Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy?

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Date	2017-03-09 23:37 -0800
From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy?
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Yousuf Khan wrote:
> >
> > On 3/6/2017 6:24 AM, alal65536@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Clearly entropy has not reached its maximum.  We will know it has reached its maximum, once it stops increasing, and stabilises
> >
> > Maximum entropy is reached when there is an uniform temperature across
> > any two and all points in the universe (i.e. absolute zero), not when
> > the universe stops expanding. So the rules of quantum mechanics don't
> > allow for such uniform temperatures to ever exist in the universe, there
> > will always exist a slightest differential of energy levels between
> > points in the universe, this is called a quantum fluctuation.
> >
> > There is a certain theory about the cause of the Big Bang being a
> > quantum fluctuation. This is not a theory about how the universe started
> > (that's obviously the Big Bang, and that's not in question), but a
> > theory about how the Big Bang started! The theory goes that there
> > existed an empty void of a primordial universe prior to this universe;
> > you can't even call it an universe as no structures existed in it. This
> > void contained no matter, just a lot of energy in the form of quantum
> > fluctuations. If there is even the slightest quantum fluctuation
> > available in the void, then a new proper universe can be born, with
> > structures in it.
> >
> > We'll never know if this theory of the what existed prior to the Big
> > Bang is true, as the Big Bang erased all evidence of anything prior to
> > it. In fact, the entire concept of "prior to" just doesn't exist until
> > after the Big Bang, because time started with it too. If the primordial
> > void contained a dimension known as time, we don't know. The void might
> > have existed just a microsecond or less before the Big Bang, or it may
> > have existed a trillion years or more beforehand. Time itself is all
> > relative according to Einstein, so we don't even have the same context
> > of time as what existed before.
> >
> >         Yousuf Khan
> 
> The evidence of the big bang is called...the big dipper. Why do you
> think it is the brightest stars in our constelation??
> 
> It is nature's way of telling you how it looked before the big bang. the
> big dipper and the little dipper are samples
> of before the big bang.
> 
> I know it's going to take a while for you to get it because...you're
> waiting to be told How To Think.


I think it should be obvious to everyone by now...Yousuf Khan is a walking textbook. He talks..textbook talk.

As you know textbooks are monopoloy controlled publications...you think what they want you to think, textbook style.


Here is a sample from above of textbook monoploy thinking..


"We'll never know if this theory of the what existed prior to the Big
 Bang is true,..."


"We'll"???? Who is "We"? Answer: textbook.


Poor Yousuf Khan...he's not even aware of it. 

and he goes on...

"In fact, the entire concept of "prior to" just doesn't exist until
 after the Big Bang, because time started with it too."



"in fact"????  


If the textbooks tells him "just doesn't exist", ...

well then, he's done for...

toast.

What does a computer say? "Does not compute."

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Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-03-05 14:30 -0800
  Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-05 17:35 -0600
    Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-03-05 17:09 -0800
      Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-05 18:18 -0800
        Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-03-06 03:21 -0800
          Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 12:06 -0600
            Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-06 18:37 -0500
            Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-03-07 03:47 -0800
              Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-07 05:11 -0800
                Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2017-03-09 07:07 -0500
                Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-09 06:00 -0800
              Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 07:18 -0600
      Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-05 20:48 -0600
        Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-03-06 03:24 -0800
          Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-06 06:10 -0800
          Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 12:04 -0600
          Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2017-03-09 07:42 -0500
            Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-03-09 06:40 -0800
              Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-09 09:57 -0600
              Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2017-03-10 01:46 -0500
            Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-09 10:26 -0800
              Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-09 23:37 -0800
    Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-06 18:05 -0500
      Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-03-07 04:00 -0800
        Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 07:17 -0600
        Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-07 05:19 -0800
          Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-03-07 08:48 -0800
            Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 11:41 -0600
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            Re: Yesterday's religion is today's politics, and I'm agnostic. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-07 16:50 -0500
            Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-07 14:22 -0800
              Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-03-07 17:14 -0800
                Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-08 06:06 -0800
                Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-03-08 23:07 -0800
                Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-09 05:54 -0800
                Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 09:51 -0600
            Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2017-03-09 07:54 -0500
          Re: "String Theory" can "model" 10^500 "vacua". benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-07 16:48 -0500
        Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2017-03-09 07:46 -0500
  Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-05 16:08 -0800
  Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-03-05 18:25 -0800
  Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 09:11 -0800
    Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-07 17:57 -0800
    Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 09:19 -0800
      Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-08 12:33 -0800
  Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2017-03-09 00:20 -0500
    Re: Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-08 23:43 -0800

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