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Another Twins Paradox

Started bypatdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>
First post2018-11-11 20:02 -0800
Last post2018-12-06 20:57 +0100
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  Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-11 20:02 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 20:23 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2018-11-12 16:04 +1100
    Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-12 06:27 +0100
      Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-12 06:43 +0100
    Imbecile Pat Dolan repeats himself "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-11 21:56 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-12 00:43 -0600
      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-12 01:04 -0800
        Pat Dolan demonstrates his cretinism "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-12 07:52 -0800
        Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-12 11:48 -0600
          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-12 19:31 -0800
            Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-12 22:55 -0600
              Re: Another Twins Paradox Shon Wible <shwn@shoowe.wh> - 2018-11-13 20:58 +0000
                Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-13 23:40 +0100
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Shon Wible <shwn@shouwe.wh> - 2018-11-13 23:51 +0000
          Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-13 10:22 -0800
            Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-16 09:58 -0600
              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-16 09:45 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-16 12:48 -0600
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-16 11:32 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-16 21:25 +0100
                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-16 12:44 -0800
                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-17 18:25 +0100
                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 11:14 -0800
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 19:35 +0000
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 11:49 -0800
                                Cretin Pad Dolan perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 12:15 -0800
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 12:35 -0800
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 13:47 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 14:04 -0800
                                      Utter cretin Patrick Dolan at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 14:27 -0800
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 15:06 -0800
                                        Patrick Dolan, total imbecile from Seattle, WA "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 19:03 -0800
                                          Re: Patrick Dolan, total imbecile from Seattle, WA pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-17 20:35 -0800
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 23:43 +0000
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-17 18:19 -0600
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 16:32 -0800
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 16:39 -0800
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 17:12 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 17:21 -0800
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 17:25 -0800
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-17 17:39 -0800
                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 21:23 -0800
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 13:57 +0000
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-18 08:24 -0800
                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 19:45 +0000
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-18 23:32 +0100
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 02:00 +0000
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-17 10:23 -0600
    Re: Another Twins Paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-12 16:08 +0000
      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-12 08:29 -0800
        Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 18:28 +0000
          Re: Another Twins Paradox "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-12 10:44 -0800
            Re: Another Twins Paradox "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-12 10:50 -0800
          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-12 19:35 -0800
            Re: Another Twins Paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-13 06:22 +0000
            Re: Another Twins Paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-13 06:33 +0000
            Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 12:35 +0000
            Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-13 12:25 -0600
        Re: Another Twins Paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-12 20:29 +0000
          Re: Another Twins Paradox Gaston Castaneda <ucpp@java4ow.nv> - 2018-11-12 21:49 +0000
            Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 17:46 -0800
              Re: Another Twins Paradox Gaston Castaneda <uucp@jav4ow.nq> - 2018-11-13 20:14 +0000
                Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-13 23:48 +0100
                Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 14:55 -0800
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Shon Wible <shwn@shoowe.wh> - 2018-11-13 23:49 +0000
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 16:00 -0800
                      Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-14 17:22 +0100
                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Shon Wible <shwn@shouwe.wh> - 2018-11-14 16:31 +0000
    Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 20:45 -0800
      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-12 23:29 -0800
        Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 01:15 -0800
        Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 13:33 +0000
        Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-13 13:05 -0600
          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-13 11:11 -0800
            Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-13 22:43 +0100
              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-13 13:57 -0800
                Cretin Pat Dolan needs to be sterilized, such that he doesn't reproduce "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-13 14:12 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-13 23:15 +0100
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-13 14:39 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-13 23:58 +0100
                    Imbecile Pat Dolan needs to be sterilized "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-13 15:04 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-13 15:01 -0800
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-13 16:02 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-13 17:38 -0800
                      Imbecile Pat Dolan needs to ne stopped from reproducing "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-13 18:19 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-14 04:29 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-13 21:22 -0600
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-13 19:45 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 21:42 -0800
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-13 20:19 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 21:43 -0800
                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-13 21:49 -0800
                        Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 22:34 -0800
                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-13 23:29 -0800
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 01:13 -0800
                          Re: Another Twins Paradox Shon Wible <shwn@shouwe.wh> - 2018-11-14 15:51 +0000
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-14 08:03 -0800
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox Shon Wible <shwn@shouwe.wh> - 2018-11-14 16:28 +0000
                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 15:07 +0000
                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-14 07:23 -0800
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 23:56 +0000
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-14 07:41 +0000
                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-14 01:49 -0800
                        Re: Another Twins Paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-14 16:35 +0000
                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-14 09:17 -0800
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Shon Wible <shwn@shouwe.wh> - 2018-11-14 18:24 +0000
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-14 11:43 -0800
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 23:56 +0000
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-14 16:32 -0800
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-14 16:55 -0800
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-15 05:22 +0000
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:57 +0000
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-15 09:31 -0800
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-15 09:37 -0800
                                        Imbecile Pat Dolan from Seattle , WA "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-15 09:44 -0800
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 18:31 +0000
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 01:46 +0000
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patd <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-14 19:14 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-14 19:29 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 03:46 +0000
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-14 21:28 -0800
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 14:02 +0000
                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-15 08:21 -0800
                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:57 +0000
                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-15 09:08 -0800
                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-15 10:46 -0800
                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 18:56 +0000
                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-15 11:00 -0800
                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 19:56 +0000
                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 20:04 +0000
                                                    Cretins Pat Dolan and Keith Stein working together "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-15 12:59 -0800
                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 01:47 +0000
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-16 20:36 +0000
          Re: Another Twins Paradox Gaston Castaneda <ucpp@java4ow.nv> - 2018-11-13 20:10 +0000
    Re: Another Twins Paradox Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 09:16 +0000
      Re: Another Twins Paradox Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 12:51 +0000
    Re: Another Twins Paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 17:10 -0800
      Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 17:52 -0800
        Re: Another Twins Paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 18:56 -0800
          Re: Another Twins Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-19 19:30 -0800
          Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 19:35 -0800
            Re: Another Twins Paradox pdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-19 20:07 -0800
              Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-20 09:44 -0600
                Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 09:32 -0800
                  Cretin Pat Dolan expresses his imbecility "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 09:37 -0800
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox PatDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 09:42 -0800
                    Cretin Pat Dolan takes it in the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 09:54 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 09:57 -0800
                      Cretin Pat Dolan inserts foot in mouth. Deeper. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 10:04 -0800
                      Re: Another Twins Paradox PatDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 10:22 -0800
                        Pathological imbecile Pat Dolan, inserts foot in mouth. Deeper. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 13:24 -0800
                      Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-20 21:53 +0100
                        Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 13:22 -0800
                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 13:30 -0800
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 13:58 -0800
                              Incurable cretin Pat Dolan from Seatlle WA "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 14:00 -0800
                          Cretin Pat Dolan perseveres in his imbecility "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 13:47 -0800
                          Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-21 12:25 -0600
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 19:00 +0000
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-21 11:11 -0800
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 19:19 +0000
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-21 22:03 -0600
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-21 23:35 -0800
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 01:02 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-22 09:17 -0800
                                      Cretin Pat Dolan at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-22 09:33 -0800
                                        Re: Cretin Pat Dolan at work JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:27 -0800
                                          Re: Cretin Pat Dolan at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-22 11:50 -0800
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 10:32 -0800
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:27 -0800
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox PatDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-22 11:46 -0800
                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 13:22 -0800
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-22 23:00 +0100
                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 14:15 -0800
                                            [OT] Family names and their pronunciation (was: Another Twins Paradox) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-23 02:37 +0100
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-22 14:28 -0600
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-22 14:25 -0600
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Elden Lathan <an@tnettw.ea> - 2018-11-22 20:44 +0000
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-22 21:11 -0600
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Elden Lathan <an@tnetvtw.ea> - 2018-11-23 16:47 +0000
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 08:59 +0000
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 01:05 -0800
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-22 18:28 +0100
                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-20 15:57 -0600
                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 14:01 -0800
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:22 -0800
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 14:35 -0800
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:50 -0800
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 15:37 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-20 16:31 -0800
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 16:50 -0800
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-20 19:32 -0800
                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 20:06 -0800
                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-20 20:13 -0800
                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:20 -0800
                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-21 15:00 -0800
                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 17:14 -0800
                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-21 04:13 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 19:24 -0800
            Re: Another Twins Paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 21:08 -0800
              Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 00:06 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-20 01:08 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 12:03 +0000
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-20 04:41 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:36 +0000
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 13:42 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 07:15 -0800
      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-18 18:34 -0800
        Re: Another Twins Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-18 19:12 -0800
        Re: Another Twins Paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 19:41 -0800
        Pat Dolan, John Y. Wang, wankers "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-18 19:48 -0800
        Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:17 +0000
      Re: Another Twins Paradox Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 06:36 +0000
        Re: Another Twins Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-19 04:34 -0800
        Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:53 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 10:13 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-22 14:30 -0800
      Re: Another Twins Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-22 14:39 -0800
      Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-22 21:07 -0600
        Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-22 21:05 -0800
          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-22 21:19 -0800
            Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-22 21:33 -0800
            Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-23 08:01 -0800
              Re: Another Twins Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 08:32 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-23 08:56 -0800
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 09:28 -0800
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 09:39 -0800
                    Cretin Pat Dolan doesn't understand basic Newtonian mechanics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 09:44 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-23 12:41 -0800
                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 13:22 -0800
                        Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-23 13:54 -0800
                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 14:04 -0800
                            Shitferbrains Pat Dolan takes another one in the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 14:45 -0800
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 15:25 -0800
                              Pathological imbecile Pat Dolan at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 16:07 -0800
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 16:25 -0800
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 16:37 -0800
                                Utter cretin Pat Dolan perseveres in his imbecility "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 16:44 -0800
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 21:22 -0800
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-23 16:49 -0800
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 17:40 -0800
                                Pat Dolan, lying POS "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 18:01 -0800
