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Witch box ?

Started byKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
First post2018-10-30 17:24 +0000
Last post2018-11-12 17:01 +0000
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  Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 17:24 +0000
    Re: Witch box ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 18:13 +0000
      Re: Witch box ? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-30 19:19 +0000
        Re: Witch box ? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-04 19:39 -0800
          Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 09:23 +0000
      Re: Witch box ? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-30 19:21 +0000
        Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 09:49 +0000
    Re: Witch box ? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 13:34 -0700
      Re: Witch box ? Buck Dehner <uktaa@yswdooz.ca> - 2018-10-30 21:31 +0000
      Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 00:48 +0000
        Go to the door 100 times. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-30 18:32 -0700
          Re: Go to the door 100 times. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 05:35 +0000
          Re: Go to the door 100 times. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-30 23:33 -0700
            Re: Go to the door 100 times. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-31 23:43 -0700
        Re: Witch box ? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 20:20 -0700
          Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 14:21 +0000
            Re: Witch box ? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 07:23 -0700
              Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 14:54 +0000
                Re: Witch box ? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 08:19 -0700
                Re: Witch box ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 16:19 +0000
                  Re: Witch box ? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 09:48 -0700
                  Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 20:40 +0000
                    Re: Witch box ? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 13:09 -0800
                      Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 21:31 +0000
                        Re: Witch box ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 22:03 +0000
                          Re: Witch box ? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 14:39 -0800
                            Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 00:12 +0000
                              Re: Witch box ? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 17:18 -0800
                                Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 04:58 +0000
                Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 17:37 +0000
            Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 19:46 +0000
    Re: Witch box ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-30 14:47 -0700
      Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 14:35 +0000
        Re: Witch box ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-05 23:22 -0800
    [OT] Which box? (was: Witch box ?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-31 02:31 +0100
      Re: [OT] Which box? (was: Witch box ?) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-31 03:19 +0000
    Only the teacher knows the answer eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 07:59 +0000
      Re: Only the teacher knows the answer eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 13:34 +0000
        Re: Only the teacher knows the answer eh! rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 07:27 -0700
          Re: Only the teacher knows the answer eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 15:11 +0000
      Re: Only the teacher knows the answer eh! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 14:29 +0000
    Re: Witch box ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-06 15:24 -0800
      Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-08 09:30 +0000
        Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-08 21:03 +0000
        Re: Witch box ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-08 22:38 -0800
          Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-09 07:40 +0000
            Re: Witch box ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-08 23:42 -0800
    Re: Witch box ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 17:01 +0000

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#476014

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-01 09:48 -0700
Message-ID<43b33624-f7e8-4153-b79d-e95bbb97259a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#476007
On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 12:19:42 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:


> > explain to you just how the teacher did set it up. He used a 3 BOX
> > set up, but rather than giving the children at the door,the average box 
> > with n sweets, he gives them either of the 2n or n/2 box at random   eh!
> 
> If this were true, then the math teacher would have been lying to 
> the kids. Let’s suppose that the box he initially gave the kids
>  was the n/2 box. Then if he offers a second box, there’s a 50% 
> chance that the second box has
> twice as many treats and 50% chance that the second box has four times as
> many treats. 

Correct, & that's where I suspected that the troll goofed. 

> You don’t understand your own problem. 

Indeed he doesn't. 

He just fails & fails & fails; he cant solve simple math probs, yet, he still thinks that he has what it takes to discuss relativity!

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#476438

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-06 20:40 +0000
Message-ID<b%mED.275097$522.37288@fx35.am4>
In reply to#476007
On 01/11/2018 16:19, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 01/11/2018 14:23, rotchm wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 10:21:01 AM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:
>>>
>>>> As usual Rotchm gives the children THE WORST POSSIBLE ADVICE eh!
>>>
>>> Again you are wrong.
>>
>> No Rotchm, again you are wrong,
>>
>> and before you proceed to make an even bigger fool of yourself let me
>> explain to you just how the teacher did set it up. He used a 3 BOX
>> set up, but rather than giving the children at the door,the average box
>> with n sweets, he gives them either of the 2n or n/2 box at random   eh!
> 
> If this were true, then the math teacher would have been lying to the kids.
> Let’s suppose that the box he initially gave the kids was the n/2 box. Then
> if he offers a second box, there’s a 50% chance that the second box has
> twice as many treats and 50% chance that the second box has four times as
> many treats.


