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What is a field?

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First post2018-12-07 06:08 -0800
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  What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-07 06:08 -0800
    Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 16:58 +0000
      Re: What is a field? paulcardinale0@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 11:58 -0800
      Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 06:05 -0800
        Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 14:13 +0000
    Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 11:39 -0800
      Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 06:28 -0800
        Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 15:35 +0000
          Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 10:33 -0800
            Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:43 -0800
            Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 19:15 +0000
        Re: What is a field? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 17:52 +0000
          Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 18:21 +0000
          Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 10:26 -0800
            Re: What is a field? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 18:37 +0000
            Re: What is a field? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-08 20:18 +0100
              Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 19:56 +0000
                Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 21:51 -0800
                Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-09 08:20 -0800
                  Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 12:44 -0800
                  Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 22:20 +0000
                    Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-10 08:04 -0800
                      Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 10:31 -0800
                        Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-10 13:33 -0800
                          Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 13:53 -0800
                            Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-11 06:16 -0800
                              Re: What is a field? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-11 14:41 +0000
                          Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 22:00 +0000
                            Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 14:13 -0800
                              Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 23:03 +0000
                                Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 15:46 -0800
                                  Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 01:37 +0000
                                Re: What is a field? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 16:26 -0800
                                Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-11 07:32 -0800
                                  Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:53 +0000
                                    Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-13 07:27 -0800
                              Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-11 07:27 -0800
                                Re: What is a field? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-11 16:00 +0000
                      Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 21:56 +0000
                        Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-11 06:51 -0800
                          Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 18:42 +0000
                            Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-11 18:09 -0800
                              Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 20:18 -0800
                              Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:53 +0000
                                Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-13 07:21 -0800
                                  Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 18:32 +0000
                                    Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-13 13:20 -0800
                                      Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 21:46 +0000
                                  Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 10:47 -0800
                                    Re: What is a field? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-14 05:35 +0000
                                    Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-14 15:13 -0800
                                      Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 15:22 -0800
                                        Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-15 14:05 -0800
                                          Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 23:27 -0800
                    Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:04 -0500
              Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 23:30 -0500
              Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-09 08:12 -0800
                Re: What is a field? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-09 17:19 +0100
            Re: What is a field? Rich Carpenter <lcug@kigcohc.pa> - 2018-12-09 00:32 +0000
        Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:42 -0800
          Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 19:15 +0000
            Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 23:29 -0500
              Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-10 06:18 -0800
                Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 07:26 -0800
                  Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-10 08:11 -0800
                    Re: What is a field? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-10 17:07 +0000
                    Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 22:00 +0000
                      Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-11 07:14 -0800
                        Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 18:42 +0000
                          Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-12 04:56 -0800
                            Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:53 +0000
          Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-09 07:54 -0800
            Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-09 07:58 -0800
            Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 22:20 +0000
              Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:00 -0500
                Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 18:14 +0000
                  Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 10:59 -0500
                    Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-13 08:51 -0800
                    Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 18:32 +0000
                      Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-13 13:23 -0800
                        Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 21:46 +0000
                          Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 23:36 +0000
                            Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 20:06 -0500
                              Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 12:21 +0000
                          Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-14 15:16 -0800
                            Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 02:14 +0000
                      Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 19:53 -0500
                        Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 12:21 +0000
                Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 10:38 -0800
    Re: What is a field? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 12:48 -0800
      Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 12:51 -0800
        Re: What is a field? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 12:22 -0800
          Re: What is a field? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-08 22:05 +0100
            Re: What is a field? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 16:24 -0800
          Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 23:46 -0500
            Re: What is a field? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 22:41 -0800
              Re: What is a field? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 14:08 -0800
                Re: What is a field? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 14:44 -0800
                  Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:36 -0500
          Re: What is a field? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 21:56 -0800
            Re: What is a field? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 22:54 -0800
              Re: What is a field? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 23:22 -0800
                Re: What is a field? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 12:35 -0800
    Re: What is a field? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-07 22:01 +0100
      Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 06:42 -0800
        Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 15:35 +0000
          Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 10:21 -0800
            Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 19:15 +0000
              Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 14:17 -0800
                Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 22:42 +0000
                  Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 14:58 -0800
                    Re: What is a field? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-09 01:22 +0000
                    Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 13:07 +0000
              Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 23:26 -0500
                Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 13:07 +0000
          Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 10:27 -0800
            Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 19:15 +0000
            Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 23:23 -0500
              Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 13:07 +0000
              Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-09 14:19 -0800
                Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 22:25 +0000
                  Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-10 07:54 -0800
                    Re: What is a field? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-10 17:15 +0000
                    Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 21:41 +0000
                  Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:14 -0500
                    Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 18:18 +0000
        Re: What is a field? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-08 20:09 +0100
          Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 14:28 -0800
            Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 22:42 +0000
              Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 14:56 -0800
                Re: What is a field? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-12-09 00:06 +0100
                Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 00:13 +0000
                  Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 23:44 -0500
                  Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-09 09:19 -0800
                    Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 22:22 +0000
                      Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-10 07:50 -0800
                        Re: What is a field? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-10 17:09 +0000
                        Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 21:41 +0000
              Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 23:37 -0500
                Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 13:07 +0000
              Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-09 08:40 -0800
                Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 22:22 +0000
                  Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-10 08:07 -0800
                    Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 21:56 +0000
                      Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-11 07:07 -0800
                        Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 18:42 +0000
                          Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-11 18:19 -0800
                            Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:53 +0000
                              Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-13 07:54 -0800
                                Re: What is a field? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 18:32 +0000
            Re: What is a field? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-09 01:24 +0100
              Re: What is a field? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 23:42 -0500
              Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-09 10:08 -0800
                Re: What is a field? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-09 19:36 +0100
          Re: What is a field? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-08 14:43 -0800
            Re: What is a field? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-09 11:51 +0100
    Re: What is a field? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 13:42 -0800
    Re: What is a field? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-15 19:51 -0800

