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| Started by | Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-11-01 14:43 -0700 |
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E=mc2 Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 14:43 -0700
Re: E=mc2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 22:55 +0000
E=mc2 "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-01 16:04 -0700
Re: E=mc2 "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-02 09:21 -0700
Re: E=mc2 "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-02 09:52 -0700
Re: E=mc2 "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-02 15:28 -0700
Re: E=mc2 Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 17:53 -0700
Re: E=mc2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 01:02 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-02 18:43 +0100
Re: E=mc2 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-02 11:21 -0700
Re: E=mc2 Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2018-11-02 13:35 +1100
Re: E=mc2 mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-01 21:43 -0700
Re: E=mc2 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-01 23:09 -0700
Re: E=mc2 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-02 01:33 -0700
Re: E=mc2 Buck Dehner <uktoa@yswdoez.cb> - 2018-11-04 12:34 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-04 14:20 +0100
Re: E=mc2 "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-04 05:51 -0800
Re: E=mc2 Buck Dehner <uktoa@yswdoez.cb> - 2018-11-05 20:51 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2018-11-06 10:57 +1100
Re: E=mc2 Ntowicz Usarczyk <iswso@wioioksi.io> - 2018-11-06 20:21 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2018-11-07 08:57 +1100
Re: E=mc2 Ntowicz Usarczyk <iswso@wioioksi.io> - 2018-11-07 19:35 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2018-11-08 09:32 +1100
Re: E=mc2 Gaston Castaneda <agn@j2awdos.nc> - 2018-11-08 21:13 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-08 22:26 +0100
Re: E=mc2 Gaston Castaneda <ucpp@j2adosw.nv> - 2018-11-09 19:46 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-10 02:47 +0100
Re: E=mc2 Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-07 00:13 +0100
Re: E=mc2 Ntowicz Usarczyk <iswso@wioioksi.io> - 2018-11-07 19:38 +0000
Re: E=mc2 benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 13:17 -0500
Re: E=mc2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-04 20:01 +0100
Re: E=mc2 benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 14:38 -0500
Re: E=mc2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-04 20:53 +0100
Re: E=mc2 benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 18:01 -0500
Re: E=mc2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-05 01:58 +0100
Re: E=mc2 benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 22:59 -0500
Re: E=mc2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-05 05:39 +0100
Re: E=mc2 Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-05 07:54 +0100
Re: E=mc2 Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-05 22:33 -0600
Re: E=mc2 Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-06 06:27 +0100
Re: E=mc2 Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-06 06:28 +0100
Re: E=mc2 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-04 23:28 -0800
Re: E=mc2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 22:14 +0000
Re: E=mc2 benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 18:05 -0500
Re: E=mc2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-05 02:02 +0100
Re: E=mc2 benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 22:59 -0500
Re: E=mc2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-05 05:51 +0100
Re: E=mc2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 03:00 +0000
Re: E=mc2 benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 23:15 -0500
Re: E=mc2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 12:59 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Buck Dehner <uktea@yswdoiz.cp> - 2018-11-05 21:00 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-13 15:38 +0100
Re: E=mc2 Gaston Castaneda <uucp@jav4ow.nq> - 2018-11-13 20:22 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-13 23:09 +0100
Re: E=mc2 Shon Wible <shwn@shouwe.wh> - 2018-11-14 15:53 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Buck Dehner <uktoa@yswdoez.cb> - 2018-11-05 20:54 +0000
Re: E=mc2 Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 22:35 -0800
Re: E=mc2 Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 22:44 -0800
Re: E=mc2 "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-08 06:34 -0800
Re: E=mc2 Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2018-11-05 12:21 +1100
Re: E=mc2 benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 23:12 -0500
Re: E=mc2 Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2018-11-05 16:30 +1100
Re: E=mc2 Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 16:48 -0700
Re: E=mc2 mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-02 19:07 -0700
Re: E=mc2 Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-08 08:48 +0100
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| From | Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-01 14:43 -0700 |
| Subject | E=mc2 |
| Message-ID | <f179d481-c820-403c-908f-2cf6c4f02326@googlegroups.com> |
I was not convinced by the derivation of this formula whether by Einstein or others. HELP!!!!!!
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-01 22:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <prg095$1pmo$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #476046 |
Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> wrote: > I was not convinced by the derivation of this formula whether by > Einstein or others. HELP!!!!!! > In science, conviction does not come from argument or derivation. A scientific hypothesis could legitimately come from pure hunch. The test of the validity of a scientific claim should rest on comparison with experimental measurement. Period, end of story. If you’re relying on anything else to be convincing then you are missing the point. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-01 16:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e80a1716-5cdd-4812-b300-c0b518f1eac8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #476046 |
