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Re: NASA Doesn't Know.

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On 27/05/16 11:42, Bast wrote:
> David Mitchell wrote:
>> On 26/05/16 11:48, Bast wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> How Big Are Those Killer Asteroids? ... NASA Doesn't Know.
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/science/asteroids-nathan-myhrvold-nasa.html?_r=0
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> I can tell you a lot of what..NASA Doesn't Know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> but then you would call me a NAZA denier.
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>>> Nasa has no reason to provide answers.
>>> They get paid for research,....as long as they say "we are still
>>> looking for the answers", they get paid.
>>> If they suddenly gave us all the answers they would be out of work.
>>>
>>> Same reason that money going to cancer research will never provide a
>>> cure for cancer.
>>> Nobody wants to put themselves out of a nice lucrative cushy job.
>>
>> You're an idiot.
>>
>> 1) Cancer research is neither "lucrative", nor "cushy" for those
>> actually doing the work.
>> 2) The prognosis for someone with cancer is infinitely better now than
>> even 20 years ago.  Why do you think that is?  Sorry, I know thinking
>> isn't your strong point: it's because of the research.  That's how it
>> works. 3) The people actually doing the research are almost all what
>> one might describe as "academics".  Apart from the joy of learning, and
>> the knowledge that one is doing something worthwhile, the one thing which
>> academics prize above all is the respect of their peers.  Having
>> published work cited and used is the way in which this is expressed.  It
>> is absolutely, therefore, in their best interest to both do good work,
>> and to publish it.
>>
>> The French have a saying: "A man does not look behind a door where he
>> would not hide himself"
>>
>> I know you're not very bright, so I'll explain: for most people, the
>> first guide they have as to how others will behave is how they would
>> behave themselves.  For some people, it's all they have, others draw on
>> wider sources.  If you believe that a large number of people would take
>> vast amounts of money, much of it raised by charities, and fritter it
>> away whilst pretending to work, thus denying it to others who might,
>> perhaps, actually do the work, then you belive that large numbers of
>> people are immoral assholes.
>>
>> I think that you see too much of yourself in other people.
>>
>> In summary:
>> You're an idiot,
>> "Research" has raised the survival rate for most cancers from "fuck-all"
>> to "reasonable".
>> You're an immoral asshole.
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> Do you feel better now ?

Well, you're still an asshole, so no.

> So which do you work for?, Nasa, or the "medical" industry ?

Neither.

>
> People are still dying of cancer everyday,....no one has a better prognosis
> than they did years ago, and far more people are being diagnosed with
> cancer, than ever before.

Well yes.  That's a good thing.  Are you actually reading what you write 
'cos I may have to recalibrate my stupid-o-meter.

> It just costs more to keep them alive, for a bit longer. But they still die,

Well yes, everybody does.   The goal of cancer research isn't to make 
people immortal.

The goal is to understand the causes of cancer and devise treatments to 
either "cure" it or allow more quality time once it's diagnosed.

In fact, cancer survival rates have doubled in the last 40 years, and 
now 50% of people survive for more than 10 years (in England and Wales).

> and the reaserch money machine, keeps pumping out more money
> So your strawman arguments have no fact, to back them up at all.

Wow.  Is this how you "reason" in real life?

You state, yourself, that "far more people are being diagnosed with 
cancer, than ever before", which is unquestionably a good thing, and one 
of the key factors in cancer treatment.

Cancer survival rates have doubled in the last forty years.  Doubled.

So your argument that cancer research is just a money making scam, and 
has no real effect must be looking a little foolish now, even to you.

By the way, I think that you should look up what a straw man argument is.

Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

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    Re: NASA Doesn't Know. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 05:31 +0100
      Re: NASA Doesn't Know. "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-05-27 06:42 -0400
        Re: NASA Doesn't Know. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 05:01 +0100
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