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#479238 — What is a field?

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-12-07 06:08 -0800
SubjectWhat is a field?
Message-ID<f3767f3e-a90d-4477-9a36-f621ece8f3dc@googlegroups.com>
According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space, something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within a solid body.

This suggests that space is some sort of solid body--the aether?

Based on this, I developed a structured and elastic aether called the E-Matrix that fits Weinberg’s definition of the field. The E-Matrix leads to the development of a theory of everything called Model Mechanics. The main features of Mode lMechanics are as follows:

It offers realistic processes for the origin of all visible matters. 
It explains the cell division and the consciousness processes.
It provides a mechanism to amalgamate all the forces of nature. 
It can be validated experimentally. 
It gives rise to an Improved Relativity Theory (IRT). 
It gives rise to a new theory of gravity called Doppler Theory of Gravity (DTG)
It includes Special Theory of Relativity and General Theory of Relativity as subsets.
It provides physical models for all the math of Quantum Mechanics.
It postulates a new repulsive fifth force identified as the CRE force.
It gives a physical explanation for the charge of a particle.
It gives physical explanations all the weird results of all quantum experiments. 
It explains the structures of atoms. 

A book on Model Mechanics is available in the following link:
http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf

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#479242

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-07 16:58 +0000
Message-ID<pue8rj$1j0o$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#479238
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space,
> something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within a solid body.
> 
> This suggests that space is some sort of solid body--the aether?

No it does not. He is making an ANALOGY not an IDENTIFICATION. 

That is what the phrase “something like” is supposed to do for you. 

A bat wing is analogous to a dragonfly. This should not suggest to you that
a bar wing is made of chitin or that a dragonfly wing has bones in it. 

You cannot read. 

> 
> Based on this, I developed a structured and elastic aether called the
> E-Matrix that fits Weinberg’s definition of the field. The E-Matrix leads
> to the development of a theory of everything called Model Mechanics. The
> main features of Mode lMechanics are as follows:
> 
> It offers realistic processes for the origin of all visible matters. 
> It explains the cell division and the consciousness processes.
> It provides a mechanism to amalgamate all the forces of nature. 
> It can be validated experimentally. 
> It gives rise to an Improved Relativity Theory (IRT). 
> It gives rise to a new theory of gravity called Doppler Theory of Gravity (DTG)
> It includes Special Theory of Relativity and General Theory of Relativity as subsets.
> It provides physical models for all the math of Quantum Mechanics.
> It postulates a new repulsive fifth force identified as the CRE force.
> It gives a physical explanation for the charge of a particle.
> It gives physical explanations all the weird results of all quantum experiments. 
> It explains the structures of atoms. 
> 
> A book on Model Mechanics is available in the following link:
> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#479262

Frompaulcardinale0@gmail.com
Date2018-12-07 11:58 -0800
Message-ID<833a9c1d-54a3-4d72-947a-0e203db101e8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479242
On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 8:58:31 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space,
> > something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within a solid body.
> > 
> > This suggests that space is some sort of solid body--the aether?
> 
> No it does not. He is making an ANALOGY not an IDENTIFICATION. 

