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Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space

From jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space
Date 2015-11-12 18:58 +0000
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In sci.physics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 04:45:46 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 02:09:35 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 00:29:32 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Ludwig Böhm <ludwb@widespectrum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Edgardo Alcantara <edgardoalcantara@carosseryrepair.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> W dniu Sat, 07 Nov 2015 07:33:26 +0600 (PDT) uzytkownik jimp napisal:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No single-stage-to-orbit (SSTO) rocket has ever been constructed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The Apollo Lunar Module was single-stage-to-orbit.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> YOu forgot to add "allegedly".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No, I did not and Elvis is really dead.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any errorbars associated with those proofs? Do you have any proofs, to 
>>>>>>> begin with?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The fact that the Apollo Lunar Module was single-stage-to-orbit has
>>>>>>nowhere to attach "errorbars" (sic).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You are a babbling idiot.
>>>>> 
>>>>>          The original Atlas was a SSTO,
>>>>> all it discarded was two of the three engines.
>>>> 
>>>>Nope. 
>>> 
>>> :"  It was a liquid-fuel rocket burning liquid oxygen and RP-1 
>>> :in three engines configured in an unusual "stage-and-a-half" 
>>> :or "Parallel Staging" design: its two outboard booster engines 
>>> :were jettisoned during ascent, while its center sustainer engine, 
>>> :fuel tanks and other structural elements were retained into orbit.
>>>  
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(rocket_family)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (correct the url)
>>
>>Doesn't address the point in question, try again. 
>>
>>BTW, the "original Atlas" was an ICBM, not an orbital space vehicle.
> 
> :"On 18 December 1958, the launch of Atlas 10B sent the missile 
> :into orbit around the Earth (without use of an upper stage) carrying 
> :the "SCORE" (Signal Communications by Orbiting Relay Equipment)
> :communications payload. 
> :Atlas 10B/SCORE, at 8,750 lb (3,970 kg) was the heaviest man-made 
> :object then in orbit, the first voice relay satellite, and the first man-made 
> :object in space easily visible to the naked eye due to the large, 
> :mirror-polished stainless steel tank."
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM-65_Atlas#Launch_history
> 
>         See "without use of upper stage".
> 
>         It was not an ICBM in that use.

From your own link: "configured in an unusual "stage-and-a-half" or".

A stage and a half is not single stage.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 08:38 -0600
  Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 16:01 +0100
  Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-07 09:22 -0600
    Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-07 10:39 -0500
      Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Edgardo Alcantara <edgardoalcantara@carosseryrepair.org> - 2015-11-07 15:44 +0000
        Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-07 11:00 -0500
        Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 21:47 +0000
          Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Edgardo Alcantara <edgardoalcantara@carosseryrepair.org> - 2015-11-08 00:49 +0000
            Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:40 +0000
              Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-08 03:27 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 03:43 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-08 04:10 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 04:42 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-08 06:23 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space Edgardo Alcantara <edgardoalcantara@carosseryrepair.org> - 2015-11-08 16:01 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-08 17:33 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space Ludwig Böhm <ludwb@widespectrum.com> - 2015-11-11 23:56 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 00:29 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space Ludwig Böhm <ludwb@widespectrum.com> - 2015-11-12 00:38 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 01:11 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space Ludwig Böhm <ludwb@widespectrum.com> - 2015-11-12 16:07 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 18:47 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-12 16:06 -0500
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space Ludwig Böhm <ludwb@widespectrum.com> - 2015-11-12 21:22 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space Ludwig Böhm <ludwb@widespectrum.com> - 2015-11-12 16:08 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-11 20:55 -0500
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 02:09 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-11 23:08 -0500
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 04:45 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-12 03:28 -0500
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 18:58 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-12 16:11 -0500
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 21:43 +0000
              Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-07 22:53 -0500
                Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 04:14 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-07 23:43 -0500
                Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Edgardo Alcantara <edgardoalcantara@carosseryrepair.org> - 2015-11-08 16:25 +0000
                Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-08 06:24 +0000
          Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-08 03:29 +0000
            Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 03:40 +0000
              Re: It's not rocket science?we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-08 04:11 +0000
      Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 09:58 -0600
        Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-07 10:01 -0600
        Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-07 11:21 -0500
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            Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-07 11:27 -0500
              Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 10:29 -0600
                Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-07 10:35 -0600
                Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-11-08 14:01 +1100
        Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-07 18:53 +0000
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            Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-07 20:22 +0000
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                Re: It's not rocket science—we need a better way to get to space jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-07 21:19 +0000
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