You are mistaking the math teacher for an idiot, Mr.Bodkin.
The teacher offered in exchange for Box 1,
      the box with n sweets in.

keith stein
P.S. Sorry for the delay in responding,
been busy on other threads eh!



> 
> You don’t understand your own problem.
> 
>>
>>
>>> This is not the first time that I argue that u r wrong and where you eventually concede.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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#476442

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-06 13:09 -0800
Message-ID<9629d6b0-911a-4c50-ac33-946f0ec0c2e0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#476438
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 3:40:42 PM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 01/11/2018 16:19, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> > If this were true, then the math teacher would have been lying 

> You are mistaking the math teacher for an idiot, Mr.Bodkin.

No he is not.
Bod is right in claiming that the teacher would have been lying, or that you totally blundered your own riddle, as I have been claiming. Forget it; you failed big time in this thread; you were shown wrong... Move on...

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#476446

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-06 21:31 +0000
Message-ID<IKnED.176967$QD7.68148@fx44.am4>
In reply to#476442
On 06/11/2018 21:09, rotchm wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 3:40:42 PM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote:
>> On 01/11/2018 16:19, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
>>> If this were true, then the math teacher would have been lying
> 
>> You are mistaking the math teacher for an idiot, Mr.Bodkin.
> 
> No he is not.
> Bod is right in claiming that the teacher would have been lying, or that you totally blundered your own riddle, as I have been claiming. Forget it; you failed big time in this thread; you were shown wrong... Move on...
> 


On 01/11/2018 16:19, Odd Bodkin wrote:
 > Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:
 >> On 01/11/2018 14:23, rotchm wrote:
 >>> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 10:21:01 AM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:
 >>>
 >>>> As usual Rotchm gives the children THE WORST POSSIBLE ADVICE eh!
 >>>
 >>> Again you are wrong.
 >>
 >> No Rotchm, again you are wrong,
 >>
 >> and before you proceed to make an even bigger fool of yourself let me
 >> explain to you just how the teacher did set it up. He used a 3 BOX
 >> set up, but rather than giving the children at the door,the average box
 >> with n sweets, he gives them either of the 2n or n/2 box at random   eh!
 >
 > If this were true, then the math teacher would have been lying to the 
kids.
 > Let’s suppose that the box he initially gave the kids was the n/2 
box. Then
 > if he offers a second box, there’s a 50% chance that the second box has
 > twice as many treats and 50% chance that the second box has four times as
 > many treats.


You are mistaking the math teacher for an idiot, Mr.Bodkin.
The teacher offered in exchange for Box 1,
      the box with n sweets in eh!