Oh come on!  "Analogy" has 3 syllables to many for the kenseto to understand.

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#479327

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-12-08 06:05 -0800
Message-ID<8aced374-13c1-4d70-8e28-7683ef0fd6aa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479242
On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space,
> > something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within a solid body.
> > 
> > This suggests that space is some sort of solid body--the aether?
> 
> No it does not. He is making an ANALOGY not an IDENTIFICATION. 

If space is not a solid body, how can it has properties?
In any case, the E-Matrix is assumed to be a solid body and the absolute motions of material objects in the E-Matrix give rise to all the processes and interactions. 

> 
> That is what the phrase “something like” is supposed to do for you. 
> 
> A bat wing is analogous to a dragonfly. This should not suggest to you that
> a bar wing is made of chitin or that a dragonfly wing has bones in it. 
> 
> You cannot read. 
> 
> > 
> > Based on this, I developed a structured and elastic aether called the
> > E-Matrix that fits Weinberg’s definition of the field. The E-Matrix leads
> > to the development of a theory of everything called Model Mechanics. The
> > main features of Mode lMechanics are as follows:
> > 
> > It offers realistic processes for the origin of all visible matters. 
> > It explains the cell division and the consciousness processes.
> > It provides a mechanism to amalgamate all the forces of nature. 
> > It can be validated experimentally. 
> > It gives rise to an Improved Relativity Theory (IRT). 
> > It gives rise to a new theory of gravity called Doppler Theory of Gravity (DTG)
> > It includes Special Theory of Relativity and General Theory of Relativity as subsets.
> > It provides physical models for all the math of Quantum Mechanics.
> > It postulates a new repulsive fifth force identified as the CRE force.
> > It gives a physical explanation for the charge of a particle.
> > It gives physical explanations all the weird results of all quantum experiments. 
> > It explains the structures of atoms. 
> > 
> > A book on Model Mechanics is available in the following link:
> > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#479328

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-08 14:13 +0000
Message-ID<pugjhs$144m$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#479327
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space,
>>> something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within a solid body.
>>> 
>>> This suggests that space is some sort of solid body--the aether?
>> 
>> No it does not. He is making an ANALOGY not an IDENTIFICATION. 
> 
> If space is not a solid body, how can it has properties?

Ken, there are many many many things in this world that are not solid
bodies and still have properties. All of these things are real world things
with properties that physicists have recognized before you were born:
Air
Liquid helium
Electric fields
Photons
Radio waves
Neutrinos
Magnetic fields
Xrays
Rainbows 
Bose-Einstein condensates
UV radiation
Heat

I realize that your wee mind can only consider things that are real that
you can see, hold, taste, and directly sense — like cars, watermelons,
dogs, shopping carts, balls. 

But the world is much richer than those simple things you can grasp with
your senses. 

> In any case, the E-Matrix is assumed to be a solid body and the absolute
> motions of material objects in the E-Matrix give rise to all the
> processes and interactions. 
> 
>> 
>> That is what the phrase “something like” is supposed to do for you. 
>> 
>> A bat wing is analogous to a dragonfly. This should not suggest to you that
>> a bar wing is made of chitin or that a dragonfly wing has bones in it. 
>> 
>> You cannot read. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Based on this, I developed a structured and elastic aether called the
>>> E-Matrix that fits Weinberg’s definition of the field. The E-Matrix leads
>>> to the development of a theory of everything called Model Mechanics. The
>>> main features of Mode lMechanics are as follows:
>>> 
>>> It offers realistic processes for the origin of all visible matters. 
>>> It explains the cell division and the consciousness processes.
>>> It provides a mechanism to amalgamate all the forces of nature. 
>>> It can be validated experimentally. 
>>> It gives rise to an Improved Relativity Theory (IRT). 
>>> It gives rise to a new theory of gravity called Doppler Theory of Gravity (DTG)
>>> It includes Special Theory of Relativity and General Theory of Relativity as subsets.
>>> It provides physical models for all the math of Quantum Mechanics.
>>> It postulates a new repulsive fifth force identified as the CRE force.
>>> It gives a physical explanation for the charge of a particle.
>>> It gives physical explanations all the weird results of all quantum experiments. 
>>> It explains the structures of atoms. 
>>> 
>>> A book on Model Mechanics is available in the following link:
>>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#479259

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-07 11:39 -0800
Message-ID<bb7d3817-4a8d-4ca8-8fc7-c41a83e2e51e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479238
On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:08:50 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
> According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space, something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within a solid body.