Omar Shabsigh I was not convinced by the derivation of this formula whether by Einstein or others. HELP!!!!!! Fluid Dynamics (Planck Pressure/Planck Density) = c^2 ((Planck Density)*c^2) = (Planck Pressure) (1 joules)/(1 pascal) = m^3 E=mc^2 (Classical Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity) to (electron Compton Kinematic Viscosity) to (Planck Kinematic Viscosity) Premise 1 (Matter & Energy) are (Relativistic Ballast) maintaining the (Fluid Dynamic Balance Of Space Time) relative to (Bulk Modulus Period and Bjerknes Forces) https://photos.app.goo.gl/2tHNZ8XSWgnvW5yS6 (((1.42756885 solar mass * (c^2)) / (1.50122737e+23^2)) / (6.5248935 ((kg m) / s))) * ((2pi)^2) * 2 = 137.030879 m / s ((1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879 https://goo.gl/ocf5yM http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28%281.50122737e%2B23+%2F+%282+*+pi%29%29+%2F+%28%284+*+%28pi%5E2%29%29+*+%28%28%282%5E6%29+*+%283+*+%28pi%5E2%29%29+*+%28%28%28pi%5Ee%29+%2F+%28e%5E%28e+-+1%29%29%29%5E%285+%2F+2%29%29%29%5E3%29%29%29%5E%281+%2F+3%29+ #BoltzmannConstant & the #Electron 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K (c / (((2.4263263e-12 m) / c) / ((2.4263263e-12 m)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394325 m^2 / s (c / (electron Compton period ) / ((electron Compton length)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394325 m^2 / s = Kinematic viscosity (c / (((planck length * 1.50122737E+23) / c) / ((planck length * 1.50122737E+23)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394316 m^2 / s (c / ((planck Time) / (planck length^3)))^0.5 = 4.84533077e-27 m^2 / s = (Planck Kinematic Viscosity) (((c / ((planck length / c) / (planck length^3)))^0.5) / (((0.5 kg) * G) / (c^2))) / 2 = 6.5248935 m / s (((6.5248935 / (2pi)) * 1.70377849e53 kg * G) / (13.8880509 billion light year))^0.5 = 299792458 m / s ((0.5 Planck Time) / ((0.5 Planck Length)^3)) / 299792458 = 1.70377849e+53 s / m^3 1.70377849e+53 kg = mass of visible universe https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 Programming Planck units from a virtual electron; a Simulation Hypothesis Malcolm J. Macleod https://philpapers.org/archive/MACAMU.pdf 4 * (π^2) * (((2^6) * 3 * (π^2) * 137.035999172 * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3) = 2.3895454e+22 2.3895454e+22 * 2 * pi = 1.5013957e+23 (1.5013957e+23 Malcolm J. Macleod ) / (1.50122737e+23 Dahl Winters) = 1.00011212825 (1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * 137.035999172 * (2.0071199557^5))^3)) = 1.00000000136 ((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^0.5 = 2.00713495432 ((1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879198 (((electron Compton length/Planck Length)/ (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879198 -8 i log(-1) (-i log(-1))^2 (137.030879198 3 2^6 (-i log(-1))^2 ((-i log(-1))^e/e^(-1 + e))^(5/2))^3 = 1.50122737001e+23 https://goo.gl/BdSYXT http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-8+i+log(-1)+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+(137.030879198+3+2%5E6+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+((-i+log(-1))%5Ee%2Fe%5E(-1+%2B+e))%5E(5%2F2))%5E3 -8 i log(-1) (-i log(-1))^2 (137.035999172 3 2^6 (-i log(-1))^2 ((-i log(-1))^e/e^(-1 + e))^(5/2))^3 = 1.50139565030e+23 1.50139565030e+23/2pi = 2.3895454e+22 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-8+i+log(-1)+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+(137.035999172+3+2%5E6+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+((-i+log(-1))%5Ee%2Fe%5E(-1+%2B+e))%5E(5%2F2))%5E3 137.035999172 / (1.50122737e+23 / 1.50121697e+23) = 137.035049833 N is simply 2pi * sqrt(1/ag) where ag = the gravitational coupling constant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_coupling_constant Unlike ag, N appears in several places in physics in not only mass but also length and consequently time. Some of these formulations of N are in Dahl Winters paper at https://www.academia.edu/35806992/ Uniting_the_Scales_of_Length_Mass_and_Charge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity (((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) * (1 second)) / (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = 8.98755179e+16 m^2 / s ((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) / (m^3)) = Friedmann energy density (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = Friedmann mass density https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedmann_equations#Density_parameter Dahl Winters: A_Fluid_Model_of_Matter_Forces_and_Spacetime https://www.academia.edu/37242000/A_Fluid_Model_of_Matter_Forces_and_Spacetime https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ljusv5jFVIiNWHzOEejwQJyrToKbJkoq68XLLuOnEkk On the reversal of sign of secondary Bjerknes force acting between two pulsating gas bubbles Masato Ida: Satellite Venture Business Laboratory, Gunma University, http://cds.cern.ch/record/516564/files/0109005.pdf Holographic Ideal fluid under pressure model The Pressure & Density dictate the speed of light & (rate of causality) Pressure and density dictate the (Quantization parameters) ((6.5248935 kg m/s)^2*c)/((c^7/(hbar*G^2))*(planck length)^2) = hbar Friedmann parameters ((hbar / ((((3.71295774e-28 ((kg m) / s))^2) * c) / (((6.67408e-11 / 2) * pascals) * ((1 m)^2)))) / (6.5248935^2)) / 2 = 1.00000000000 (((((3.71295774e-28 * 6.5248935) * ((kg m) / s))^2) * c) / (((6.67408e-11 / 2) * pascals) * ((1 m)^2))) * 2 = 1.0545718e-34 m^2 kg / s = hbar 3.71295774e-28 kg/m^3 Friedmann mass density ((6.67408e-11/2) pascals = Friedmann energy density (((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) * (1 second)) / (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = 8.98755179e+16 m^2 / s = Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity (((9.1224509E+20 pascals)/(10150.0955 kg/m^3)) * ((2.4263263e-12 m)^2)/c^2*(6.5248935 kg m/s)^2)^0.5/1.50122739e+23 = hbar ((2.4263263e-12 m) / 1.50122739e+23) / planck length = 0.999999999 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K ((2.4263102367E-12 meters) / 1.50121745e+23) / Planck Length = 1 (((c^7) / (hbar * (G^2))) * (planck length^4)) / hbar = 299792458 m / s ((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^4)) / hbar = 299792458 m / s 1 / (((1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4))) / (2 * pi))^2) = 1.75175162e-45 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_coupling_constant 1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4)) = 1.50121745e+23 (1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4))) / (2pi) = 2.38926178e+22 (((2pi) /(3^0.5 planck length/m) pascals^-1) * ((8.74931845e-16 m)^3)) / (c^2)) = proton mass (((2pi) * (3.5722072e+34 pascals) * ((8.74931845e-16 m)^3)) / (c^2)) = proton mass https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?rp = 0.8751(61) x 10-15 m ((4 * planck length * ((6.5248935 * ((kg m) / s)) / c)) / proton mass) * (6.5248935 / (2pi)) = 8.7359718e-16 meters (4 * planck length * ((6.5248935 * ((kg m) / s)) / c)) / proton mass = 8.41235641e-16 meters ((((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(pi*9.1224509E+20*pi*3.57498477586e+34)^2)/2)^2/5 = 1 http://vixra.org/pdf/1308.0118vS.pdf https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 https://www.academia.edu/12184243/Vacuum_Fluid_Dynamics_Electric_and_Gravitational_Forces_Linked_to_the_Primary_and_Secondary_Bjerknes_Forces_in_Vacuum https://www.academia.edu/37297960/Modeling_Matter_and_Acoustic_Radiation_Forces_Bjerknes_Forces_in_a_Fluid_Spacetime https://www.academia.edu/37173524/The_Gas_Laws_of_Spacetime_and_a_Description_of_Electric_and_Gravitational_Forces_as_Acoustic_Radiation_Forces
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 09:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <314fce3f-700e-4fa7-a72c-1481de064d68@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #476055 |