keith stein

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#476450

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-06 22:03 +0000
Message-ID<prt33k$mu3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#476446
Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 06/11/2018 21:09, rotchm wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 3:40:42 PM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote:
>>> On 01/11/2018 16:19, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> 
>>>> If this were true, then the math teacher would have been lying
>> 
>>> You are mistaking the math teacher for an idiot, Mr.Bodkin.
>> 
>> No he is not.
>> Bod is right in claiming that the teacher would have been lying, or that
>> you totally blundered your own riddle, as I have been claiming. Forget
>> it; you failed big time in this thread; you were shown wrong... Move on...
>> 
> 
> 
> On 01/11/2018 16:19, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 01/11/2018 14:23, rotchm wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 10:21:01 AM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> As usual Rotchm gives the children THE WORST POSSIBLE ADVICE eh!
>>>> 
>>>> Again you are wrong.
>>> 
>>> No Rotchm, again you are wrong,
>>> 
>>> and before you proceed to make an even bigger fool of yourself let me
>>> explain to you just how the teacher did set it up. He used a 3 BOX
>>> set up, but rather than giving the children at the door,the average box
>>> with n sweets, he gives them either of the 2n or n/2 box at random   eh!
>> 
>> If this were true, then the math teacher would have been lying to the 
> kids.
>> Let’s suppose that the box he initially gave the kids was the n/2 
> box. Then
>> if he offers a second box, there’s a 50% chance that the second box has
>> twice as many treats and 50% chance that the second box has four times as
>> many treats.
> 
> 
> You are mistaking the math teacher for an idiot, Mr.Bodkin.
> The teacher offered in exchange for Box 1,
>      the box with n sweets in eh!

Note that’s different than what you wrote above. 

> 
> keith stein
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#476453

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-06 14:39 -0800
Message-ID<55b3ae08-02b2-43de-bd1f-b6beaf12cb1a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#476450
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 5:03:36 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:

> Note that’s different than what you wrote above. 

He's to much of a coward to admit he totally goofed his own puzzle that he changes it  as he goes along... We know too well these tactics of these cranks.

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#476458

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-07 00:12 +0000
Message-ID<I5qED.108739$RM7.22689@fx24.am4>
In reply to#476453
On 30/10/2018 20:34, rotchm wrote:
 > On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 1:24:11 PM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:

 >>                 " TRICK or TREAT ?"
 >>
 >> The math teacher came to the door with a box containing sweets,
 >> and handed it to the children. "Wait there a moment" he said.
 >>
 >> A moment later he reappeared at the door carrying a second box.
 >> "Now you must choose which box you want." he says "I can tell you
 >> that there is a 50% chance that this box has twice as many sweets,
 >> but there is a 50% chance that it only has half as many sweets as
 >> that first box, so which box do you want, the first box, or the
 >> second box ?".
 >>
 >> Witch box should the children choose?

 > A simple & direct problem. No 'catches' in there.
 > The expectation is higher for the switch.


No,No and No eh!

:)  L)  :)

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#476462

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-06 17:18 -0800
Message-ID<f6589489-54ec-4811-8338-0d540801f833@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#476458
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 7:12:27 PM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 30/10/2018 20:34, rotchm wrote:

>  > A simple & direct problem. No 'catches' in there.
>  > The expectation is higher for the switch.
> 
> 
> No,No and No eh!

Well, yes, as you agreed. Now you are contradicting yourself. Google kept a record.

Face it, you are just an idiot who's goal now is only to have some attention. 

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#476469

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-07 04:58 +0000
Message-ID<4iuED.193387$e55.157587@fx39.am4>
In reply to#476462
On 07/11/2018 01:18, rotchm wrote:
......... Google kept a record.


On 30/10/2018 20:34, rotchm wrote:
 > On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 1:24:11 PM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:

 >>                 " TRICK or TREAT ?"
 >>
 >> The math teacher came to the door with a box containing sweets,
 >> and handed it to the children. "Wait there a moment" he said.
 >>
 >> A moment later he reappeared at the door carrying a second box.
 >> "Now you must choose which box you want." he says "I can tell you
 >> that there is a 50% chance that this box has twice as many sweets,
 >> but there is a 50% chance that it only has half as many sweets as
 >> that first box, so which box do you want, the first box, or the
 >> second box ?".
 >>
 >> Witch box should the children choose?

 > A simple & direct problem. No 'catches' in there.
 > The expectation is higher for the switch.