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 18:10 -0800
                                  Cretin Pat Dolan insists on taking it up the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 18:16 -0800
                                  Pat Dolan takes another kick in the behind "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 18:34 -0800
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-23 19:12 -0800
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 19:26 -0800
                                    The Pat Dolan piece of shit takes it in the pants one more time "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 19:37 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 19:55 -0800
                                      Utter cretin Pat Dolan puffs himself up, like a gasbag "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 00:02 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 21:28 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-23 23:57 -0800
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 00:31 -0800
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 14:23 +0000
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 12:05 -0800
                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 14:45 -0800
                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 21:50 -0800
                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-25 01:45 -0800
                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-26 11:00 -0800
                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 12:39 -0800
                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-26 13:00 -0800
                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 21:29 +0000
                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 14:11 -0800
                                                    Pathological Imbecile Pat Dolan keeps taking it in the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-26 14:35 -0800
                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 15:38 -0800
                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-26 16:27 -0800
                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 16:49 -0800
                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 01:33 +0000
                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-26 17:42 -0800
                                                            Stubborn cretin Pat Dolan perseveres. In his imbecility. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-26 17:49 -0800
                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 02:04 +0000
                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 20:49 -0800
                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-26 23:22 -0800
                                                        Imbecile Pat Dolan attempts to calculate. Fail. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-26 17:44 -0800
                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 18:40 -0800
                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-26 23:10 -0800
                                                            Cretin Pat Dolan perseveres in his imbecility "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 02:04 -0800
                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 02:40 -0800
                                                              Pat Dolan, a lying piece of shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 07:21 -0800
                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 05:07 -0800
                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 13:54 +0000
                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 09:56 -0800
                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 10:04 -0800
                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 10:42 -0800
                                                                    Pat Dolan = lying piece of shit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 11:03 -0800
                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 12:41 -0800
                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 14:17 -0800
                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 15:24 -0800
                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 16:16 -0800
                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 16:37 -0800
                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox Lee Primer <itoo@wodinwnc.cg> - 2018-11-28 00:47 +0000
                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 17:00 -0800
                                                                                  Pat Dolan, lying dumbshit "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 17:22 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 17:41 -0800
                                                                        Lying piece of shit Pat Dolan continues to squirm "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 16:26 -0800
                                                                Cretin Pat Dolan insists in his imbecility "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 10:21 -0800
                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 19:28 -0800
                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-27 20:12 -0800
                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 07:39 -0800
                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-28 18:46 -0800
                                                                        Pat Dolan imbecile at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-28 18:55 -0800
                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-28 19:04 -0800
                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-28 19:47 -0800
                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 15:51 +0000
                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-29 08:31 -0800
                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 21:07 -0800
                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-28 21:34 -0800
                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 22:01 -0800
                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-28 22:07 -0800
                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 22:20 -0800
                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 22:25 -0800
                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-28 23:43 -0800
                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 00:18 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-29 01:44 -0800
                                                                                Wacko Pat Dolan in need of mental help "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 06:11 -0800
                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 07:28 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 07:36 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 07:50 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 16:19 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 08:41 -0800
                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 16:19 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 08:28 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 16:49 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-29 10:52 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 09:06 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 17:24 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 09:36 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-29 12:13 -0600
                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox Lee Primer <itoo@wodinwnc.cg> - 2018-11-29 18:25 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 10:43 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-29 19:30 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-30 00:02 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox Lee Primer <itoo@wodinwnc.cg> - 2018-11-30 11:32 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Lee Primer <itoo@wodinwnc.cg> - 2018-11-30 11:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-30 13:21 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox Lee Primer <itoo@wodinwnc.cg> - 2018-11-30 20:01 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-30 12:07 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 10:43 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 10:38 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 10:53 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-29 11:03 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 11:06 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 11:34 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 11:42 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 12:28 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-29 20:52 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 12:15 -0800
                                                                                                Cretin Pat Dolan inserts foot in mouth "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 12:19 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-30 17:42 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-30 09:01 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-30 18:14 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-30 18:25 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 17:15 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-30 09:31 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 20:11 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-30 12:28 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 23:03 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 18:16 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-12-04 20:20 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-04 20:32 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-12-05 13:06 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 13:38 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-12-05 13:49 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 16:37 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-06 02:04 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-12-06 09:11 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-06 18:41 +0100
                                                                                                                  Lunatic asylum resident Pat Dolan regains his 1 hr/week computer privilege and promptly uses it to spew fresh idiocies "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-12-04 22:36 -0800
                                                                                                    Pat Dolan imbecile insers both feet in his mouth "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-30 10:19 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 19:59 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 12:25 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 13:29 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 22:27 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 20:55 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 13:24 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 22:27 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 12:29 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 21:40 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-29 16:11 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 14:17 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 14:50 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 14:50 -0800
                                                                                        Pat Dolan, natural imbecile "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 11:27 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 12:23 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 12:33 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 21:40 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 14:49 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-29 15:07 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 13:38 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 15:20 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 16:24 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 18:15 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 16:46 -0800
                                                                                                Pat Dolan sinks even lower "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 17:19 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 19:35 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 12:58 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 13:32 -0800
                                                                                            Natural cretin Pat Dolan insists "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 13:34 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 14:38 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 14:46 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-29 10:54 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 10:42 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-29 10:55 -0800
                                                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 00:12 -0800
                                                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 15:51 +0000
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 03:36 -0800
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 12:09 -0800
                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 13:07 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 15:32 +0000
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 08:02 -0800
                          Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 17:30 +0000
                            Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 09:36 -0800
                              Pat Dolan, lying POS "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 09:43 -0800
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 18:06 +0000
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 10:20 -0800
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 18:31 +0000
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 10:39 -0800
                                      Shiitforbrains Pat Dolan, Seattle, WA "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 10:56 -0800
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 19:42 +0000
                                        Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 12:48 -0800
                                          Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-25 00:20 +0000
                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 17:11 -0800
                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 18:46 -0800
                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 19:32 -0800
                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 19:36 -0800
                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 19:46 -0800
                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-25 12:43 +0000
                                            Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-25 00:46 -0800
                                              Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-25 14:35 +0000
                                                Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-26 10:50 -0800
                                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 19:23 +0000
                                      Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 19:15 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-24 11:22 -0800
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-24 19:20 +0100
                                Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-24 19:24 +0100
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 10:33 -0800
                                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-24 19:54 +0100
                                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-25 04:36 +0100
                              Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 12:47 -0800
              Re: Another Twins Paradox patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 10:14 -0800
                Pathological imbecile Pat Dolan takes it in the pants. Repeatedly. "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 10:29 -0800
          Re: Another Twins Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-22 22:07 -0800
          Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-23 00:28 -0600
            Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 01:01 -0800
              Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-26 17:56 -0600
            Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-23 07:04 -0800
              Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-24 19:06 -0600
                Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-24 17:14 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 23:35 -0800
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-26 00:11 -0600
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 09:15 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 11:24 -0800
                      Re:" PHYSICS AWARDS " Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 14:55 +0000
                        Re: " PHYSICS AWARDS " Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 15:00 +0000
                      Re: Another Twins Paradox yeurohenry@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 20:00 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 20:37 -0800
    Dumbshit Pat Dolan takes it in the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-23 07:31 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 11:29 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 11:30 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 11:30 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 11:32 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 12:11 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 14:42 -0800
      Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 14:58 -0800
        Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 15:02 -0800
        Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 03:22 +0000
          Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 19:42 -0800
            Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 20:20 -0800
              Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-29 20:37 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 20:47 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 21:37 -0800
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 21:50 -0800
                    Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2018-11-30 01:03 -0800
                      Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 13:23 +0000
                      Incurable cretin Pat Dolan itches to take it in the pants "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-30 07:24 -0800
                Re: Another Twins Paradox Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-11-30 03:44 -0800
                  Re: Another Twins Paradox patdolan@comcast.net - 2018-11-30 07:36 -0800
                    Insane patient Pat Dolan at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-30 07:58 -0800
                      Re: Insane patient Pat Dolan at work Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 16:18 +0000
                        Re: Insane patient Pat Dolan at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-11-30 08:40 -0800
            Re: Another Twins Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 13:22 +0000
    Re: Another Twins Paradox carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 15:09 -0800
    Re: Another Twins Paradox Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-12-06 20:57 +0100