On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 6:04:27 PM UTC-5, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > Omar Shabsigh > I was not convinced by the derivation of this formula whether by Einstein or others. HELP!!!!!! > > Fluid Dynamics > > (Planck Pressure/Planck Density) = c^2 > > ((Planck Density)*c^2) = (Planck Pressure) > > (1 joules)/(1 pascal) = m^3 > > E=mc^2 (c^7/(hbar*G^2)) = (6.5248935 kg m/s*c/(Planck length)^3) > > (Classical Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity) to (electron Compton Kinematic Viscosity) to (Planck Kinematic Viscosity) > > Premise 1 > > (Matter & Energy) are (Relativistic Ballast) maintaining the (Fluid Dynamic Balance Of Space Time) relative to (Bulk Modulus Period and Bjerknes Forces) > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/2tHNZ8XSWgnvW5yS6 > > > (((1.42756885 solar mass * (c^2)) / (1.50122737e+23^2)) / (6.5248935 ((kg m) / s))) * ((2pi)^2) * 2 = 137.030879 m / s > > > ((1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879 > > https://goo.gl/ocf5yM > > http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28%281.50122737e%2B23+%2F+%282+*+pi%29%29+%2F+%28%284+*+%28pi%5E2%29%29+*+%28%28%282%5E6%29+*+%283+*+%28pi%5E2%29%29+*+%28%28%28pi%5Ee%29+%2F+%28e%5E%28e+-+1%29%29%29%5E%285+%2F+2%29%29%29%5E3%29%29%29%5E%281+%2F+3%29+ > > > > #BoltzmannConstant & the #Electron > > 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K > > (c / (((2.4263263e-12 m) / c) / ((2.4263263e-12 m)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394325 m^2 / s > > (c / (electron Compton period ) / ((electron Compton length)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394325 m^2 / s = Kinematic viscosity > > (c / (((planck length * 1.50122737E+23) / c) / ((planck length * 1.50122737E+23)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394316 m^2 / s > > (c / ((planck Time) / (planck length^3)))^0.5 = 4.84533077e-27 m^2 / s = (Planck Kinematic Viscosity) > > (((c / ((planck length / c) / (planck length^3)))^0.5) / (((0.5 kg) * G) / (c^2))) / 2 = 6.5248935 m / s > > > > (((6.5248935 / (2pi)) * 1.70377849e53 kg * G) / (13.8880509 billion light year))^0.5 = 299792458 m / s > > ((0.5 Planck Time) / ((0.5 Planck Length)^3)) / 299792458 = 1.70377849e+53 s / m^3 > > 1.70377849e+53 kg = mass of visible universe > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 > > > > Programming Planck units from a virtual electron; a Simulation Hypothesis > Malcolm J. Macleod > > https://philpapers.org/archive/MACAMU.pdf > > 4 * (π^2) * (((2^6) * 3 * (π^2) * 137.035999172 * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3) = 2.3895454e+22 > > 2.3895454e+22 * 2 * pi = 1.5013957e+23 > > (1.5013957e+23 Malcolm J. Macleod ) / (1.50122737e+23 Dahl Winters) = 1.00011212825 > > (1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * 137.035999172 * (2.0071199557^5))^3)) = 1.00000000136 > > ((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^0.5 = 2.00713495432 > > > > ((1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879198 > > (((electron Compton length/Planck Length)/ (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879198 > > -8 i log(-1) (-i log(-1))^2 (137.030879198 3 2^6 (-i log(-1))^2 ((-i log(-1))^e/e^(-1 + e))^(5/2))^3 = 1.50122737001e+23 > > https://goo.gl/BdSYXT > > > > http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-8+i+log(-1)+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+(137.030879198+3+2%5E6+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+((-i+log(-1))%5Ee%2Fe%5E(-1+%2B+e))%5E(5%2F2))%5E3 > > > -8 i log(-1) (-i log(-1))^2 (137.035999172 3 2^6 (-i log(-1))^2 ((-i log(-1))^e/e^(-1 + e))^(5/2))^3 = 1.50139565030e+23 > > 1.50139565030e+23/2pi = 2.3895454e+22 > > http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-8+i+log(-1)+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+(137.035999172+3+2%5E6+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+((-i+log(-1))%5Ee%2Fe%5E(-1+%2B+e))%5E(5%2F2))%5E3 > > 137.035999172 / (1.50122737e+23 / 1.50121697e+23) = 137.035049833 > > N is simply 2pi * sqrt(1/ag) where ag = the gravitational coupling constant > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_coupling_constant > > Unlike ag, N appears in several places in physics in not only mass but also length and consequently time. > Some of these formulations of N are in Dahl Winters paper at https://www.academia.edu/35806992/ > > Uniting_the_Scales_of_Length_Mass_and_Charge > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant > > > > Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity > > (((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) * (1 second)) / (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = 8.98755179e+16 m^2 / s > > ((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) / (m^3)) = Friedmann energy density > > (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = Friedmann mass density > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedmann_equations#Density_parameter > > Dahl Winters: A_Fluid_Model_of_Matter_Forces_and_Spacetime > > > https://www.academia.edu/37242000/A_Fluid_Model_of_Matter_Forces_and_Spacetime > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ljusv5jFVIiNWHzOEejwQJyrToKbJkoq68XLLuOnEkk > > On the reversal of sign of secondary Bjerknes force acting between two pulsating gas bubbles > Masato Ida: Satellite Venture Business Laboratory, Gunma University, > > http://cds.cern.ch/record/516564/files/0109005.pdf > > > > Holographic Ideal fluid under pressure model > > The Pressure & Density dictate the speed of light & (rate of causality) > > Pressure and density dictate the (Quantization parameters) > > ((6.5248935 kg m/s)^2*c)/((c^7/(hbar*G^2))*(planck length)^2) = hbar > > Friedmann parameters > > ((hbar / ((((3.71295774e-28 ((kg m) / s))^2) * c) / (((6.67408e-11 / 2) * pascals) * ((1 m)^2)))) / (6.5248935^2)) / 2 = 1.00000000000 > > > > > (((((3.71295774e-28 * 6.5248935) * ((kg m) / s))^2) * c) / (((6.67408e-11 / 2) * pascals) * ((1 m)^2))) * 2 = 1.0545718e-34 m^2 kg / s = hbar > > 3.71295774e-28 kg/m^3 Friedmann mass density > > ((6.67408e-11/2) pascals = Friedmann energy density > > (((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) * (1 second)) / (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = 8.98755179e+16 m^2 / s = Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity > > > (((9.1224509E+20 pascals)/(10150.0955 kg/m^3)) * ((2.4263263e-12 m)^2)/c^2*(6.5248935 kg m/s)^2)^0.5/1.50122739e+23 = hbar > > > ((2.4263263e-12 m) / 1.50122739e+23) / planck length = 0.999999999 > > 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K > > 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K > > ((2.4263102367E-12 meters) / 1.50121745e+23) / Planck Length = 1 > > > (((c^7) / (hbar * (G^2))) * (planck length^4)) / hbar = 299792458 m / s > > > ((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^4)) / hbar = 299792458 m / s > > > 1 / (((1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4))) / (2 * pi))^2) = 1.75175162e-45 > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_coupling_constant > > > 1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4)) = 1.50121745e+23 > > > > (1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4))) / (2pi) = 2.38926178e+22 > > > > (((2pi) /(3^0.5 planck length/m) pascals^-1) * ((8.74931845e-16 m)^3)) / (c^2)) = proton mass > > > (((2pi) * (3.5722072e+34 pascals) * ((8.74931845e-16 m)^3)) / (c^2)) = proton mass > > https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?rp = 0.8751(61) x 10-15 m > > ((4 * planck length * ((6.5248935 * ((kg m) / s)) / c)) / proton mass) * (6.5248935 / (2pi)) = 8.7359718e-16 meters > > (4 * planck length * ((6.5248935 * ((kg m) / s)) / c)) / proton mass = 8.41235641e-16 meters > > > ((((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(pi*9.1224509E+20*pi*3.57498477586e+34)^2)/2)^2/5 = 1 > > > > > http://vixra.org/pdf/1308.0118vS.pdf > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 > > https://www.academia.edu/12184243/Vacuum_Fluid_Dynamics_Electric_and_Gravitational_Forces_Linked_to_the_Primary_and_Secondary_Bjerknes_Forces_in_Vacuum > > https://www.academia.edu/37297960/Modeling_Matter_and_Acoustic_Radiation_Forces_Bjerknes_Forces_in_a_Fluid_Spacetime > > https://www.academia.edu/37173524/The_Gas_Laws_of_Spacetime_and_a_Description_of_Electric_and_Gravitational_Forces_as_Acoustic_Radiation_Forces