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#476023

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-01 17:37 +0000
Message-ID<cRGCD.166774$F96.157492@fx40.am4>
In reply to#476001
On 01/11/2018 14:54, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 01/11/2018 14:23, rotchm wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 10:21:01 AM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:
>>
>>> As usual Rotchm gives the children THE WORST POSSIBLE ADVICE eh!
>>
>> Again you are wrong.
> 
> No Rotchm, again you are wrong,
> 
> and before you proceed to make an even bigger fool of yourself let me
> explain to you just how the teacher did set it up. He used a 3 BOX
> set up, but rather than giving the children at the door,the average box 
> with n sweets, he gives them either of the 2n or n/2 box at random   eh!
> 

and keeping the average box with n sweets for himself -to present to the
children as their choice to SWAP with,so as to ensure that they do have
a 50% chance that the box has twice as much,and a 50% chance that it
only has half as much, as promised eh!

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#476032

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-01 19:46 +0000
Message-ID<1KICD.175953$1C7.52893@fx38.am4>
In reply to#475991
On 01/11/2018 14:21, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 31/10/2018 03:20, rotchm wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 8:48:13 PM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:
>>
>>>     So the children swapped their box for the second box.
>>>     Then the math teacher, holding up the first box said
>>>
>>>      "There is a 50% chance that this box has twice as many sweets,
>>>       but there is a 50% chance that it only has half as many sweets as
>>>       that second box, so which box do you want, the first box, or the
>>>       second box ?".
>>>
>>> "OH WHAT SHOULD WE DO NOW, CLEVER ROTCHM ????" said the children.
>>
>> No matter what the teacher says after the initial swap,
>> the expectation in keeping it remains as is. Swapping
>> a second time will just reduce the expectation back to
>> the initial value. So, no, the children are not to swap a second time.
> 
> 
> As usual Rotchm gives the children THE WORST POSSIBLE ADVICE eh!

On 01/11/2018 14:23, rotchm wrote:

 > Again you are wrong.

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#475918

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-10-30 14:47 -0700
Message-ID<prajh5$fe8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#475896
On 10/30/2018 10:24 AM, Keith Stein wrote:
>                 " TRICK or TREAT ? "
> 
> The math teacher came to the door with a box containing sweets,
> and handed it to the children. "Wait there a moment" he said.
> 
> A moment later he reappeared at the door carrying a second box.
> "Now you must choose which box you want." he says "I can tell you
> that there is a 50% chance that this box has twice as many sweets,
> but there is a 50% chance that it only has half as many sweets as
> that first box, so which box do you want, the first box, or the
> second box ?".
> 
> Witch box should
>   the children choose ?
> (Assuming they wish to maximize their sweet collection eh!)

Would a gambler flip the coin? Think if a kid weighed the first box and 
said "Ahh, that's good enough." ;^)

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#475996

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-01 14:35 +0000
Message-ID<_aECD.229173$8g.91064@fx08.am4>
In reply to#475918
On 30/10/2018 21:47, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 10/30/2018 10:24 AM, Keith Stein wrote:
>>                 " TRICK or TREAT ? "
>>
>> The math teacher came to the door with a box containing sweets,
>> and handed it to the children. "Wait there a moment" he said.
>>
>> A moment later he reappeared at the door carrying a second box.
>> "Now you must choose which box you want." he says "I can tell you
>> that there is a 50% chance that this box has twice as many sweets,
>> but there is a 50% chance that it only has half as many sweets as
>> that first box, so which box do you want, the first box, or the
>> second box ?".
>>
>> Witch box should
>>   the children choose ?
>> (Assuming they wish to maximize their sweet collection eh!)
> 
> Would a gambler flip the coin? Think if a kid weighed the first box and 
> said 
                  "Ahh, that's good enough."



if you, Mr. Thomasson, are recommending that the children should be 
content, (i.e. to 'STICK'), then indeed i think you were in fact the
ONLY ONE, who gave those children ( at the door on HALLOWEEN NIGHT ),
SOUND ADVICE
   eh!
> ;^)