This is strictly pop-sci talk. It's not what field in physics is.

--
Jan

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#479329

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-12-08 06:28 -0800
Message-ID<937bc9d6-9a6c-45fe-be9c-2b06c804d7b3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479259
On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 2:39:34 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:08:50 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
> > According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space, something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within a solid body.
> 
> This is strictly pop-sci talk. It's not what field in physics is.

So what is a field in physics? 
Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is the true meaning of a field?

In any case, it is irrelevant what a field is in physics. My theory assumes that the E-Matrix is a structured and elastic solid body occupying all of space...IOW, the E-Matrix is another name for space. And a field is the stress in the E-Matrix caused by the absolute motions of the material body in the E-Matrix.
 

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#479334

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-08 15:35 +0000
Message-ID<pugobf$1c8p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#479329
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 2:39:34 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
>> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:08:50 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
>>> According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space,
>>> something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within a solid body.
>> 
>> This is strictly pop-sci talk. It's not what field in physics is.
> 
> So what is a field in physics? 
> Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is
> the true meaning of a field?

He was giving an analogy for everyday people to give them an idea, just an
idea, of what they are something like, just like he said. He wasn’t trying
to define what they are. 

> 
> In any case, it is irrelevant what a field is in physics.

It may be irrelevant to you. It’s not irrelevant to anyone else. You are
only interested in your own ideas, and the ideas of physics are irrelevant
to you. 

>  My theory assumes that the E-Matrix is a structured and elastic solid
> body occupying all of space...IOW, the E-Matrix is another name for
> space. And a field is the stress in the E-Matrix caused by the absolute
> motions of the material body in the E-Matrix.
>  
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#479360

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-12-08 10:33 -0800
Message-ID<117abdb6-f585-4b79-a7b1-601d97716925@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479334
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 10:35:14 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 2:39:34 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> >> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:08:50 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
> >>> According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space,
> >>> something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within a solid body.
> >> 
> >> This is strictly pop-sci talk. It's not what field in physics is.
> > 
> > So what is a field in physics? 
> > Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is
> > the true meaning of a field?
> 
> He was giving an analogy for everyday people to give them an idea, just an
> idea, of what they are something like, just like he said. He wasn’t trying
> to define what they are. 

His analogy led me to formulate Model Mechanics...the most  successful theory of modern physics.
> 
> >
> > In any case, it is irrelevant what a field is in physics.
> 
> It may be irrelevant to you. It’s not irrelevant to anyone else. You are
> only interested in your own ideas, and the ideas of physics are irrelevant
> to you. 
> 
> >  My theory assumes that the E-Matrix is a structured and elastic solid
> > body occupying all of space...IOW, the E-Matrix is another name for
> > space. And a field is the stress in the E-Matrix caused by the absolute
> > motions of the material body in the E-Matrix.
> >  
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#479367

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-08 10:43 -0800
Message-ID<1336020a-f421-44c0-a842-636b550920cb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479360
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 10:33:41 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 10:35:14 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 2:39:34 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> > >> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:08:50 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
> > >>> According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space,
> > >>> something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within a solid body.
> > >> 
> > >> This is strictly pop-sci talk. It's not what field in physics is.
> > > 
> > > So what is a field in physics? 
> > > Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is
> > > the true meaning of a field?
> > 
> > He was giving an analogy for everyday people to give them an idea, just an
> > idea, of what they are something like, just like he said. He wasn’t trying
> > to define what they are. 
> 
> His analogy led me to formulate Model Mechanics...the most  successful theory of modern physics.

You live your life with this sort of perception of reality? Well, I guess it's harmless and
everyone needs a myth now and then.