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 09:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <51e16324-0d96-40a9-9331-ff9fb26f80e7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #476088 |
On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 6:04:27 PM UTC-5, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > Omar Shabsigh > I was not convinced by the derivation of this formula whether by Einstein or others. HELP!!!!!! > > Fluid Dynamics > > (Planck Pressure/Planck Density) = c^2 > > ((Planck Density)*c^2) = (Planck Pressure) > > (1 joules)/(1 pascal) = m^3 > > E=mc^2 (c^7/(hbar*G^2)) = (6.5248935 kg m/s*c/(Planck length)^3) Friedmann Parameters ((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) / ((3.71295774e-28 ((kg m) / s) * c) / ((1 m)^3)) = 299792458 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedmann_equations#Density_parameter > > (Classical Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity) to (electron Compton Kinematic Viscosity) to (Planck Kinematic Viscosity) > > Premise 1 > > (Matter & Energy) are (Relativistic Ballast) maintaining the (Fluid Dynamic Balance Of Space Time) relative to (Bulk Modulus Period and Bjerknes Forces) > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/2tHNZ8XSWgnvW5yS6 > > > (((1.42756885 solar mass * (c^2)) / (1.50122737e+23^2)) / (6.5248935 ((kg m) / s))) * ((2pi)^2) * 2 = 137.030879 m / s > > > ((1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879 > > https://goo.gl/ocf5yM > > http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28%281.50122737e%2B23+%2F+%282+*+pi%29%29+%2F+%28%284+*+%28pi%5E2%29%29+*+%28%28%282%5E6%29+*+%283+*+%28pi%5E2%29%29+*+%28%28%28pi%5Ee%29+%2F+%28e%5E%28e+-+1%29%29%29%5E%285+%2F+2%29%29%29%5E3%29%29%29%5E%281+%2F+3%29+ > > > > #BoltzmannConstant & the #Electron > > 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K > > (c / (((2.4263263e-12 m) / c) / ((2.4263263e-12 m)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394325 m^2 / s > > (c / (electron Compton period ) / ((electron Compton length)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394325 m^2 / s = Kinematic viscosity > > (c / (((planck length * 1.50122737E+23) / c) / ((planck length * 1.50122737E+23)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394316 m^2 / s > > (c / ((planck Time) / (planck length^3)))^0.5 = 4.84533077e-27 m^2 / s = (Planck Kinematic Viscosity) > > (((c / ((planck length / c) / (planck length^3)))^0.5) / (((0.5 kg) * G) / (c^2))) / 2 = 6.5248935 m / s > > > > (((6.5248935 / (2pi)) * 1.70377849e53 kg * G) / (13.8880509 billion light year))^0.5 = 299792458 m / s > > ((0.5 Planck Time) / ((0.5 Planck Length)^3)) / 299792458 = 1.70377849e+53 s / m^3 > > 1.70377849e+53 kg = mass of visible universe > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 > > > > Programming Planck units from a virtual electron; a Simulation Hypothesis > Malcolm J. Macleod > > https://philpapers.org/archive/MACAMU.pdf > > 4 * (π^2) * (((2^6) * 3 * (π^2) * 137.035999172 * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3) = 2.3895454e+22 > > 2.3895454e+22 * 2 * pi = 1.5013957e+23 > > (1.5013957e+23 Malcolm J. Macleod ) / (1.50122737e+23 Dahl Winters) = 1.00011212825 > > (1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * 137.035999172 * (2.0071199557^5))^3)) = 1.00000000136 > > ((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^0.5 = 2.00713495432 > > > > ((1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879198 > > (((electron Compton length/Planck Length)/ (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879198 > > -8 i log(-1) (-i log(-1))^2 (137.030879198 3 2^6 (-i log(-1))^2 ((-i log(-1))^e/e^(-1 + e))^(5/2))^3 = 1.50122737001e+23 > > https://goo.gl/BdSYXT > > > > http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-8+i+log(-1)+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+(137.030879198+3+2%5E6+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+((-i+log(-1))%5Ee%2Fe%5E(-1+%2B+e))%5E(5%2F2))%5E3 > > > -8 i log(-1) (-i log(-1))^2 (137.035999172 3 2^6 (-i log(-1))^2 ((-i log(-1))^e/e^(-1 + e))^(5/2))^3 = 1.50139565030e+23 > > 1.50139565030e+23/2pi = 2.3895454e+22 > > http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-8+i+log(-1)+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+(137.035999172+3+2%5E6+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+((-i+log(-1))%5Ee%2Fe%5E(-1+%2B+e))%5E(5%2F2))%5E3 > > 137.035999172 / (1.50122737e+23 / 1.50121697e+23) = 137.035049833 > > N is simply 2pi * sqrt(1/ag) where ag = the gravitational coupling constant > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_coupling_constant > > Unlike ag, N appears in several places in physics in not only mass but also length and consequently time. > Some of these formulations of N are in Dahl Winters paper at https://www.academia.edu/35806992/ > > Uniting_the_Scales_of_Length_Mass_and_Charge > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant > > > > Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity > > (((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) * (1 second)) / (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = 8.98755179e+16 m^2 / s > > ((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) / (m^3)) = Friedmann energy density > > (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = Friedmann mass density > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedmann_equations#Density_parameter > > Dahl Winters: A_Fluid_Model_of_Matter_Forces_and_Spacetime > > > https://www.academia.edu/37242000/A_Fluid_Model_of_Matter_Forces_and_Spacetime > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ljusv5jFVIiNWHzOEejwQJyrToKbJkoq68XLLuOnEkk > > On the reversal of sign of secondary Bjerknes force acting between two pulsating gas bubbles > Masato Ida: Satellite Venture Business Laboratory, Gunma University, > > http://cds.cern.ch/record/516564/files/0109005.pdf > > > > Holographic Ideal fluid under pressure model > > The Pressure & Density dictate the speed of light & (rate of causality) > > Pressure and density dictate the (Quantization parameters) > > ((6.5248935 kg m/s)^2*c)/((c^7/(hbar*G^2))*(planck length)^2) = hbar > > Friedmann parameters > > ((hbar / ((((3.71295774e-28 ((kg m) / s))^2) * c) / (((6.67408e-11 / 2) * pascals) * ((1 m)^2)))) / (6.5248935^2)) / 2 = 1.00000000000 > > > > > (((((3.71295774e-28 * 6.5248935) * ((kg