Re: green stars

From	Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid>
Newsgroups	rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics
Subject	Re: green stars
Date	2015-10-03 23:49 -0300
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I figured it out when I wondered why I never see electric stove
burners glowing read.

Start with a burner that's merely warm.  You can feel the infra-red
radiation coming off it, but the coils are black.

As the burner heats, it gives off more infra red, but the peak of the
spectrum its giving off shifts blueward, so it also gives off a little
red.  But it's very little red, and you'd have to be thoroughly
dark-adapted to see it.

As it heats further, it give off more infra-red, and more red, but
when the peak is in the red, there is a lot of orange and yellow and
green and blue in the sloping tail, just as there is a lot of
infra-red in the other sloping tail.  

Even though the peak is in the red, there's enough higher-frequency
light that you don't see a pure-red red.

Get it a little hotter and the peak goes higher and shifts a little
more, and you see a definite orange.  

We've pulled a safety device off somewhere, and this being a gedanken
experiment, the coils won't melt as the burner keeps heating and the
peak emission gets higher and bluer.  

As the light gets brighter and the peak moves into the yellow area,
the light gets paler as well as yellower, and once it's pure yellow,
it just gets paler.  And when the peak hits green, we get pure white
light, because green is right in the middle, and there is as much
long-wave radiation below it as there is short-wave radiation above
it.

Which makes me wonder why plants reject green light instead of using
it.

Still hotter, and the light starts to take on a pale blue cast.  If
it's possible for something to get hot enough to appear pure blue, I
don't want to be in the same solar system with it, and I'm not sure I
want to be in the same galaxy.

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green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-02 01:17 -0700
  Re: green stars Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 08:19 -0500
    Re: green stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 06:30 -0700
      Re: green stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 08:59 -0500
        Re: green stars benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 12:24 -0400
          Re: green stars HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 10:19 -0700
        Re: green stars Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-03 12:14 +0200
  Re: green stars Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2015-10-02 14:40 -0400
    Re: green stars djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-02 22:18 +0000
      Re: green stars Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 17:45 -0500
        Re: green stars Angelo <patrizio.pan-2002@libero.it> - 2015-10-05 08:30 -0700
      Re: green stars Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 16:02 -0700
        Re: green stars djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-03 02:29 +0000
          Re: green stars Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 22:29 -0700
          Re: green stars Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-10-03 23:49 -0300
            Re: green stars "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2015-10-04 08:48 +0100
              Re: green stars Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 11:07 -0500
                Re: green stars "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-04 12:50 -0400
                Re: green stars Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 10:54 -0700
                Re: green stars "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 13:21 -0400
                Re: green stars Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-04 11:15 -0600
                Re: green stars Stumpy <perilmung@spamnet.con> - 2015-10-05 13:39 -0700
            Re: green stars "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-10-04 09:27 -0400
            Re: green stars William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 16:45 -0400
        Re: green stars Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2015-10-03 17:40 -0400
          Re: green stars Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 14:51 -0700
          Re: green stars djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-03 21:54 +0000
            Re: green stars Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 17:24 -0700
            Re: green stars wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-04 06:46 -0400
              Re: green stars djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-04 13:15 +0000
                Re: green stars jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-04 14:27 +0000
                Re: green stars djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-04 16:53 +0000
                Re: green stars jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-05 13:02 +0000
                Re: green stars djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-05 14:39 +0000
                Re: green stars jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-06 13:34 +0000
                Re: green stars djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-06 14:24 +0000
                Re: green stars jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-07 13:18 +0000
                Re: green stars Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2015-10-07 19:27 -0400
                Re: green stars "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-07 19:43 -0400
                Re: green stars Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-08 01:58 -0600
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-08 01:11 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-08 13:49 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-08 21:20 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-09 22:04 -0700
                Re: green stars wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-08 08:19 -0400
                Re: green stars pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-10-08 08:59 -0700
                Re: green stars Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-09 00:10 -0600
                Re: green stars William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 13:19 -0400
                Re: green stars wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-09 21:27 -0400
                Re: green stars Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-10-10 20:12 -0600
                Re: green stars Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 19:08 -0500
                Re: green stars Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-10-05 17:20 -0700
                Re: green stars djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-06 01:09 +0000
                Re: green stars "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 22:21 -0400
                Re: green stars djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-06 02:33 +0000
                Re: green stars "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 23:03 -0400
                Re: green stars Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-10-05 22:03 -0700
                Re: green stars Wayne Brown <fwbrown@bellsouth.net> - 2015-10-08 19:38 +0000
                Re: green stars djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-08 22:19 +0000
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-08 16:14 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-08 16:16 -0700
                Re: green stars pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-10-08 17:33 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-08 19:33 -0700
                Re: green stars pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-10-08 19:59 -0700
                Re: green stars "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:36 -0400
                Re: green stars djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-10-09 04:19 +0000
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-09 11:12 -0700
                Re: green stars scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 14:05 +0000
                Re: green stars "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 18:57 -0400
                Re: green stars jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-06 13:34 +0000
                Re: green stars Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 10:57 -0700
              Re: green stars "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-10-04 10:41 -0400
                Re: green stars wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-04 13:43 -0400
      Re: green stars wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-02 22:38 -0400
      Re: green stars Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2015-10-03 17:37 -0400
        Re: green stars Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 14:52 -0700
        Re: green stars Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 17:36 -0500
          Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-05 01:39 -0700
            Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-05 01:55 -0700
        Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-05 01:17 -0700
          Re: green stars Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2015-10-05 14:04 -0400
            Re: green stars Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 13:07 -0500
            Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-05 12:58 -0700
              Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-05 23:52 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-06 10:24 -0700
                Re: green stars pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-10-06 11:39 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-06 12:35 -0700
                Re: green stars pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-10-06 13:20 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-06 15:15 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-06 15:31 -0700
                Re: green stars pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-10-06 15:58 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-06 23:12 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-06 23:34 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-07 00:49 -0700
                Re: green stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-08 21:24 -0700
  Re: green stars "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 13:26 -0700
    Re: green stars "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 09:58 -0700
  Re: green stars Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 07:53 -0500

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