--
Jan

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#479379

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-08 19:15 +0000
Message-ID<puh58j$39v$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#479360
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 10:35:14 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 2:39:34 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
>>>> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:08:50 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space,
>>>>> something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within a solid body.
>>>> 
>>>> This is strictly pop-sci talk. It's not what field in physics is.
>>> 
>>> So what is a field in physics? 
>>> Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is
>>> the true meaning of a field?
>> 
>> He was giving an analogy for everyday people to give them an idea, just an
>> idea, of what they are something like, just like he said. He wasn’t trying
>> to define what they are. 
> 
> His analogy led me to formulate Model Mechanics...the most  successful
> theory of modern physics.

His analogy managed to confuse you. 

You don’t get to decide if your theory is the most successful one. That
would be decided by others. 

Note that no one else thinks it is. 

>> 
>>> 
>>> In any case, it is irrelevant what a field is in physics.
>> 
>> It may be irrelevant to you. It’s not irrelevant to anyone else. You are
>> only interested in your own ideas, and the ideas of physics are irrelevant
>> to you. 
>> 
>>> My theory assumes that the E-Matrix is a structured and elastic solid
>>> body occupying all of space...IOW, the E-Matrix is another name for
>>> space. And a field is the stress in the E-Matrix caused by the absolute
>>> motions of the material body in the E-Matrix.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#479350

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-12-08 17:52 +0000
Message-ID<puh0cj$2id$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#479329
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 2:39:34 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
>> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:08:50 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
>> > According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space, 
>> > something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within 
>> > a solid body.

>> This is strictly pop-sci talk. It's not what field in physics is.

It is more like an example of a field, stresses at different points in
a body.

>So what is a field in physics?

A map of the values for some property at every point in space.
An example is the temperature of the air in a room. Or a weather map with
air temperature or wind speed and direction plotted.

A disturbance in a field is something that affects or changes the field.
Say a person in the room waving a blowtorch around is a disturbance of the
room's temperature field.

>Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is 
>the true meaning of a field?

He was trying to explain a science concept to non-scientists. Obviously,
it didn't work for you.

>In any case, it is irrelevant what a field is in physics.

Irrelevant to you, which is just one reason why you are a failure at 
physics.

> My theory assumes that the E-Matrix is a structured and elastic solid 
> body occupying all of space...IOW, the E-Matrix is another name for 
> space.

Which is yet another reason why your E-Matrix/IRT is a complete, total, 
absolute failure.

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#479355

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-08 18:21 +0000
Message-ID<puh23l$1tao$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#479350
Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
>> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 2:39:34 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:08:50 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
>>>> According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space, 
>>>> something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within 
>>>> a solid body.
> 
>>> This is strictly pop-sci talk. It's not what field in physics is.
> 
> It is more like an example of a field, stresses at different points in
> a body.
> 
>> So what is a field in physics?
> 
> A map of the values for some property at every point in space.
> An example is the temperature of the air in a room. Or a weather map with
> air temperature or wind speed and direction plotted.
> 
> A disturbance in a field is something that affects or changes the field.
> Say a person in the room waving a blowtorch around is a disturbance of the
> room's temperature field.
> 
>> Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is 
>> the true meaning of a field?
> 
> He was trying to explain a science concept to non-scientists. Obviously,
> it didn't work for you.
> 
>> In any case, it is irrelevant what a field is in physics.
> 
> Irrelevant to you, which is just one reason why you are a failure at 
> physics.
> 
>> My theory assumes that the E-Matrix is a structured and elastic solid 
>> body occupying all of space...IOW, the E-Matrix is another name for 
>> space.

I would also point out that space has properties but is in no way an
elastic solid body. This should be obvious to anyone. 

I gather Ken believes for some reason that the only physical things with
properties must be elastic solid bodies, so that if space has properties,
it must be an elastic solid body. 