m) / s))^2) * c) / (((6.67408e-11 / 2) * pascals) * ((1 m)^2))) * 2 = 1.0545718e-34 m^2 kg / s = hbar > > 3.71295774e-28 kg/m^3 Friedmann mass density > > ((6.67408e-11/2) pascals = Friedmann energy density > > (((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) * (1 second)) / (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = 8.98755179e+16 m^2 / s = Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity > > > (((9.1224509E+20 pascals)/(10150.0955 kg/m^3)) * ((2.4263263e-12 m)^2)/c^2*(6.5248935 kg m/s)^2)^0.5/1.50122739e+23 = hbar > > > ((2.4263263e-12 m) / 1.50122739e+23) / planck length = 0.999999999 > > 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K > > 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K > > ((2.4263102367E-12 meters) / 1.50121745e+23) / Planck Length = 1 > > > (((c^7) / (hbar * (G^2))) * (planck length^4)) / hbar = 299792458 m / s > > > ((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^4)) / hbar = 299792458 m / s > > > 1 / (((1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4))) / (2 * pi))^2) = 1.75175162e-45 > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_coupling_constant > > > 1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4)) = 1.50121745e+23 > > > > (1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4))) / (2pi) = 2.38926178e+22 > > > > (((2pi) /(3^0.5 planck length/m) pascals^-1) * ((8.74931845e-16 m)^3)) / (c^2)) = proton mass > > > (((2pi) * (3.5722072e+34 pascals) * ((8.74931845e-16 m)^3)) / (c^2)) = proton mass > > https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?rp = 0.8751(61) x 10-15 m > > ((4 * planck length * ((6.5248935 * ((kg m) / s)) / c)) / proton mass) * (6.5248935 / (2pi)) = 8.7359718e-16 meters > > (4 * planck length * ((6.5248935 * ((kg m) / s)) / c)) / proton mass = 8.41235641e-16 meters > > > ((((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(pi*9.1224509E+20*pi*3.57498477586e+34)^2)/2)^2/5 = 1 > > > > > http://vixra.org/pdf/1308.0118vS.pdf > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 > > https://www.academia.edu/12184243/Vacuum_Fluid_Dynamics_Electric_and_Gravitational_Forces_Linked_to_the_Primary_and_Secondary_Bjerknes_Forces_in_Vacuum > > https://www.academia.edu/37297960/Modeling_Matter_and_Acoustic_Radiation_Forces_Bjerknes_Forces_in_a_Fluid_Spacetime > > https://www.academia.edu/37173524/The_Gas_Laws_of_Spacetime_and_a_Description_of_Electric_and_Gravitational_Forces_as_Acoustic_Radiation_Forces
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 15:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f538e486-c077-483f-8b2a-de81d572abdd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #476089 |
On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 6:04:27 PM UTC-5, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > Omar Shabsigh > I was not convinced by the derivation of this formula whether by Einstein or others. HELP!!!!!! > > Fluid Dynamics > > (Planck Pressure/Planck Density) = c^2 > > ((Planck Density)*c^2) = (Planck Pressure) > > (1 joules)/(1 pascal) = m^3 > > E=mc^2 (c^7/(hbar*G^2)) = (6.5248935 kg m/s*c/(Planck length)^3) Friedmann Parameters ((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) / ((3.71295774e-28 ((kg m) / s) * c) / ((1 m)^3)) = 299792458 (0.5 planck length) / ((3.71295774e-28 * ((kg m) / s) * c) / (c^2)) = 6.5248935 m / kg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedmann_equations#Density_parameter > > (Classical Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity) to (electron Compton Kinematic Viscosity) to (Planck Kinematic Viscosity) > > Premise 1 > > (Matter & Energy) are (Relativistic Ballast) maintaining the (Fluid Dynamic Balance Of Space Time) relative to (Bulk Modulus Period and Bjerknes Forces) > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/2tHNZ8XSWgnvW5yS6 > > > (((1.42756885 solar mass * (c^2)) / (1.50122737e+23^2)) / (6.5248935 ((kg m) / s))) * ((2pi)^2) * 2 = 137.030879 m / s > > > ((1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879 > > https://goo.gl/ocf5yM > > http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28%281.50122737e%2B23+%2F+%282+*+pi%29%29+%2F+%28%284+*+%28pi%5E2%29%29+*+%28%28%282%5E6%29+*+%283+*+%28pi%5E2%29%29+*+%28%28%28pi%5Ee%29+%2F+%28e%5E%28e+-+1%29%29%29%5E%285+%2F+2%29%29%29%5E3%29%29%29%5E%281+%2F+3%29+ > > > > #BoltzmannConstant & the #Electron > > 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K > > (c / (((2.4263263e-12 m) / c) / ((2.4263263e-12 m)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394325 m^2 / s > > (c / (electron Compton period ) / ((electron Compton length)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394325 m^2 / s = Kinematic viscosity > > (c / (((planck length * 1.50122737E+23) / c) / ((planck length * 1.50122737E+23)^3)))^0.5 = 0.000727394316 m^2 / s > > (c / ((planck Time) / (planck length^3)))^0.5 = 4.84533077e-27 m^2 / s = (Planck Kinematic Viscosity) > > (((c / ((planck length / c) / (planck length^3)))^0.5) / (((0.5 kg) * G) / (c^2))) / 2 = 6.5248935 m / s > > > > (((6.5248935 / (2pi)) * 1.70377849e53 kg * G) / (13.8880509 billion light year))^0.5 = 299792458 m / s > > ((0.5 Planck Time) / ((0.5 Planck Length)^3)) / 299792458 = 1.70377849e+53 s / m^3 > > 1.70377849e+53 kg = mass of visible universe > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 > > > > Programming Planck units from a virtual electron; a Simulation Hypothesis > Malcolm J. Macleod > > https://philpapers.org/archive/MACAMU.pdf > > 4 * (π^2) * (((2^6) * 3 * (π^2) * 137.035999172 * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3) = 2.3895454e+22 > > 2.3895454e+22 * 2 * pi = 1.5013957e+23 > > (1.5013957e+23 Malcolm J. Macleod ) / (1.50122737e+23 Dahl Winters) = 1.00011212825 > > (1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * 137.035999172 * (2.0071199557^5))^3)) = 1.00000000136 > > ((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^0.5 = 2.00713495432 > > > > ((1.50122737e+23 / (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879198 > > (((electron Compton length/Planck Length)/ (2pi)) / ((4 * (pi^2)) * (((2^6) * (3 * (pi^2)) * (((pi^e) / (e^(e - 1)))^(5 / 2)))^3)))^(1 / 3) = 137.030879198 > > -8 i log(-1) (-i log(-1))^2 (137.030879198 3 2^6 (-i log(-1))^2 ((-i log(-1))^e/e^(-1 + e))^(5/2))^3 = 1.50122737001e+23 > > https://goo.gl/BdSYXT > > > > http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-8+i+log(-1)+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+(137.030879198+3+2%5E6+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+((-i+log(-1))%5Ee%2Fe%5E(-1+%2B+e))%5E(5%2F2))%5E3 > > > -8 i log(-1) (-i log(-1))^2 (137.035999172 3 2^6 (-i log(-1))^2 ((-i log(-1))^e/e^(-1 + e))^(5/2))^3 = 1.50139565030e+23 > > 1.50139565030e+23/2pi = 2.3895454e+22 > > http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-8+i+log(-1)+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+(137.035999172+3+2%5E6+(-i+log(-1))%5E2+((-i+log(-1))%5Ee%2Fe%5E(-1+%2B+e))%5E(5%2F2))%5E3 > > 137.035999172 / (1.50122737e+23 / 1.50121697e+23) = 137.035049833 > > N is simply 2pi * sqrt(1/ag) where ag = the gravitational coupling constant > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_coupling_constant > > Unlike ag, N appears in several places in physics in not only mass but also length and