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#477375

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-17 17:25 -0800
Message-ID<99504c79-cef7-467a-b86b-9375f312e661@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477373
On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:21:18 PM UTC-8, patDolan wrote:
> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:32:14 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:20:05 PM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
> > > > > On 11/17/18 1:14 PM, patdolan wrote:
> > > > > > I have provided the calculations within the theory that prove my
> > > > > > case.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Not true. You have provided FANTASIES that are outside of any physical
> > > > > theory.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > So by the rules of science I have won.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There are no such "rules", and no winners or losers. You are DELUSIONAL.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I have invalidated Relativity.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No. You have merely invalidated your personal FANTASIES.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I've done something really, really bad to relativity
> > > > > 
> > > > > No. You've only done something really, really bad to your personal
> > > > > reputation (except you never had one around here).
> > > > > 
> > > > > > There is simply no way out for you or the rest without CALCULATING
> > > > > > that in fact F_grav = F_centrifugal for both Fire and Ice.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is more delusion and fantasy -- there are no such quantities in GR, 
> > > > > and that is the theory one must use.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	This is going nowhere. Goodbye.
> > > > 
> > > > It's weird (and _very slightly_ frightening, actually) that people like Pat can in clear
> > > > conscience continue like that. Any normal person would have seen, several posts
> > > > ago, that he simply does not possess the knowledge to continue the exchange.
> > > > Strange, it's like an instinct that's just completely gone or non-functional.
> > > > 
> > > > Most people on this NG are like that: a very narrow but very deep blind spot in
> > > > their thinking.
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Jan
> > > 
> > > Thanks Tom and Jan.  Your respective rage and fear,
> > 
> > See, you are doing it again: EVERYTHING, except the truth. Just blame EVERYONE
> > else for everything. While you are at it, you impute the feelings of "rage and fear" which
> > is something you very dearly want to see in your opponents but, sadly, are merely
> > yet another fantasy of yours.
> > 
> > > along with your complete inability to counter-calculate tells me that I've really got something here...a world class paradox...now how in the hell to monetize it...hmm...
> > 
> > I have the ability to calculate this, it's basic stuff, but I have no inclination or patience
> > precisely because it's going to be a 100% wasted effort on you: you simply won't
> > understand my solution.
> > 
> > Yet sometimes I do respond to taunts like this, I have several detailed calculations
> > on various topics posted on Google Drive, but I do it only if I see someone ELSE
> > may be interested in this sort of thing, specifically someone who CAN understand
> > the argument and does not use illogic and fantasies as an argument.
> > 
> > --
> > Jan
> 
> I should have known.  All these years I thought you were male.

