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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | FYI: Unified Memory Architecture (UMA) (Re: Implementing Gas for a Compute Shader [Avoid TDR]) |
| Date | 2026-07-09 19:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <112omn2$8oqk$3@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | <10seekb$rsl4$4@solani.org> <10sias6$ud5u$4@solani.org> <112nnbg$81rj$1@solani.org> |
Hi, These novel GPUs , that are part of AI Laptops, feature Unified Memory Architecture (UMA). In the case of my Ryzen the main memory is 32 GB, and the GPU can access 16 GB. It is a design where CPUs and GPUs share a single coherent memory space, eliminating the need for separate host and accelerator memory. Nevertheless the WebGPU API, works with some copy and synchronization semantics and buffer abstractions, which is not a big loss. But all buffers reside in the same AI Lapop RAM. And the MIMD architecture allows instructions where seperate threads access the same memory location, either for read or for write. There is also a data type atomic(T), which features operation such as AtomicAdd() etc.. etc.. BTW, I made a GitHub project of my exploration: 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget BTW, pi-WAM is nevertheless optimized to have no memory contention. On the other hand pi-WAM is happy to access large memory areas. Bye BTW: The grandmother of these novel GPUs is NVIDIAs Volta which already appeared in 2017, meanwhile we have 2026. See also: Starting with the NVIDIA Volta architecture, Independent Thread Scheduling allows full concurrency between threads, regardless of warp. https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/back-to-simd/311983 The AMD Radeon 860M is an integrated graphics processor that does not have its own dedicated VRAM. Instead, it dynamically shares up to 50% of your total system RAM with the CPU in a standard Windows configuration. https://www.amd.com/en/blogs/2025/faqs-amd-variable-graphics-memory-vram-ai-model-sizes-quantization-mcp-more.html Ryann Likunov schrieb: > Mild Shock wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I guess, you can read off how to do it here, >> i.e. avoid TDR (DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG 0x887A0006). The below compute >> toys example has a similar >> >> approach, just like my π-WAM and Hack GPU backend, >> that is based on a Instruction Set Architecture (ISA): > > how come they are not able to map the local RAM > as gpu arrays for using them as local AI resource >
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Implementing Gas for a Compute Shader [Avoid TDR] (Re: AI dooms day escape: Güttinger Wald) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-09 10:49 +0200
FYI: Unified Memory Architecture (UMA) (Re: Implementing Gas for a Compute Shader [Avoid TDR]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-09 19:45 +0200
he Wider von Neumann Neck (Re: FYI: Unified Memory Architecture (UMA)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-10 07:49 +0200
Mac Neo: The dwarf with giant GPU muscles [macOS IOGPUFamily] (Re: The new MIMD Warp is the cherry on top) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-10 08:29 +0200
Dumbwit, just run it on your RTX 5070 trash (Re: he Wider von Neumann Neck) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-10 15:47 +0200
We are waiting Dumbwit: 1 Month, 3 Months, .. [node.js dawn] (Re: Dumbwit, just run it on your RTX 5070 trash) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-10 16:29 +0200
We are still waiting for results! [Confused Dumbwit] (Re: We are waiting Dumbwit: 1 Month, 3 Months, .. [node.js dawn]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-10 22:47 +0200
404 Brain not Found [GPU saturation] (Re: We are still waiting for results! [Confused Dumbwit]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-10 23:42 +0200
I nowhere talked about 10GB/s (Re: 404 Brain not Found [GPU saturation]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-10 23:43 +0200
I nowhere said something about AI (Re: I nowhere talked about 10GB/s) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-10 23:51 +0200
Re: I nowhere said something about AI (Re: I nowhere talked about 10GB/s) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-11 00:09 +0200
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