consequently time. > Some of these formulations of N are in Dahl Winters paper at https://www.academia.edu/35806992/ > > Uniting_the_Scales_of_Length_Mass_and_Charge > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant > > > > Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity > > (((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) * (1 second)) / (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = 8.98755179e+16 m^2 / s > > ((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) / (m^3)) = Friedmann energy density > > (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = Friedmann mass density > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedmann_equations#Density_parameter > > Dahl Winters: A_Fluid_Model_of_Matter_Forces_and_Spacetime > > > https://www.academia.edu/37242000/A_Fluid_Model_of_Matter_Forces_and_Spacetime > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ljusv5jFVIiNWHzOEejwQJyrToKbJkoq68XLLuOnEkk > > On the reversal of sign of secondary Bjerknes force acting between two pulsating gas bubbles > Masato Ida: Satellite Venture Business Laboratory, Gunma University, > > http://cds.cern.ch/record/516564/files/0109005.pdf > > > > Holographic Ideal fluid under pressure model > > The Pressure & Density dictate the speed of light & (rate of causality) > > Pressure and density dictate the (Quantization parameters) > > ((6.5248935 kg m/s)^2*c)/((c^7/(hbar*G^2))*(planck length)^2) = hbar > > Friedmann parameters > > ((hbar / ((((3.71295774e-28 ((kg m) / s))^2) * c) / (((6.67408e-11 / 2) * pascals) * ((1 m)^2)))) / (6.5248935^2)) / 2 = 1.00000000000 > > > > > (((((3.71295774e-28 * 6.5248935) * ((kg m) / s))^2) * c) / (((6.67408e-11 / 2) * pascals) * ((1 m)^2))) * 2 = 1.0545718e-34 m^2 kg / s = hbar > > 3.71295774e-28 kg/m^3 Friedmann mass density > > ((6.67408e-11/2) pascals = Friedmann energy density > > (((6.67408e-11/2) pascals) * (1 second)) / (3.71295774e-28 (kg / (m^3))) = 8.98755179e+16 m^2 / s = Friedmann Kinematic Viscosity > > > (((9.1224509E+20 pascals)/(10150.0955 kg/m^3)) * ((2.4263263e-12 m)^2)/c^2*(6.5248935 kg m/s)^2)^0.5/1.50122739e+23 = hbar > > > ((2.4263263e-12 m) / 1.50122739e+23) / planck length = 0.999999999 > > 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K > > 1 / ((((Boltzmann constant^4) / 6.5248935) / (8^0.5))^0.25) = 1.50122737e+23 m-2 kg-1 s2 K > > ((2.4263102367E-12 meters) / 1.50121745e+23) / Planck Length = 1 > > > (((c^7) / (hbar * (G^2))) * (planck length^4)) / hbar = 299792458 m / s > > > ((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^4)) / hbar = 299792458 m / s > > > 1 / (((1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4))) / (2 * pi))^2) = 1.75175162e-45 > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_coupling_constant > > > 1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4)) = 1.50121745e+23 > > > > (1 / (((((9.1224509E+20 pascals) * (planck length^4)) / hbar) / c)^(1 / 4))) / (2pi) = 2.38926178e+22 > > > > (((2pi) /(3^0.5 planck length/m) pascals^-1) * ((8.74931845e-16 m)^3)) / (c^2)) = proton mass > > > (((2pi) * (3.5722072e+34 pascals) * ((8.74931845e-16 m)^3)) / (c^2)) = proton mass > > https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?rp = 0.8751(61) x 10-15 m > > ((4 * planck length * ((6.5248935 * ((kg m) / s)) / c)) / proton mass) * (6.5248935 / (2pi)) = 8.7359718e-16 meters > > (4 * planck length * ((6.5248935 * ((kg m) / s)) / c)) / proton mass = 8.41235641e-16 meters > > > ((((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(pi*9.1224509E+20*pi*3.57498477586e+34)^2)/2)^2/5 = 1 > > > > > http://vixra.org/pdf/1308.0118vS.pdf > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 > > https://www.academia.edu/12184243/Vacuum_Fluid_Dynamics_Electric_and_Gravitational_Forces_Linked_to_the_Primary_and_Secondary_Bjerknes_Forces_in_Vacuum > > https://www.academia.edu/37297960/Modeling_Matter_and_Acoustic_Radiation_Forces_Bjerknes_Forces_in_a_Fluid_Spacetime > > https://www.academia.edu/37173524/The_Gas_Laws_of_Spacetime_and_a_Description_of_Electric_and_Gravitational_Forces_as_Acoustic_Radiation_Forces
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| From | Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-01 17:53 -0700 |
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A hunch is a hunch. But to become a fact of science it has to be proven mathematically and in the end experimentally. Now the mathematical proof did not convince me. And in our age of atomic energy has it been confirmed, measured somehow?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 01:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <prg7mo$4bf$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
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Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> wrote: > A hunch is a hunch. But to become a fact of science it has to be proven mathematically No. That’s a mistake. Science does not prove anything with mathematics b > and in the end experimentally. Yes, and this is what I told you. > Now the mathematical proof did not convince me. And in our age of atomic > energy has it been confirmed, measured somehow? > TONS of ways. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 18:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pri2cd$b49$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #476060 |
Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> Wrote in message: > A hunch is a hunch. But to become a fact of science it has to be proven mathematically and in the end experimentally. Now the mathematical proof did not convince me. And in our age of atomic energy has it been confirmed, measured somehow? There is nothing to convince in mathematical derivation. Either you understand it or not If you do, you see if it is right or not. If you do not, you either believe it is correct or not, or you cannot decide. Even if its mathematics is formally right, it says nothing if it fits observations and measurements. Since the dawning of quantum physics, there have been done countless measurements confirming that the SR math of mass/energy equivalence fits the observations. 3 examples of many: 1/the masses of electrons and positrons are known, so is known the energy of photons created by their annihilation. 2/ The mass difference of hydrogen and helium isotopes is known, so does energy of hydrogen fusion. 3/ Mass of 235U and 239Pu isotopes is known, so does average mass of fission products and released energy. BTW, "HELP !!!" should be used only for case of being in dangerous situation, otherwise it is over-demanding. Furthermore, you have provided no sign of your own effort, asking for spoon-feeding. -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 11:21 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #476091 |
On Friday, 2 November 2018 18:43:43 UTC+1, Libor Striz wrote: > There is nothing to convince in mathematical derivation. Either > you understand it or not > If you do, you see if it is right or not. > If you do not, you either believe it is correct or not, or you > cannot decide. Speaking of mathematics and its derivations, it's always good to remind that your bunch of idiots had to reject its oldest, very important part, as it didn't want to help you to derive your idiocies.