You are getting off the deep end now. Yes, I am male ("Jan" means "John").

> I will soften my tone.  As for interest in your solution, there are a lot more here than just me.  Dono for one.  Bodkin for another.  Hell...I mean hec...every single soul who has read the tale I've my two boys, Fire and Ice, is dying to see a calculation where upon they both agree, or can at least reconcile the equality of forces (or imaginary forces in the case of GR) acting on the solar system.

This is a standard problem for a (genuine) student. Why you make it into such a big
deal is anyone's guess.

> But this thirst for resolution doesn't interest you, does it Jan.  Or is that, like all the rest, you just can't do it.  Go ahead, try and pull Albert's Xcalibur from my stone.

Why should I waste my time?

--
Jan

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#477376

Frompatdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>
Date2018-11-17 17:39 -0800
Message-ID<f06035e9-0688-42d1-b9ff-5ef040f2eb24@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477375
On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:25:31 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:21:18 PM UTC-8, patDolan wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:32:14 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:20:05 PM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
> > > > > > On 11/17/18 1:14 PM, patdolan wrote:
> > > > > > > I have provided the calculations within the theory that prove my
> > > > > > > case.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Not true. You have provided FANTASIES that are outside of any physical
> > > > > > theory.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So by the rules of science I have won.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There are no such "rules", and no winners or losers. You are DELUSIONAL.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I have invalidated Relativity.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > No. You have merely invalidated your personal FANTASIES.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I've done something really, really bad to relativity
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > No. You've only done something really, really bad to your personal
> > > > > > reputation (except you never had one around here).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There is simply no way out for you or the rest without CALCULATING
> > > > > > > that in fact F_grav = F_centrifugal for both Fire and Ice.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is more delusion and fantasy -- there are no such quantities in GR, 
> > > > > > and that is the theory one must use.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	This is going nowhere. Goodbye.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's weird (and _very slightly_ frightening, actually) that people like Pat can in clear
> > > > > conscience continue like that. Any normal person would have seen, several posts
> > > > > ago, that he simply does not possess the knowledge to continue the exchange.
> > > > > Strange, it's like an instinct that's just completely gone or non-functional.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Most people on this NG are like that: a very narrow but very deep blind spot in
> > > > > their thinking.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jan
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks Tom and Jan.  Your respective rage and fear,
> > > 
> > > See, you are doing it again: EVERYTHING, except the truth. Just blame EVERYONE
> > > else for everything. While you are at it, you impute the feelings of "rage and fear" which
> > > is something you very dearly want to see in your opponents but, sadly, are merely
> > > yet another fantasy of yours.
> > > 
> > > > along with your complete inability to counter-calculate tells me that I've really got something here...a world class paradox...now how in the hell to monetize it...hmm...
> > > 
> > > I have the ability to calculate this, it's basic stuff, but I have no inclination or patience
> > > precisely because it's going to be a 100% wasted effort on you: you simply won't
> > > understand my solution.
> > > 
> > > Yet sometimes I do respond to taunts like this, I have several detailed calculations
> > > on various topics posted on Google Drive, but I do it only if I see someone ELSE
> > > may be interested in this sort of thing, specifically someone who CAN understand
> > > the argument and does not use illogic and fantasies as an argument.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Jan
> > 
> > I should have known.  All these years I thought you were male.
> 
> You are getting off the deep end now. Yes, I am male ("Jan" means "John").
> 
> > I will soften my tone.  As for interest in your solution, there are a lot more here than just me.  Dono for one.  Bodkin for another.  Hell...I mean hec...every single soul who has read the tale I've my two boys, Fire and Ice, is dying to see a calculation where upon they both agree, or can at least reconcile the equality of forces (or imaginary forces in the case of GR) acting on the solar system.
> 
> This is a standard problem for a (genuine) student. Why you make it into such a big
> deal is anyone's guess.
> 
> > But this thirst for resolution doesn't interest you, does it Jan.  Or is that, like all the rest, you just can't do it.  Go ahead, try and pull Albert's Xcalibur from my stone.
> 
> Why should I waste my time?
> 
> --
> Jan

Sorry about the misgendering.  

Either you can type calculations to me or you can type just words.  Who is wasting whose time, Sir Jan? 

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#477393

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-17 21:23 -0800
Message-ID<a476de61-e20a-450a-9824-837c533f284c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477376
On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:39:31 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:25:31 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:21:18 PM UTC-8, patDolan wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:32:14 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:20:05 PM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
> > > > > > > On 11/17/18 1:14 PM, patdolan wrote:
> > > > > > > > I have provided the calculations within the theory that prove my
> > > > > > > > case.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Not true. You have provided FANTASIES that are outside of any physical
> > > > > > > theory.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So by the rules of science I have won.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There are no such "rules", and no winners or losers. You are DELUSIONAL.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I have invalidated Relativity.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > No. You have merely invalidated your personal FANTASIES.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I've done something really, really bad to relativity
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > No. You've only done something really, really bad to your personal
> > > > > > > reputation (except you never had one around here).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > There is simply no way out for you or the rest without CALCULATING
> > > > > > > > that in fact F_grav = F_centrifugal for both Fire and Ice.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This is more delusion and fantasy -- there are no such quantities in GR, 
> > > > > > > and that is the theory one must use.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 	This is going nowhere. Goodbye.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's weird (and _very slightly_ frightening, actually) that people like Pat can in clear
> > > > > > conscience continue like that. Any normal person would have seen, several posts
> > > > > > ago, that he simply does not possess the knowledge to continue the exchange.
> > > > > > Strange, it's like an instinct that's just completely gone or non-functional.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Most people on this NG are like that: a very narrow but very deep blind spot in
> > > > > > their thinking.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jan
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks Tom and Jan.  Your respective rage and fear,
> > > > 
> > > > See, you are doing it again: EVERYTHING, except the truth. Just blame EVERYONE
> > > > else for everything. While you are at it, you impute the feelings of "rage and fear" which
> > > > is something you very dearly want to see in your opponents but, sadly, are merely
> > > > yet another fantasy of yours.
> > > > 
> > > > > along with your complete inability to counter-calculate tells me that I've really got something here...a world class paradox...now how in the hell to monetize it...hmm...
> > > > 
> > > > I have the ability to calculate this, it's basic stuff, but I have no inclination or patience
> > > > precisely because it's going to be a 100% wasted effort on you: you simply won't
> > > > understand my solution.
> > > > 
> > > > Yet sometimes I do respond to taunts like this, I have several detailed calculations
> > > > on various topics posted on Google Drive, but I do it only if I see someone ELSE
> > > > may be interested in this sort of thing, specifically someone who CAN understand
> > > > the argument and does not use illogic and fantasies as an argument.
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Jan
> > > 
> > > I should have known.  All these years I thought you were male.
> > 
> > You are getting off the deep end now. Yes, I am male ("Jan" means "John").
> > 
> > > I will soften my tone.  As for interest in your solution, there are a lot more here than just me.  Dono for one.  Bodkin for another.  Hell...I mean hec...every single soul who has read the tale I've my two boys, Fire and Ice, is dying to see a calculation where upon they both agree, or can at least reconcile the equality of forces (or imaginary forces in the case of GR) acting on the solar system.
> > 
> > This is a standard problem for a (genuine) student. Why you make it into such a big
> > deal is anyone's guess.
> > 
> > > But this thirst for resolution doesn't interest you, does it Jan.  Or is that, like all the rest, you just can't do it.  Go ahead, try and pull Albert's Xcalibur from my stone.
> > 
> > Why should I waste my time?
> > 
> > --
> > Jan
> 
> Sorry about the misgendering.  
> 
> Either you can type calculations to me or you can type just words.  Who is wasting whose time, Sir Jan?

