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| Subject | Re: Quantum process demonstrates superposition of ordered events |
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
| Date | 2015-11-04 17:08 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <UI2dnVBYw4eVDafLnZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@giganews.com> (permalink) |
On 11/4/15 4:50 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote: > On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 11:04:06 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: >> Quantum process demonstrates superposition of ordered events >>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-quantum-superposition-events.html >> >>> (Phys.org)--In a quantum superposition, a quantum object can be in two >>> incompatible states at the same time, which is famously illustrated >>> by Schrödinger's dead-and-alive cat. Recent research has shown that >>> it's possible to have a superposition not only of incompatible >>> states, but also of incompatible orders of events. We often think of >>> events occurring in a definite chronological order, with event A >>> happening (and causing) event B, or vice versa. But in certain >>> quantum processes, events don't happen in a single definite order, >>> but instead both orders (A before B, and B before A) occur at the >>> same time. This counterintuitive superposition-like phenomenon is >>> called "causal nonseparability." >>> >>> "In everyday life, we are used to experiencing one thing always >>> happening after another, effects following their causes," Mateus >>> Araújo at the University of Vienna and the Institute for Quantum >>> Optics and Quantum Information in Vienna, Austria, told Phys.org. "So >>> it is a bit unsettling to realize that deep down Nature doesn't work >>> like this, that things can happen without a definite causal order, >>> where we cannot say what is the cause and what is the effect." >>> >>> Until now, causal nonseparability in quantum mechanics has been >>> conceived only in a very abstract way, with no clear physical >>> interpretation. But in a new paper published in the New Journal of >>> Physics, Araújo and coauthors have described an example of a physical >>> quantum process that demonstrates causal nonseparability. > > A version of this has already been seen in "macroscopic" objects being put into a superposition of states: > > http://arxiv.org/pdf/0807.1834.pdf > > The events that cause either oscillation, or no oscillation, are mutually exclusive. > > For the cantilevered mirror to be in a superposition of oscillating and not oscillating, both sets of causal events have to have happened at the same time. > > > Mark L. Fergerson > Thanks, Mark. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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Quantum process demonstrates superposition of ordered events Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 13:04 -0600
Re: Quantum process demonstrates superposition of ordered events "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 14:50 -0800
Re: Quantum process demonstrates superposition of ordered events RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 15:07 -0800
Re: Quantum process demonstrates superposition of ordered events Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 17:08 -0600
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