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 13:35 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <g41rgfFq4coU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #476046 |
On 2/11/2018 8:43 am, Omar Shabsigh wrote: > I was not convinced by the derivation of this formula whether by Einstein or others. HELP!!!!!! > You haven't provided much information. You might have an issue with the postulates or with the algebra. Or you might just have a philosophical objection that is incapable of being addressed by any kind of argument. It is generally accepted that the algebra is correct, and the resulting formula fits experimental results. Sylvia.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-01 21:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e561591f-408c-4306-8fcf-74f72e5d1760@googlegroups.com> |
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On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 7:36:01 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 2/11/2018 8:43 am, Omar Shabsigh wrote: > > I was not convinced by the derivation of this formula whether by Einstein or others. HELP!!!!!! > > > > You haven't provided much information. You might have an issue with the > postulates or with the algebra. Or you might just have a philosophical > objection that is incapable of being addressed by any kind of argument. > > It is generally accepted that the algebra is correct, and the resulting > formula fits experimental results. > > Sylvia. Light has a density. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-01 23:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5BDBEA23.6DCB@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #476065 |
Sylvia Else wrote: > > On 2/11/2018 8:43 am, Omar Shabsigh wrote: > > I was not convinced by the derivation of this formula whether by Einstein or others. HELP!!!!!! > > > > You haven't provided much information. You might have an issue with the > postulates or with the algebra. Or you might just have a philosophical > objection that is incapable of being addressed by any kind of argument. > > It is generally accepted that the algebra is correct, and the resulting > formula fits experimental results. > > Sylvia. "algebra"???? what number does M represent?
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 01:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8a565523-9a41-4e5d-9412-73e57dee067b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #476065 |
On Friday, 2 November 2018 03:36:01 UTC+1, Sylvia Else wrote: > > It is generally accepted that the algebra is correct, and the resulting > formula fits experimental results. It's surely generally accepted by You.
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| From | Buck Dehner <uktoa@yswdoez.cb> |
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| Date | 2018-11-04 12:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <prmp0o$4e9$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #476065 |
Sylvia Else wrote: > On 2/11/2018 8:43 am, Omar Shabsigh wrote: >> I was not convinced by the derivation of this formula whether by >> Einstein or others. HELP!!!!!! >> >> > You haven't provided much information. You might have an issue with the > postulates or with the algebra. Or you might just have a philosophical > objection that is incapable of being addressed by any kind of argument. > It is generally accepted that the algebra is correct, and the resulting > formula fits experimental results. Negative. E=mc² is invalid from head to tail. Based entirely on circular reasoning and assumed assertions. When you can prove that E=/=mc³ or that E=/=mc^1.6 wake me up.
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-04 14:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <prmrmd$57m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #476203 |
Buck Dehner <uktoa@yswdoez.cb> Wrote in message: > Negative. E=mc² is invalid from head to tail. Based entirely on circular reasoning and assumed assertions. When you can prove that E=/=mc³ or that E=/=mc^1.6 wake me up. Simple dimensional analysis tells the exponent 2 is the only one possible. As only mc^2 has dimension of energy. Any physical equation is true only if both values and dimensions are equal. When what you think is contradicted by experimental data, then such thinking is invalid. -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-04 05:51 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5b2c7757-6bb0-4205-abf7-80f11961a112@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #476207 |
Libor Striz
Buck Dehner <uktoa@yswdoez.cb> Wrote in message:
> Negative. E=mc² is invalid from head to tail. Based entirely on circular reasoning and assumed assertions. When you can prove that E=/=mc³ or that E=/=mc^1.6 wake me up.
Simple dimensional analysis tells the exponent 2 is the only one
possible. As only mc^2 has dimension of energy.
Any physical equation is true only if both values and dimensions
are equal.
When what you think is contradicted by experimental data, then
such thinking is invalid.
(2.1764702e-8 kg * (c^7)) / (c^5) = 1.95611386e+9 joules
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17W_L19_YvxkKXv1vNya0YekR0vb8K31XTq4_4-CssSM
Planck Momentum = 6.52791193 kg m/s
((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(c^5/(hbar*G^2))) = ((c^2/(hbar*G^2))/(1/(hbar*G^2)))
2.42160617e+42 m^5 / s^5
( c^5) = (6.5248935 kg m/s *c^2*G/planck length)
m^5/s^5 = Phi Decagon
http://rs1168.pbsrc.com/albums/r500/GMATPrepNow/star3_zpsb1wb2kpx.png?w=480&h=480&fit=clip
2pi/10 = pi/5
PERFECTION!!
((((((c^7) / (hbar * (G^2))) / (299792458^5)) * (planck length^2)) / (5 kgf))^2) * (2pi) = 6.52791193
(((c^2) / ((((s^2) / (m^8)) * (c^5))^(1 / 3))) / ((5pi) * ((m^3) / s)))^0.5 = 6.52744937
(((6.5248935 s) / (m * kg)) / (2pi)) / ((70406.791856 ((m / s) / Mpc)) / (((2pi) * hbar * c) * (10973731.568508 (m^(-1))))) = 0.99211178 meters
(70406.791856 ((m / s) / Mpc)) * (13.8880509 billion light years) = 299792459 m / s
(((0.5 Planck length) / c) / ((0.5 Planck Length)^3)) / c = 1.70377849e+53 kg = mass universe
(((((0.5 Planck length) / c) / ((0.5 Planck Length)^3)) / c) / (((13.8880509 billion light years) * pi)^3)) / (((0.5 kg) * G) / (c^2)) = 6.52489349 s^2 / m^8
(((c^2) / ((((s^2) / (m^8)) * (c^5))^(1 / 3))) / ((5pi) * ((m^3) / s)))^0.5 = 6.52744937
(((((c^2) / ((((s^2) / (m^8)) * (c^5))^(1 / 3))) / ((5pi) * ((m^3) / s)))^0.5) / 6.5248935)^2 = 1.00078357
Planck Momentum = 6.52791193 kg m/s
((((c^7) / (hbar * (G^2))) / (299792458^5)) * (planck length^2)) / (5 kgf) = 1.0192887
http://vixra.org/pdf/1102.0032vB.pdf
((c^7/(hbar*G^2))/(c^5/(hbar*G^2))) = ((c^2/(hbar*G^2))/(1/(hbar*G^2)))
2.42160617e+42 m^5 / s^5 ... messes up units going from Planck units to Classical units
( c^5) = (6.5248935 kg m/s *c^2*G/planck length)
m^5/s^5 = ...... Phi Decagon
The Mainstream Physics community seems to have schizophrenia.
They do not see any problem with proclaiming an "Aether-less space time" with a necessary energy density of (10^113 joules per cubic meter)
The effects of vacuum energy can be experimentally observed in various phenomena such as spontaneous emission, the Casimir effect and the Lamb shift, and are thought to influence the behavior of the Universe on cosmological scales. Using the upper limit of the cosmological constant, the vacuum energy of free space has been estimated to be 10^−9 joules (10^−2 ergs) per cubic meter.
However, in both quantum electrodynamics (QED) and stochastic electrodynamics (SED), consistency with the principle of Lorentz covariance and with the magnitude of the Planck constant suggest a much larger value of 10^113 joules per cubic meter.