No, it's not any "either". In your dreams perhaps. I have already told you twice that
the reason is the door number three: I simply don't feel like doing the calculation
for you. Experience of past 20 years tells me this would be a wasted effort.

Maybe I'm wrong but, oh, the odds :-)

--
Jan

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#477403

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-18 13:57 +0000
Message-ID<psrr4o$2c1$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#477373
patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
>> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
>>> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:32:14 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:20:05 PM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
>>>>> On 11/17/18 1:14 PM, patdolan wrote:
>>>>>> I have provided the calculations within the theory that prove my
>>>>>> case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not true. You have provided FANTASIES that are outside of any physical
>>>>> theory.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> So by the rules of science I have won.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are no such "rules", and no winners or losers. You are DELUSIONAL.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have invalidated Relativity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No. You have merely invalidated your personal FANTASIES.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've done something really, really bad to relativity
>>>>> 
>>>>> No. You've only done something really, really bad to your personal
>>>>> reputation (except you never had one around here).
>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is simply no way out for you or the rest without CALCULATING
>>>>>> that in fact F_grav = F_centrifugal for both Fire and Ice.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is more delusion and fantasy -- there are no such quantities in GR, 
>>>>> and that is the theory one must use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is going nowhere. Goodbye.
>>>> 
>>>> It's weird (and _very slightly_ frightening, actually) that people like Pat can in clear
>>>> conscience continue like that. Any normal person would have seen, several posts
>>>> ago, that he simply does not possess the knowledge to continue the exchange.
>>>> Strange, it's like an instinct that's just completely gone or non-functional.
>>>> 
>>>> Most people on this NG are like that: a very narrow but very deep blind spot in
>>>> their thinking.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> Thanks Tom and Jan.  Your respective rage and fear,
>> 
>> See, you are doing it again: EVERYTHING, except the truth. Just blame EVERYONE
>> else for everything. While you are at it, you impute the feelings of "rage and fear" which
>> is something you very dearly want to see in your opponents but, sadly, are merely
>> yet another fantasy of yours.
>> 
>>> along with your complete inability to counter-calculate tells me that
>>> I've really got something here...a world class paradox...now how in the
>>> hell to monetize it...hmm...
>> 
>> I have the ability to calculate this, it's basic stuff, but I have no
>> inclination or patience
>> precisely because it's going to be a 100% wasted effort on you: you simply won't
>> understand my solution.
>> 
>> Yet sometimes I do respond to taunts like this, I have several detailed calculations
>> on various topics posted on Google Drive, but I do it only if I see someone ELSE
>> may be interested in this sort of thing, specifically someone who CAN understand
>> the argument and does not use illogic and fantasies as an argument.
>> 
>> --
>> Jan
> 
> I should have known.  All these years I thought you were male.  I will
> soften my tone.  As for interest in your solution, there are a lot more
> here than just me.  Dono for one.  Bodkin for another.  Hell...I mean
> hec...every single soul who has read the tale I've my two boys, Fire and
> Ice, is dying to see a calculation where upon they both agree, or can at
> least reconcile the equality of forces (or imaginary forces in the case
> of GR) acting on the solar system.  But this thirst for resolution
> doesn't interest you, does it Jan.  Or is that, like all the rest, you
> just can't do it.  Go ahead, try and pull Albert's Xcalibur from my stone.
> 

Yes I read your post. If this is the only act you need to feel your
existence validated, if the only thing that you’re really battling is
invisibility, then you’ve accomplished what matters to you. On the other
hand, you could just go downtown and drop trousers with the same effect. 

But in terms of accomplishing something in physics, you’re off your nut.
But instead, you say, “They’re laughing at me so I must be right,” the true
hallmark of a desperate attention whore. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#477407

Frompatdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>
Date2018-11-18 08:24 -0800
Message-ID<922de003-987b-4c3a-adf2-4ec7a3d5b104@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#477403
On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 5:57:48 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> patDolan <patdolan> wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> >> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:32:14 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:20:05 PM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
> >>>>> On 11/17/18 1:14 PM, patdolan wrote:
> >>>>>> I have provided the calculations within the theory that prove my
> >>>>>> case.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Not true. You have provided FANTASIES that are outside of any physical
> >>>>> theory.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> So by the rules of science I have won.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> There are no such "rules", and no winners or losers. You are DELUSIONAL.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> I have invalidated Relativity.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> No. You have merely invalidated your personal FANTASIES.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> I've done something really, really bad to relativity
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> No. You've only done something really, really bad to your personal
> >>>>> reputation (except you never had one around here).
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> There is simply no way out for you or the rest without CALCULATING
> >>>>>> that in fact F_grav = F_centrifugal for both Fire and Ice.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> This is more delusion and fantasy -- there are no such quantities in GR, 
> >>>>> and that is the theory one must use.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> This is going nowhere. Goodbye.
> >>>> 
> >>>> It's weird (and _very slightly_ frightening, actually) that people like Pat can in clear
> >>>> conscience continue like that. Any normal person would have seen, several posts
> >>>> ago, that he simply does not possess the knowledge to continue the exchange.
> >>>> Strange, it's like an instinct that's just completely gone or non-functional.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Most people on this NG are like that: a very narrow but very deep blind spot in
> >>>> their thinking.
> >>>> 
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jan
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks Tom and Jan.  Your respective rage and fear,
> >> 
> >> See, you are doing it again: EVERYTHING, except the truth. Just blame EVERYONE
> >> else for everything. While you are at it, you impute the feelings of "rage and fear" which
> >> is something you very dearly want to see in your opponents but, sadly, are merely
> >> yet another fantasy of yours.
> >> 
> >>> along with your complete inability to counter-calculate tells me that
> >>> I've really got something here...a world class paradox...now how in the
> >>> hell to monetize it...hmm...
> >> 
> >> I have the ability to calculate this, it's basic stuff, but I have no
> >> inclination or patience
> >> precisely because it's going to be a 100% wasted effort on you: you simply won't
> >> understand my solution.
> >> 
> >> Yet sometimes I do respond to taunts like this, I have several detailed calculations
> >> on various topics posted on Google Drive, but I do it only if I see someone ELSE
> >> may be interested in this sort of thing, specifically someone who CAN understand
> >> the argument and does not use illogic and fantasies as an argument.
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Jan
> > 
> > I should have known.  All these years I thought you were male.  I will
> > soften my tone.  As for interest in your solution, there are a lot more
> > here than just me.  Dono for one.  Bodkin for another.  Hell...I mean
> > hec...every single soul who has read the tale I've my two boys, Fire and
> > Ice, is dying to see a calculation where upon they both agree, or can at
> > least reconcile the equality of forces (or imaginary forces in the case
> > of GR) acting on the solar system.  But this thirst for resolution
> > doesn't interest you, does it Jan.  Or is that, like all the rest, you
> > just can't do it.  Go ahead, try and pull Albert's Xcalibur from my stone.
> > 
> 
> Yes I read your post. If this is the only act you need to feel your
> existence validated, if the only thing that you’re really battling is
> invisibility, then you’ve accomplished what matters to you. On the other
> hand, you could just go downtown and drop trousers with the same effect. 
> 
> But in terms of accomplishing something in physics, you’re off your nut.
> But instead, you say, “They’re laughing at me so I must be right,” the true
> hallmark of a desperate attention whore. 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Bodkin, forget about me.  Are you not the least bit interested in the quantitive, numerical resolution of this paradox?  You would be doing Science and the World a huge favor by destroying it in it's infancy before it takes hold and grows to an adulthood that could live for hundreds of years.  Then it would be you and not me who is famous.  And wouldn't it feel good to put me in my place once and for all.  Again, not for me, but for you.  You seem to me to be a person who hasn't felt good in a long, long, long time.  Think about it Bodkin, think about it.

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#477424

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-18 19:45 +0000
Message-ID<pssfha$16ac$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#477407
patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 5:57:48 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> patDolan <patdolan> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:32:14 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:20:05 PM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/17/18 1:14 PM, patdolan wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have provided the calculations within the theory that prove my
>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Not true. You have provided FANTASIES that are outside of any physical
>>>>>>> theory.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So by the rules of science I have won.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are no such "rules", and no winners or losers. You are DELUSIONAL.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have invalidated Relativity.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No. You have merely invalidated your personal FANTASIES.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've done something really, really bad to relativity
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No. You've only done something really, really bad to your personal
>>>>>>> reputation (except you never had one around here).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There is simply no way out for you or the rest without CALCULATING
>>>>>>>> that in fact F_grav = F_centrifugal for both Fire and Ice.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is more delusion and fantasy -- there are no such quantities in GR, 
>>>>>>> and that is the theory one must use.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is going nowhere. Goodbye.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's weird (and _very slightly_ frightening, actually) that people
>>>>>> like Pat can in clear
>>>>>> conscience continue like that. Any normal person would have seen, several posts
>>>>>> ago, that he simply does not possess the knowledge to continue the exchange.
>>>>>> Strange, it's like an instinct that's just completely gone or non-functional.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Most people on this NG are like that: a very narrow but very deep blind spot in
>>>>>> their thinking.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Tom and Jan.  Your respective rage and fear,
>>>> 
>>>> See, you are doing it again: EVERYTHING, except the truth. Just blame EVERYONE
>>>> else for everything. While you are at it, you impute the feelings of
>>>> "rage and fear" which
>>>> is something you very dearly want to see in your opponents but, sadly, are merely
>>>> yet another fantasy of yours.
>>>> 
>>>>> along with your complete inability to counter-calculate tells me that
>>>>> I've really got something here...a world class paradox...now how in the
>>>>> hell to monetize it...hmm...
>>>> 
>>>> I have the ability to calculate this, it's basic stuff, but I have no
>>>> inclination or patience
>>>> precisely because it's going to be a 100% wasted effort on you: you simply won't
>>>> understand my solution.
>>>> 
>>>> Yet sometimes I do respond to taunts like this, I have several detailed calculations
>>>> on various topics posted on Google Drive, but I do it only if I see someone ELSE
>>>> may be interested in this sort of thing, specifically someone who CAN understand
>>>> the argument and does not use illogic and fantasies as an argument.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> I should have known.  All these years I thought you were male.  I will
>>> soften my tone.  As for interest in your solution, there are a lot more
>>> here than just me.  Dono for one.  Bodkin for another.  Hell...I mean
>>> hec...every single soul who has read the tale I've my two boys, Fire and
>>> Ice, is dying to see a calculation where upon they both agree, or can at
>>> least reconcile the equality of forces (or imaginary forces in the case
>>> of GR) acting on the solar system.  But this thirst for resolution
>>> doesn't interest you, does it Jan.  Or is that, like all the rest, you
>>> just can't do it.  Go ahead, try and pull Albert's Xcalibur from my stone.
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes I read your post. If this is the only act you need to feel your
>> existence validated, if the only thing that you’re really battling is
>> invisibility, then you’ve accomplished what matters to you. On the other
>> hand, you could just go downtown and drop trousers with the same effect. 
>> 
>> But in terms of accomplishing something in physics, you’re off your nut.
>> But instead, you say, “They’re laughing at me so I must be right,” the true
>> hallmark of a desperate attention whore. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> Bodkin, forget about me.  Are you not the least bit interested in the
> quantitive, numerical resolution of this paradox?  You would be doing
> Science and the World a huge favor by destroying it in it's infancy
> before it takes hold and grows to an adulthood that could live for hundreds of years.  

How about if it’s ignored and left you being the only one alive declaring
how earth shaking it is?

> Then it would be you and not me who is famous.  And wouldn't it feel good
> to put me in my place once and for all.  

Dude. You’re not worth the attention. 

> Again, not for me, but for you.  You seem to me to be a person who hasn't
> felt good in a long, long, long time.  Think about it Bodkin, think about it.
> 

I’m fine. You’re the one groping for attention in an area you know nothing
about. 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#477441

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-11-18 23:32 +0100
Message-ID<8a020025-a061-5f53-5c5b-7d76d7e7a5ed@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#477329
patdolan wrote on 17.11.2018 20:14:
> T and T, I have provided the calculations within the theory that prove my case.

You have done nothing of the sort.

