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Re: OK, .. Let's See :-)

From Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: OK, .. Let's See :-)
Date 2025-06-30 01:17 -0500
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On 6/29/25 11:07 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/29/25 8:06 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 6/29/25 7:53 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 6/29/25 7:29 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> On 6/29/25 6:58 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To some degree, information on really what happened in the 12 day 
>>>>> war with Israel has been refined and more people are talking and 
>>>>> showing pictures, etc,
>>>>>
>>>>> First off, much to the contrary of what Trump blabbered for you 
>>>>> American Sheep, Iran used 14 missiles to hit the largest American 
>>>>> military base in the region inside Ghatar, and 6 of them hit the 
>>>>> base and destroyed their targets successfully. Trump had said 
>>>>> "none" could reach it and one Ghatari witness had said he was sure 
>>>>> of 1 that hit the base (after which he ran like Devil himself was 
>>>>> trying to catch him). But actually 6 of them made it there. That's 
>>>>> 43% rate of success against _everything_ that Americans can do 
>>>>> about it! I consider it a success.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had read an obscure note somewhere right after the attack, that 
>>>>> about half of them had made it there. So that report, whoever it 
>>>>> was who said it, was the only authentic one that got broadcast live.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, more than just one lab got toast in Weismann Institute. 
>>>>> Israelis are now saying 8 missiles hit the campus and destroyed 
>>>>> multiple buildings. Satellite images of it that's published shows 
>>>>> the entire campus is toast and looks like it has been burnt in Hell 
>>>>> for a day or two.
>>>>>
>>>>> Israelis still do not say how many died in there. Doesn't matter. 
>>>>> Next time around Iran will hit such scientific centers much harder 
>>>>> to make sure enough of them see Moses instead of helping Nazis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plenty of targets to hit yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of Iranian experts think war with Israel will continue in 
>>>>> about one week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Israelis won't have the life they had before November 2023. 
>>>>> Time is not on the side of Nazis in the region.
>>>>>
>>>>> You pissed the Iranians. You'll see what Saddam saw as long as he 
>>>>> lived!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Two Iranian Marja's today decided to give Trump and Netanyahu a 
>>>> chance to live. Both declared that in the event of an assassination 
>>>> attempt against Iran's Leader, they will issue Fatwas that will make 
>>>> both Nazis "mohareb"s.
>>>>
>>>> Ask Salman Rushdie what that word means and what the consequences of 
>>>> becoming a morareb are. He'll describe it to you both.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The timing of the Marja's reactions, as well as the coincidence of 
>>> two almost simultaneous reactions from two different Marja's isn't 
>>> surprising. Iran's TV and other social media are now being used by 
>>> various known Iranian faces to ask the Leader to annul his 
>>> anti-nuclear weapon fatwa. They are arguing that _keeping_ nuclear 
>>> weapons to keep the Nazis at bay is different from _using_ it, and he 
>>> should at least change his fatwa to allow keeping such weapons.
>>>
>>> So Nazis are now in a hurry to get rid of the Leader before he 
>>> changes anything about his fatwa. Hence the sense behind the Marja's 
>>> cautionary note to the two Nazis.
>>>
>>> And this sense of urgency in them, in turn, indicate that the Leader 
>>> might move to change or totally annul his fatwa.
>>>
>>> An Iranian military cargo plane flew to Pakestan and shortly after 
>>> returned to Iran too.
>>>
>>> It could be that Iran's nukes are being returned from Pakestan to 
>>> Iran. I think Turkey also keeps a few of Iran's nukes. At some point 
>>> in the past I thought Israel also was keeping a few of them that were 
>>> purchased by Iran and they kept them safe for Iran. But true or not, 
>>> Iran does not have access to those ones right now.
>>>
>>> Doesn't matter one way or the other. Iran may have to use nukes to 
>>> bring her defense costs down, especially when Americans will again 
>>> actively engage in war with Iran.
>>>
>>> This thing isn't over until it is over :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> This is one of the latest ones of such requests by known figures. This 
>> guy is a famous document film maker in Iran:
>>
>> https://streamable.com/cp9glf
>>
>> You may use a software to translate it and add it as subtitles if you 
>> don't know Persian, or if you care to see exactly what it is that he's 
>> saying (i.e. if you are an Israeli scared shitless agent).
>>
>>
> 
> 
> A bit more on the hit on Ghatar's airbase. The warhead on all missiles 
> were each 400 kg. So almost half a ton; they weren't toys meant to save 
> face for Trump. 6 of them which hit that base must've done more than 
> leaving grey marks.
> 
> But they weren't the best and most powerful ones. That's what pisses me 
> off. Against Nazis this way of response is suicide.
> 
> There's no mercy involved. Either they kill you or you kill them. 
> Nothing else is there to do with Nazis. Hopefully the next one, which is 
> going to be sooner than we think, will show more wisdom in what Iranians 
> are doing.
> 
> And that means nukes! The language for communicating with Nazis.
> 
> 
> 
> 



So I stepped back past hour or so to take a look at the big picture and 
once again check to see what happened and what's happening. And more 
importantly, what's there to learn!