> 
> Which is yet another reason why your E-Matrix/IRT is a complete, total, 
> absolute failure.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#479357

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-12-08 10:26 -0800
Message-ID<b1f09a5a-223b-4a10-8d69-a810b07eaaa5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479350
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 12:52:21 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
> >On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 2:39:34 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> >> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:08:50 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
> >> > According to Steven Weinberg: A field is a sort of stress in space, 
> >> > something like  the various sorts of stress that are possible within 
> >> > a solid body.
> 
> >> This is strictly pop-sci talk. It's not what field in physics is.
> 
> It is more like an example of a field, stresses at different points in
> a body.
> 
> >So what is a field in physics?
> 
> A map of the values for some property at every point in space.
> An example is the temperature of the air in a room. Or a weather map with
> air temperature or wind speed and direction plotted.
> 
> A disturbance in a field is something that affects or changes the field.
> Say a person in the room waving a blowtorch around is a disturbance of the
> room's temperature field.
> 
> >Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is 
> >the true meaning of a field?
> 
> He was trying to explain a science concept to non-scientists. Obviously,
> it didn’t work for you.

It works for me very well. It led me to formulate Model Mechanics, the most successful theory of physics.

> 
> >In any case, it is irrelevant what a field is in physics.
> 
> Irrelevant to you, which is just one reason why you are a failure at 
> physics.
> 
> > My theory assumes that the E-Matrix is a structured and elastic solid 
> > body occupying all of space...IOW, the E-Matrix is another name for 
> > space.
> 
> Which is yet another reason why your E-Matrix/IRT is a complete, total, 
> absolute failure.

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#479362

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-12-08 18:37 +0000
Message-ID<puh30g$p11$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#479357
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>> He was trying to explain a science concept to non-scientists. Obviously,
>> it didn't work for you.

>It works for me very poorly. It led me to formulate Model Mechanics, the 
>biggest failure in the history of physics.

There. I corrected your mistakes.

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#479381

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-12-08 20:18 +0100
Message-ID<d23c0596-0283-bee7-4567-a5ab8fc8c840@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#479357
kenseto wrote:
> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 12:52:21 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
>>> Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is 
>>> the true meaning of a field?
>> He was trying to explain a science concept to non-scientists. Obviously,
>> it didn’t work for you.
> 
> It works for me very well.

You think so because you are not competent enough to make a proper assessment.

> It led me to formulate Model Mechanics,

Your crackpot idea is not a formulation, it is a pipe dream or worse.

> the most successful theory of physics.

Show your Nobel Prize in Physics or shut up.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#479383

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-08 19:56 +0000
Message-ID<puh7l2$74i$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#479381
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
> kenseto wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 12:52:21 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
>>>> Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is 
>>>> the true meaning of a field?
>>> He was trying to explain a science concept to non-scientists. Obviously,
>>> it didn’t work for you.
>> 
>> It works for me very well.
> 
> You think so because you are not competent enough to make a proper assessment.
> 
>> It led me to formulate Model Mechanics,
> 
> Your crackpot idea is not a formulation, it is a pipe dream or worse.
> 
>> the most successful theory of physics.
> 
> Show your Nobel Prize in Physics or shut up.
> 

Ken is beyond recognizing that point. He’s too heavily invested. 

Ken’s stance is essentially this: “I, Ken Seto, have an idea of what a
physical theory should be like. What physicists think a physical idea
should be like is irrelevant. What I know is that every theory produced by
physicists so far doesn’t matter measure up to MY idea of a physical
theory. They don’t make sense, they don’t use plain language, they’re
complicated, they involve non-intuitive ideas. None of those traits should
belong to a good physical theory. On the other hand, MY theory completely
satisfies everything I think a theory should be. It is therefore in MY EYES
the most successful theory ever. And if physicists don’t agree about the
value of what I’ve produced, that’s their loss.”

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#479435

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-08 21:51 -0800
Message-ID<23230e34-986b-4f68-8040-1a7e17ecb2e3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479383
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 11:56:22 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
> > kenseto wrote:
> >> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 12:52:21 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> >>>> Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is 
> >>>> the true meaning of a field?
> >>> He was trying to explain a science concept to non-scientists. Obviously,
> >>> it didn’t work for you.
> >> 
> >> It works for me very well.
> > 
> > You think so because you are not competent enough to make a proper assessment.
> > 
> >> It led me to formulate Model Mechanics,
> > 
> > Your crackpot idea is not a formulation, it is a pipe dream or worse.
> > 
> >> the most successful theory of physics.
> > 
> > Show your Nobel Prize in Physics or shut up.
> > 
> 
> Ken is beyond recognizing that point. He’s too heavily invested. 
> 
> Ken’s stance is essentially this: “I, Ken Seto, have an idea of what a
> physical theory should be like. What physicists think a physical idea
> should be like is irrelevant. What I know is that every theory produced by
> physicists so far doesn’t matter measure up to MY idea of a physical
> theory. They don’t make sense, they don’t use plain language, they’re
> complicated, they involve non-intuitive ideas. None of those traits should
> belong to a good physical theory. On the other hand, MY theory completely
> satisfies everything I think a theory should be. It is therefore in MY EYES
> the most successful theory ever. And if physicists don’t agree about the
> value of what I’ve produced, that’s their loss.”
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

