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The uncaused cause.

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> Big Bang believers think the [known] universe is finite.  I am not so sure.

The unknown universe is infinite.

Still: All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me:

  Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

Everyone, from the serial killer to his executer, slave and master,
are best viewed under this light (SuperDeterminism), instead of 
assuming "free will" ("the uncaused cause"), à la Christianity.

SuperDeterminism was useful to Einstein, and to me;
it is _not_ useful to The Pope.

You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
nor General Relativity; in fact, they _contradict_ each other.

The best you can do is:

  - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
  - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).

The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:

  It implies _perfect_ knowledge;
  yet it's an _Ensemble_ of tests, a series, not just one test,
  like a pollster, asking _10_ people if they'll vote for Hillary or not.

  Correlation does not imply causation.

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