This huge discrepancy is known as the cosmological constant problem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy
an ("Ideal Fluid Solution" under pressure) seems entirely more Fitting and Logical
(9.270391e+111 joules/m^3) / c^5 *(Planck length)^2 = 1
((9.270391e+111 (joules / (m^3))) / (299792458^5)) * ((Planck length / m)^2) = 1 pascals
((c^7) / (hbar * (G^2))) / ((c^5) / (Planck length^2)) = 49.9790376 kg s^3 / m^4
(((c^7) / (hbar * (G^2))) / ((c^5) / (Planck length^2))) * (G * c) = 1
((Planck Pressure) / ((c^5) / (Planck length^2))) * (G * c) = 1
Decagon Dodecahedral Penrose Fractal = c^5
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17W_L19_YvxkKXv1vNya0YekR0vb8K31XTq4_4-CssSM/
((1.60389183e+11 Hz) / (20836617636.1328 hertz))^0.5 = 2.7744309876 Kelvin
1 / (((((9.2703912e+111 (joules / (m^3))) / (c^5)) * (planck length^2) * G * c) * ((5^0.5) * 5))^2) = 19.9832336 = (missing dark energy & dark matter)
http://rs1168.pbsrc.com/albums/r500/GMATPrepNow/star3_zpsb1wb2kpx.png?w=480&h=480&fit=clip
2pi/10 = pi/5
PERFECTION!!
((((((c^7) / (hbar * (G^2))) / (299792458^5)) * (planck length^2)) / (5 kgf))^2) * (2pi) = 6.52791193
360 / (72 + 72 + 72 + 108) = 1.1111111111111111
(2*360)/(108+ 36) = 5
(((pi / 1.1111111111111111111111111) * (2^3) * (5^4))^2) / c = 0.666659497 s / m = Koide Formula
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PMoU96M1Ukt1kZrJ2
It’s a fractal .. a Penrose Tiling ... a Decagon
(2*360 degrees)/(108 degrees + 36 degrees ) = 5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_triangle_(mathematics)#Golden_gnomon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_tiling
c^5 .... Decagon .... 10 lines ... m^5/s^5
Why the units Are messed up going from Planck System to Classical System... Existing Pressure is omitted because it is unnoticed…. Near frictionless Ideal Fluid under pressure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_solution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_fluid
((c^7) / (hbar * (G^2))) / (299792458^5) = 1.9132972e+71 pascals
((1.9132972e+71 pascals) * (planck length^3)) / ((2pi) * hbar) = 1.2190867 hertz
1) spacetime can be modeled as an ideal gas under high pressure, giving it fluid qualities
2) the electric and gravitational forces are acoustic radiation forces operating within this fluid
3) the magnetic force is linked to the presence of a small nonzero viscosity within the fluid.
https://www.academia.edu/37242000/A_Fluid_Model_of_Matter_Forces_and_Spacetime
x = 9.8696
x/ (pi^2) = 0.99999955407
(x/pi) ((8 (x/pi))/5 - 5) = 0.25/2.99792458
https://goo.gl/PjVFe5
http://vixra.org/pdf/1102.0032vB.pdf
Phi Decagon
http://rs1168.pbsrc.com/albums/r500/GMATPrepNow/star3_zpsb1wb2kpx.png?w=480&h=480&fit=clip
360 / (72 + 72 + 72 + 108) = 1.111111111111111111
(1 / (((6.674084333707e-11 / 6.6666666666666666e-11) - 1)^0.5)) = 29.9792458
(1/29.9792458^2+1)*(1/(2^9*3*5^10)) = 6.674084333707e-11
(1/(2^9*3*5^10)) = Fibonacci
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7S6ivZY6yw16owxy9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/MYAfpjjWoSXJCcPq7
(299792458 / (((2^5) * 3 * (5^8)) / 1.2345679012345679012345)) / (pi^2) = 1.00001075528
(299792458 / (((2^5) * 3 * (5^8)) / (1.1111111111111111111111^2))) / (pi^2) = 1.00001075528
(((pi / 1.1111111111111111111111111) * (2^3) * (5^4))^2) / c = 0.666659497 s / m = Koide
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PMoU96M1Ukt1kZrJ2
Dodecahedral Flat Tiling
Flat Tiling Rhombic Dodecahedron
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| From | Buck Dehner <uktoa@yswdoez.cb> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 20:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <prqaga$6fn$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #476207 |
Libor Striz wrote: > Buck Dehner <uktoa@yswdoez.cb> Wrote in message: >> Negative. E=mc² is invalid from head to tail. Based entirely on >> circular reasoning and assumed assertions. When you can prove that >> E=/=mc³ or that E=/=mc^1.6 wake me up. > > Simple dimensional analysis tells the exponent 2 is the only one > possible. As only mc^2 has dimension of energy. The issue is rather quantitative, please reread, my polish friend. You can put anything there squared, including c which is no more than a constant. > Any physical equation is true only if both values and dimensions > are equal. When what you think is contradicted by experimental data, > then such thinking is invalid. You won't begin deriving an expression for the sake of the dimensions, but rather the domains, my polish friend.
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-06 10:57 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <g4c3ntF3sveU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #476344 |
On 6/11/2018 7:51 am, Buck Dehner wrote: > Libor Striz wrote: > >> Buck Dehner <uktoa@yswdoez.cb> Wrote in message: >>> Negative. E=mc² is invalid from head to tail. Based entirely on >>> circular reasoning and assumed assertions. When you can prove that >>> E=/=mc³ or that E=/=mc^1.6 wake me up. >> >> Simple dimensional analysis tells the exponent 2 is the only one >> possible. As only mc^2 has dimension of energy. > > The issue is rather quantitative, please reread, my polish friend. You can > put anything there squared, including c which is no more than a constant. > If we initially know c in cm/s and m in grams, we can calculate the energy in ergs directly from the equation. If we want the result in Joules, we can just apply the conversion factor 10^-7. Alternatively, we can convert our inputs into m/s and kg, by dividing c by 100, and m by 1000, and get the same result. But this only works if the exponent of c is two. For any other exponent, the outcome will depend on whether we convert the inputs to the equation, or convert the result. This is why the dimensions have to be consistent - if they are not, then we arrive at an inconsistency, which tells us that the equation must be wrong. In summary, a dimensionally consistent equation is not necessarily right, but a dimensionally inconsistent equation is definitely wrong. Sylvia.
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| From | Ntowicz Usarczyk <iswso@wioioksi.io> |
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| Date | 2018-11-06 20:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <prst3k$bbh$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #476359 |
On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 10:57:46 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 6/11/2018 7:51 am, Buck Dehner wrote: >> Libor Striz wrote: >> >>> Buck Dehner <uktoa@yswdoez.cb> Wrote in message: >>>> Negative. E=mc² is invalid from head to tail. Based entirely on >>>> circular reasoning and assumed assertions. When you can prove that >>>> E=/=mc³ or that E=/=mc^1.6 wake me up. >>> >>> Simple dimensional analysis tells the exponent 2 is the only one >>> possible. As only mc^2 has dimension of energy. >> >> The issue is rather quantitative, please reread, my polish friend. You >> can put anything there squared, including c which is no more than a >> constant. > > But this only works if the exponent of c is two. For any other exponent, > the outcome will depend on whether we convert the inputs to the > equation, or convert the result. Come on, and that thing must be true because it only works with a power of two down there. Du you think we are stupid? That's why the "energy" is still ill defined, right now as we speech.
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