All you have accomplished is to present yourself as a wannabe who does not
even know how to post properly.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#477299

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-17 02:00 +0000
Message-ID<psnsnp$4vo$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#477261
patDolan <patdolan@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 10:48:55 AM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
>> On 11/16/18 11:45 AM, patdolan wrote:
>>> [to me] tell us how you think that by simply moving (first away from
>>> and then) towards the solar system at .9c Ice can affect his twin
>>> brother Fire's rate of biological aging.
>> 
>> He doesn't.
>> 
>> (What is affected by Ice's travels is how Ice sees or
>> measures his brother's age, not his brother's age itself.)
>> 
>> I'm not the one who claimed that Ice's trip caused the earth to crash 
>> into the sun, YOU ARE. You need to support that nonsensical claim.
>> 
>> Tom Roberts
> 
> Okay, we'll use your semantics then.  Ice's velocity affects how he
> measures Fire's age also.  But what you are failing to appreciate is that
> at the same time Ice's velocity also affects how Ice measures the earth's
> orbital period.  But Ice's velocity does not affect how Ice measures the
> spacetime curvature in the region of the solar system.
> 
> Also please remember that Fermilab's Don Lincoln absolutely assures us
> that the spacetime curvature in the region of the solar system is not
> sufficiently warped to invalidate special relativity.  

In THAT application. What about this do you not understand?

> Fermilab proves this, he claims, every two seconds.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#477322

FromTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2018-11-17 10:23 -0600
Message-ID<4fidnTXo_fAM3W3GnZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#477261
On 11/16/18 1:32 PM, patDolan wrote:
> Okay, we'll use your semantics then.

As Thomas Lahn said, "This is not a matter of semantics.  It is a matter
of concepts, and of your confusing them."

> Ice's velocity affects how he measures Fire's age also.

Yes.

> But what you are failing to appreciate is that at the same time Ice's
> velocity also affects how Ice measures the earth's orbital period.

And more importantly, how he measures earth's speed relative to himself 
-- that is 0.9 c and is ENORMOUS compared to earth's orbital speed.

> But Ice's velocity does not affect how Ice measures the spacetime
> curvature in the region of the solar system.

Yes. The fact that he measures a non-zero value means he must apply GR, 
not SR.

> Ice now measures the coils per light year for the helical world line
> of the earth to be just too damned few, given the curvature in the
> region of the solar system, to keep the earth's and the sun's world
> lines from intersecting within three light months.

You forgot to account for earth's relative speed of 0.9 c. Your 
"conclusion" is just plain wrong.

> Also please remember that Fermilab's Don Lincoln absolutely assures 
> us that the spacetime curvature in the region of the solar system is 
> not sufficiently warped to invalidate special relativity.  Fermilab 
> proves this, he claims, every two seconds.

This applies to the phenomena Fermilab measures. It does NOT apply to 
your scenario, which INHERENTLY depends on GR and the curvature of 
spacetime, because it includes earth's ORBIT.

Give it up. You are too stupid and ignorant to apply SR or GR correctly. 
To do that you must STUDY. A LOT.

Tom Roberts

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#476872

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-11-12 16:08 +0000
Message-ID<psc8hb$rpk$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#476844
<snip rambling, babbling pseudo-SR story>

I only skimmed about 2/3s of this so I don't know exactly where you
misinterpreted SR and went flying off into the weeds, however I will state
this: SR (and Newtonian mechanics) NEVER claim anyone can affect anyone
else merely by observing them.  NEVER.  Saying that "Ice" caused Earth to
spiral into the sun by watching Earth while approaching it at 0.9c is
totally ABSURD.  Your story has a major flaw in its physics/math. Find it
and fix it.

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#476874

Frompatdolan@comcast.net
Date2018-11-12 08:29 -0800
Message-ID<7631cd3f-9bac-430b-8048-122aabfa271f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#476872
On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 8:08:13 AM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote:
> <snip rambling, babbling pseudo-SR story>
> 
> I only skimmed about 2/3s of this so I don't know exactly where you
> misinterpreted SR and went flying off into the weeds, however I will state
> this: SR (and Newtonian mechanics) NEVER claim anyone can affect anyone
> else merely by observing them.  NEVER.  Saying that "Ice" caused Earth to
> spiral into the sun by watching Earth while approaching it at 0.9c is
> totally ABSURD.  Your story has a major flaw in its physics/math. Find it
> and fix it.

Well! Michael Maroney, thanks for the input.  Of course this is a reductio ad absurdum argument which means it is meant to demonstrate the impossibility of holding that relativity is true AND Newton's law of gravitation is also true.  And I did find the flaws...IN RELATIVITY!   Now my boy, here is YOUR challenge:  

YOU find the flaws and YOU fix them, thereby saving relativity.  Because if you don't, Relativity is forever destroyed in logic's blender.  Never to be put together again.  Is that worth your a little effort on your part?

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#476893

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-12 18:28 +0000
Message-ID<pscgov$1o5n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#476874
<patdolan@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 8:08:13 AM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> <snip rambling, babbling pseudo-SR story>
>> 
>> I only skimmed about 2/3s of this so I don't know exactly where you
>> misinterpreted SR and went flying off into the weeds, however I will state
>> this: SR (and Newtonian mechanics) NEVER claim anyone can affect anyone
>> else merely by observing them.  NEVER.  Saying that "Ice" caused Earth to
>> spiral into the sun by watching Earth while approaching it at 0.9c is
>> totally ABSURD.  Your story has a major flaw in its physics/math. Find it
>> and fix it.
> 
> Well! Michael Maroney, thanks for the input.  Of course this is a
> reductio ad absurdum argument which means it is meant to demonstrate the
> impossibility of holding that relativity is true AND Newton's law of
> gravitation is also true.  

This was known in 1907. Congratulations. 

Newton’s law of gravitation was quickly replaced for that reason. 

> And I did find the flaws...IN RELATIVITY!   Now my boy, here is YOUR challenge:  
> 
> YOU find the flaws and YOU fix them, thereby saving relativity.  Because
> if you don't, Relativity is forever destroyed in logic's blender.  Never
> to be put together again.  Is that worth your a little effort on your part?
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#476897

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-11-12 10:44 -0800
Message-ID<dacc8c44-e7e5-4a60-8bc0-42ae9e3982ce@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#476893
Odd Bodkin escrito 
.   

This was known in 1907. Congratulations. 

Newton’s law of gravitation was quickly replaced for that reason. 

Photons are not Quantized
Gravity is not Quantized 

Space Time “is Quantized”

Only parameters necessary for Quantization are Pressure & Density 

((c^7/(hbar*G^2))*hbar^3/c)^(1/4)*planck length = hbar

Hbar = Quantization 

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#476900

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-11-12 10:50 -0800
Message-ID<01de0537-486e-4e09-9f55-9baaed3424c9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#476897
Odd Bodkin escrito 
.   

This was known in 1907. Congratulations. 

Newton’s law of gravitation was quickly replaced for that reason. 

