, schrieb Jimmie Wynne:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>
>>> Real life "spacetime" cannot possibly causate Gravity. Only Matter can
>>> perform the task. This particularly according to the Divergent Matter
>>> Model (DMM).
>>
>> Soacetime is related to gravity, since matter 'likes' to stay together.
>
> Completely void of relevance.
>
>> This we see in all sort of things, since a thing is a thing, if it stays
>> as it is.
>
> ..Matter is total different from empty space.

if you take matter away from space, you get a vacuum.

But actually what is space?

Usually we call 'space' the set of points, we see remote and empty. So a 
distant star is separated from Earth by a lot of (mostly) empty space.

Since this space is predominantly empty, we have only the coordinates of 
these points. And the set of all possible coordinates we call 'space'.

These coordinates are usually ordered n-tupels with n= 3 and three 
numbers of the type length.

Other coordinates are polar coordinates of two angles and one distance.

The distance is measured in run-length of light, e.g. in light-years.

Now light is (in relativity terms) 'light-like', while mass/matter is 
timelike.

The opposite of timelike is spacelike.

But space is NOT spacelike (even if this sound that way), since we use 
light to measure distance (hence space).

But what actually is 'spacelike' then?

If we had a connection into that realm, this would look like a static 
field, since such a connection would have no time-component. And that is 
what 'static' means.

Now we could do a trick and let a wave oscillate from timelike to 
spacelike (and back).

How would that look like?

It would be a tiny mass, surrounded by a spherical shell of a static 
field.  That spherical shell is more or less the same wave, but of 
opposite sign. And it has no mass (since mass is timelike).

how does this look like?

Well, actually the description seems to fit to an atom.

TH

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