It's always the same with those types: "What I don't understand, does not count."

--
Jan

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#479462

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-12-09 08:20 -0800
Message-ID<1177fb38-7331-4f86-9664-7072aa539cfa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479383
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:56:22 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
> > kenseto wrote:
> >> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 12:52:21 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> >>>> Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is 
> >>>> the true meaning of a field?
> >>> He was trying to explain a science concept to non-scientists. Obviously,
> >>> it didn’t work for you.
> >> 
> >> It works for me very well.
> > 
> > You think so because you are not competent enough to make a proper assessment.
> > 
> >> It led me to formulate Model Mechanics,
> > 
> > Your crackpot idea is not a formulation, it is a pipe dream or worse.
> > 
> >> the most successful theory of physics.
> > 
> > Show your Nobel Prize in Physics or shut up.
> > 
> 
> Ken is beyond recognizing that point. He’s too heavily invested. 
> 
> Ken’s stance is essentially this: “I, Ken Seto, have an idea of what a
> physical theory should be like. What physicists think a physical idea
> should be like is irrelevant. What I know is that every theory produced by
> physicists so far doesn’t matter measure up to MY idea of a physical
> theory. They don’t make sense, they don’t use plain language, they’re
> complicated, they involve non-intuitive ideas. None of those traits should
> belong to a good physical theory. On the other hand, MY theory completely
> satisfies everything I think a theory should be. It is therefore in MY EYES
> the most successful theory ever. And if physicists don’t agree about the
> value of what I’ve produced, that’s their loss.”

Idiot....current theories are based on fantasy and non-existing mathematical objects. My theories are based on real material objects....that’s why they are superior theories.

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#479495

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-09 12:44 -0800
Message-ID<5ecd1df1-e740-4ee3-99ac-ab1ac90d2568@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479462
On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 8:20:47 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:56:22 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
> > > kenseto wrote:
> > >> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 12:52:21 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > >>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> > >>>> Why did Weinberg gave pop-science talk of a field different than what is 
> > >>>> the true meaning of a field?
> > >>> He was trying to explain a science concept to non-scientists. Obviously,
> > >>> it didn’t work for you.
> > >> 
> > >> It works for me very well.
> > > 
> > > You think so because you are not competent enough to make a proper assessment.
> > > 
> > >> It led me to formulate Model Mechanics,
> > > 
> > > Your crackpot idea is not a formulation, it is a pipe dream or worse.
> > > 
> > >> the most successful theory of physics.
> > > 
> > > Show your Nobel Prize in Physics or shut up.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ken is beyond recognizing that point. He’s too heavily invested. 
> > 
> > Ken’s stance is essentially this: “I, Ken Seto, have an idea of what a
> > physical theory should be like. What physicists think a physical idea
> > should be like is irrelevant. What I know is that every theory produced by
> > physicists so far doesn’t matter measure up to MY idea of a physical
> > theory. They don’t make sense, they don’t use plain language, they’re
> > complicated, they involve non-intuitive ideas. None of those traits should
> > belong to a good physical theory. On the other hand, MY theory completely
> > satisfies everything I think a theory should be. It is therefore in MY EYES
> > the most successful theory ever. And if physicists don’t agree about the
> > value of what I’ve produced, that’s their loss.”
> 
> Idiot....current theories are based on fantasy and non-existing mathematical objects.

This is simply a false statement that borders on the "not even wrong" category.

> My theories are based on real material objects....that’s why they are superior theories.

Your theories are not "superior" in any way, who do you think everyone else is?

--
Jan

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