Just about anything I see, I already correctly saw in the past two weeks 
and even mentioned them here. But a sum up might be due now. So here we go:


At least ten or so time that I know, various Israeli heads of operations 
or heads of government or Mossad or .. told via their news channels that 
they had been working on the preparations for this war for years!..

Well,.. then why did they make at least three major mistakes about such 
an operation? So yes, they've proven themselves to be people who make 
huge mistakes. I know why they have that in them but that's another matter.

What are the three mistakes? I mentioned them before in various spots in 
this blog but here I go over them very briefly, all in one place.

First and foremost they made the mistake that Iranian missiles will not 
manage to make it to their targets effectively enough through some 9 or 
10 layers of defense that they had set up together with the Americans 
and French and the British and Germans. Each of these countries gathered 
their forces to help shoot down the incoming missiles in various stages 
of their flights. But the overall air defense failed.

Underestimating "enemy"s capability of their weapons is a major military 
mistake. There's no excuse for goofing this up. Iranian missiles got to 
their targets in large enough numbers to really fuck some 
infrastructures that they had nicely formed and packed in there. The 
missile attacks worked! And it was managed and directed from places way 
more than a thousand kilometers from them. It worked so effectively that 
the Israelis were the ones who requested ceasefire. They begged Trump to 
find a way for it. Trump called Ghatar's foreign minister to call 
Araghchi and tell him what I said earlier in this blog.

Their number 2 mistake was that they miscalculated Iranians' general 
sentiments! Israelis had planned for, and were under the impression that 
Iranian people will pour in the streets against their own government 
right after top military and Militia figures were eliminated by Israel, 
and would take this chance to change the hated regime after 46 long 
years of being subjected to it.

But their calculations were totally off. The sentiment of "Women, Life, 
Freedom" desires and movement in Iranians is far less important compared 
to seeing Nazis bombing their country. So the sentiment that those Bozos 
in Israel were so banking on, disappeared the moment Israeli bombs began 
hitting Tehran and other cities. And I mean totally disappeared. The 
bombs, in fact, worked exactly the opposite of what Israelis expected. 
The political matters disappeared and Iranians became just one people 
and began doing what they could to fight Israel.

A huge amount of help from individual civilians poured in to inform them 
of suspicious activities, causing a major disruption in the plans of 
thousands of 5th column agents. Israelis were thinking they could change 
the regime. A big mistake.

The third mistake of the Israelis was to think that the amount of time 
Iranians needed to control matters in the initial chaos at the beginning 
of this surprise war would be at least one or two days. Bad mistake. It 
took Iranians only three hours to get things under control and begin 
proper defense and offense. This was more than a military mistake. To 
calculate the extent of time the chaos would last requires several 
different capabilities, only one of which being correct intelligence. 
Israelis didn't have that. In their years of planning this, their Mossad 
could not get a correct estimate of how long that chaos would last. This 
is a severe limitation, and this information about Israelis is new. It 
is something to learn of its existence!

So I learned two facts about Israel for the first time:

1- Israelis proved to be prone to make huge mistakes. All three mistakes 
described above are huge ones for a country who initiates a war. This 
says that they're not war-worthy. Proof of it also was an only 12 day 
war ending with Israelis requesting ceasefire.

2- Israelis have solid limitations in their capacity to study other 
nations, and almost no amount of time will added in that study improves 
it. Iran is not USA. Modern Human is not cro-magnon human. USA is a huge 
chicken industry with incubators hatching waves after waves of 
look-alike, act-alike, and think-alike Americans. It is a nation that's 
made to be used as Sheep, so I don't give Jews credit for mastering the 
controlling of them where credit is not due. Iran is a different nation. 
 From genes and up! And in every respect. In this war, I found out 
Israelis are not capable of understanding Iranians under any situation.

How can a nation be like that? First off, Nazis aren't very objective 
people. Plus, being utterly tribal doesn't help tribals understand 
people like Iranians who are true "citizens". Iranians are ages and I 
mean eras ahead of Israelis by being citizens, not tribal entities. 
Therefore, Iran is not the only nation that Israelis cannot understand. 
Any nation, any Modern Human nation, is beyond the Israelis' grasp for 
understanding them enough to start a war with them.

But I thought by carefully choosing the talented and giving it enough 
time, even Israelis could manage to understand a nation like Iranians, 
but this war changed my mind.

I learned these two matters about Israelis. I didn't know them before.


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