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Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth

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Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XSudnX-0F_-bfrv3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com: 

> On 06/08/2026 08:30 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> On 06/08/2026 05:24 AM, phoenix wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth
>>>>>>> -aerospace-engineer-did-math/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's very simple..
>>>>>>> you pop in, you pop out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or, you pop out, you pop in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, you are a golden retriever...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did the universe get in here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It popped in!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, I'm talking to a dog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Start with a simple definition:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   in
>>>>>>> /in/
>>>>>>> preposition
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      expressing the situation of something that is or appears to
>>>>>>>      be 
>>>>>>> enclosed or surrounded by something else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g.,
>>>>>>> “in the house”).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, ...' of course.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, how do you pop out from in?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dog sez: "roof, roof!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> roof, roof!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   "How did you get here?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The alien would say..."I can give you the math."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"
>>>>>
>>>>> "How did you get here?"
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean, it's very simple...
>>>>>
>>>>> you pop out
>>>>> walk a couple of blocks
>>>>> pop in
>>>>> and you are now at the other side of the universe!
>>>>>
>>>>> you 'bypass' the stupid speed of light and time.
>>>>
>>>> Albert Einstein figured out how to 'bypass' his own speed of light...
>>>>
>>>> "spooky action at a distance."
>>>>
>>>> In 'science gargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on
>>>> other masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new
>>>> location of the displaced mass.'
>>>>
>>>> In other words... make a rocketship invisible and transport it to
>>>> another place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> pop out
>>>> pop in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> most of yous arrived on earth either by popping out or popping in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think it's time for some of yous to ...pop the fuck out of here!
>>>>
>>>> to a spooky place...
>>>
>>> Why do scientists rationally believe that 'folding space' is what's
>>> going to happen? Why not 'throwing monkeys in a furnace' or 'putting
>>> potatoes on a shelf' or 'paving the universe with asphalt?'
>>>
>>> Why is 'folding space' the ridiculous, abstract, non-sequitur science
>>> of choice, science du jour?
>>>
>>> It's still ridiculous science fiction. Give me a break.
>>>
>>
>> Well, first of all, you'd need a reasoning why information can go
>> any faster than the speed of light.
>>
>> It's not an un-usual idea that gravity's speed is infinite, with
>> the idea that three objects in a row can send information to a
>> third object in the middle, which can move, then that thusly,
>> the destination can immediately detect the movement, gravitationally,
>> effectively doubling light speed ("guide lode").
>>
>> Then, the space-time wheel, is after the idea that two systems
>> can't observe each other at light-speed, so they each rotate,
>> toward light speed, effectively halving light speed ("space-time
>> wheel"). 
>>
>>
>> It's well-known that that solar system, for example, has that
>> the effective force of gravity always points at the source
>> not the image, so the speed of gravity is greater than the
>> speed of light, otherwise gravity would point at the image
>> not the source, and the solar system would fly apart.
>>
>>
>> Then, for real space-contraction then light speed is a value
>> that can be derived as basically twice aether drift velocity.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Since setting up a mechanical system over many astronomical units
> or parsecs is non-trivial, mostly it would depend on planetary
> and solar axial alignments, about Moon-Earth, Earth-Sun, Sun-Polaris,
> and so on, about when the planets and stars align, then as with
> regards to the much, much wider surrounds of the galactic and
> super-galactic about that, the projections and these kinds of things.
> 
> 
> At least: it's conceptually simple notions of "guide lode" and
> "space-time wheel", and furthermore science as it is today
> doesn't make them simply farcical or "dis-proven".
> 
> 
> Since Einstein's SR is local, then also light-speed is local.
> 
> That "there are no closed finite time-like curves", and so
> no violation of causality or paradoxes of time, doesn't say
> much about "closed infinitesimal time-like curves", which
> basically reflect chance itself then for that clocks either
> slow or meet, about real space-contraction.
> 
> 
> "Astronomical units" and "parsecs" are both kinds of local, measures.
> This also is already in the theory about differences between
> "length" the metric and "distance" the norm, since usually enough
> people forget they're not the same thing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Your mom's butt is what they use for bigger stuff.  LOL!  

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what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-06-01 08:56 -0700
  Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-06-01 23:28 -0700
    Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-06-02 01:53 -0700
      Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 00:39 -0700
      Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-06-08 00:07 -0700
        Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 06:24 -0600
          Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 08:30 -0700
            Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 08:42 -0700
              Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth Brennus <brennus@allia.org> - 2026-06-08 20:38 +0000
    Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 06:33 -0600
      Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-06-02 19:55 +0200
    Re: what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 14:09 -0700

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