Photons are not Quantized 
Gravity is not Quantized 

Space Time “is Quantized” 

Only parameters necessary for Quantization are Pressure & Density 

 ((c^7/(hbar*G^2))*(planck length)^4/c) = hbar

Hbar = Quantization

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#476944

Frompatdolan@comcast.net
Date2018-11-12 19:35 -0800
Message-ID<e1c19182-e0f4-42c5-8d5a-73515f1abfb4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#476893
On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 10:28:51 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <patdolan> wrote:
> > On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 8:08:13 AM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> <snip rambling, babbling pseudo-SR story>
> >> 
> >> I only skimmed about 2/3s of this so I don't know exactly where you
> >> misinterpreted SR and went flying off into the weeds, however I will state
> >> this: SR (and Newtonian mechanics) NEVER claim anyone can affect anyone
> >> else merely by observing them.  NEVER.  Saying that "Ice" caused Earth to
> >> spiral into the sun by watching Earth while approaching it at 0.9c is
> >> totally ABSURD.  Your story has a major flaw in its physics/math. Find it
> >> and fix it.
> > 
> > Well! Michael Maroney, thanks for the input.  Of course this is a
> > reductio ad absurdum argument which means it is meant to demonstrate the
> > impossibility of holding that relativity is true AND Newton's law of
> > gravitation is also true.  
> 
> This was known in 1907. Congratulations. 
> 
> Newton’s law of gravitation was quickly replaced for that reason. 
> 
> > And I did find the flaws...IN RELATIVITY!   Now my boy, here is YOUR challenge:  
> > 
> > YOU find the flaws and YOU fix them, thereby saving relativity.  Because
> > if you don't, Relativity is forever destroyed in logic's blender.  Never
> > to be put together again.  Is that worth your a little effort on your part?
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Bodkin you dirty dog.  You will not rob me of this greatest of smack downs of SR.  No way.  Go to the library.  Right now!  And get me the title, volume, date and pages of the journal or paper in which the Dolan Paradox was first written before I conceived it.

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#476949

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-11-13 06:22 +0000
Message-ID<psdqjg$p0c$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#476944
patdolan@comcast.net writes:

>Bodkin you dirty dog.  You will not rob me of this greatest of smack 
>downs of SR.  No way.  Go to the library.  Right now!  And get me the 
>title, volume, date and pages of the journal or paper in which the Dolan 
>Paradox was first written before I conceived it.

The Crackpot Index
John Baez

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html

25. 20 points for naming something after yourself. (E.g., talking about 
the "The Evans Field Equation" when your name happens to be Evans.) 

(yes, I know he has earned LOADS more points. I just like this one for
some reason)

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#476950

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-11-13 06:33 +0000
Message-ID<psdr7n$p0c$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#476944
patdolan@comcast.net writes:

>Bodkin you dirty dog.  You will not rob me of this greatest of smack 
>downs of SR.  No way.  Go to the library.  Right now!  And get me the 
>title, volume, date and pages of the journal or paper in which the Dolan 
>Paradox was first written before I conceived it.

p.s.
That is YOUR responsibility, something you should have already done when
researching your claims. It is not Odd's responsibility to correct every
single ko0k that wanders his way so don't tell him what he has to do.
He'll likely just tell YOU to get to a library anyway.

But since I'm a nice guy, I'll help you. Look for something dated 1915 by
an author whose last name begins with "E".

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#476960

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-13 12:35 +0000
Message-ID<psegdt$tu2$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#476944
<patdolan@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 10:28:51 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <patdolan> wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 8:08:13 AM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> <snip rambling, babbling pseudo-SR story>
>>>> 
>>>> I only skimmed about 2/3s of this so I don't know exactly where you
>>>> misinterpreted SR and went flying off into the weeds, however I will state
>>>> this: SR (and Newtonian mechanics) NEVER claim anyone can affect anyone
>>>> else merely by observing them.  NEVER.  Saying that "Ice" caused Earth to
>>>> spiral into the sun by watching Earth while approaching it at 0.9c is
>>>> totally ABSURD.  Your story has a major flaw in its physics/math. Find it
>>>> and fix it.
>>> 
>>> Well! Michael Maroney, thanks for the input.  Of course this is a
>>> reductio ad absurdum argument which means it is meant to demonstrate the
>>> impossibility of holding that relativity is true AND Newton's law of
>>> gravitation is also true.  
>> 
>> This was known in 1907. Congratulations. 
>> 
>> Newton’s law of gravitation was quickly replaced for that reason. 
>> 
>>> And I did find the flaws...IN RELATIVITY!   Now my boy, here is YOUR challenge:  
>>> 
>>> YOU find the flaws and YOU fix them, thereby saving relativity.  Because
>>> if you don't, Relativity is forever destroyed in logic's blender.  Never
>>> to be put together again.  Is that worth your a little effort on your part?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> Bodkin you dirty dog.  You will not rob me of this greatest of smack downs of SR.  

It’s not a smack down of SR. It’s a smack down of Newtonian gravity. I just
told you that. Can’t you read?

> No way.  Go to the library.  Right now!  And get me the title, volume,
> date and pages of the journal or paper in which the Dolan Paradox was
> first written before I conceived it.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#476982

FromTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2018-11-13 12:25 -0600
Message-ID<qtidnfmiadyNinbGnZ2dnUU7_81i4p2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#476944
On 11/12/18 9:35 PM, patdolan@comcast.net wrote:
> [...] this greatest of smack downs of SR. [...]

This is not a smack down of SR, it is a smack down of PAT DOLAN'S 
PERSONAL FANTASIES.

Tom Roberts

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#476919

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-11-12 20:29 +0000
Message-ID<pscns3$nn3$5@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#476874
patdolan@comcast.net writes:

>On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 8:08:13 AM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> <snip rambling, babbling pseudo-SR story>

>> I only skimmed about 2/3s of this so I don't know exactly where you
>> misinterpreted SR and went flying off into the weeds, however I will state
>> this: SR (and Newtonian mechanics) NEVER claim anyone can affect anyone
>> else merely by observing them.  NEVER.  Saying that "Ice" caused Earth to
>> spiral into the sun by watching Earth while approaching it at 0.9c is
>> totally ABSURD.  Your story has a major flaw in its physics/math. Find it
>> and fix it.

>Well! Michael Maroney, thanks for the input.  Of course this is a reductio
>ad absurdum argument which means it is meant to demonstrate the 
>impossibility of holding that relativity is true AND Newton's law of 
>gravitation is also true.

Well, yeah, which is why Einstein later came up with GR. The flaw is that
Newtonian mechanics is NOT true and GR replaced it.  Newtonian mechanics
can still be used as an approximation in many cases, however.

>Now my boy, here is YOUR challenge:
>YOU find the flaws and YOU fix them, thereby saving relativity.

Sorry, but that Einstein fellow beat me to it by over 100 years.

> you don't, Relativity is forever destroyed in logic's blender.  Never to 
>be put together again.  Is that worth your a little effort on your part?

I also don't pursue the bizarre fantasies of the pseudoscientists.

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