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All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us...

From Jeff-Relf.Me @.
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Subject All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us...
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Date 2018-04-10 09:49 -0700

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> > The Universe is Eternal.

Yes, the four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal;
at once nothing -and- everything.

> Where’s the EVIDENCE of that?

All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:

    Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

> Evidence points in the other direction, that at a finite time in the past,
> everything was much, much, much closer together than today — so much so
> that it was clearly much different looking than today.  No galaxies, no
> atoms, extremely hot. 

Yes, the farther back in time we look, the less we know;
we don't just "approach" zero knowledge, we hit it.

Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...
now add a little "gravity/eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ),
so it all fits in the head of a pin.

When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago:
no entropy, infinite eXergy/Gravity/Density... a black hole.

Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death.
Eventually, gravity/eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
but none of the eXergy/Gravity/Density.

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                All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us... Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-10 09:49 -0700
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                Go back far enough, and the -known- Universe is zip, zero, nada. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-10 08:52 -0700
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