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#476393

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-11-05 23:22 -0800
Message-ID<prrfer$tq8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#475996
On 11/1/2018 7:35 AM, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 30/10/2018 21:47, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 10/30/2018 10:24 AM, Keith Stein wrote:
>>>                 " TRICK or TREAT ? "
>>>
>>> The math teacher came to the door with a box containing sweets,
>>> and handed it to the children. "Wait there a moment" he said.
>>>
>>> A moment later he reappeared at the door carrying a second box.
>>> "Now you must choose which box you want." he says "I can tell you
>>> that there is a 50% chance that this box has twice as many sweets,
>>> but there is a 50% chance that it only has half as many sweets as
>>> that first box, so which box do you want, the first box, or the
>>> second box ?".
>>>
>>> Witch box should
>>>   the children choose ?
>>> (Assuming they wish to maximize their sweet collection eh!)
>>
>> Would a gambler flip the coin? Think if a kid weighed the first box 
>> and said 
>                   "Ahh, that's good enough."
> 
> 
> 
> if you, Mr. Thomasson, are recommending that the children should be 
> content, (i.e. to 'STICK'), then indeed i think you were in fact the
> ONLY ONE, who gave those children ( at the door on HALLOWEEN NIGHT ),
> SOUND ADVICE
>    eh!

Thank you Keith. :^)

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#475924 — [OT] Which box? (was: Witch box ?)

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-10-31 02:31 +0100
Subject[OT] Which box? (was: Witch box ?)
Message-ID<9559154e-97e5-d169-38ca-3f45307977b5@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#475896
Keith Stein amok-crossposted to sci.physics.relativity and sci.physics, even
though the charter explicitly says not to do that:
>                 " TRICK or TREAT ? "
>
> The math teacher […]
>
> Witch box should
>   the children choose ?
> (Assuming they wish to maximize their sweet collection eh!)

You are in violation of the charters of sci.physics.ALL, and you are wildly
off topic.  Subject like these belong in sci.math instead.

Physics uses mathematics only as a tool, not to solve purely mathematical
problems like this.  Therefore, any mathematical subject that has no
relation to physics is off topic.  This one certainly has no relation to
physics.

Also, the question word is spelled “_which_”.  And it is “sweets collection”
or “collection of sweets”; in British English, “sweet” is a noun indeed, but
as a collection always contains more than one piece, you have to use the
plural form.  Finally, (different to French) in English a sentence ending
mark and a closing quotation mark are not preceded by whitespace, and an
opening quotation mark is not followed by whitespace.

F’up2 sci.math

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#475927 — Re: [OT] Which box? (was: Witch box ?)

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-10-31 03:19 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] Which box? (was: Witch box ?)
Message-ID<prb70a$bou$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#475924
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> writes:

>Keith Stein amok-crossposted to sci.physics.relativity and sci.physics, even
>though the charter explicitly says not to do that:

[snip whining]

>Also, the question word is spelled “_which_

Are you really that stuck up that you don't even get his joke?
Hint: Halloween...

[snip more whining]

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#475980 — Only the teacher knows the answer eh!

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-01 07:59 +0000
SubjectOnly the teacher knows the answer eh!
Message-ID<unyCD.125069$el1.13951@fx34.am4>
In reply to#475896
On 30/10/2018 17:24, Keith Stein wrote:
>                 " TRICK or TREAT ? "
> 
> The math teacher came to the door with a box containing sweets,
> and handed it to the children. "Wait there a moment" he said.
> 
> A moment later he reappeared at the door carrying a second box.
> "Now you must choose which box you want." he says "I can tell you
> that there is a 50% chance that this box has twice as many sweets,
> but there is a 50% chance that it only has half as many sweets as
> that first box, so which box do you want, the first box, or the
> second box ?".
> 
> Witch box should
>   the children choose ?

It may be that the best strategy is to swap once, and only once,
as recommended by Rotchm:

     "The expectation is higher for the switch."rotchm

This would indeed be the case if he had prepared a box with 'n' sweets
to hand initially to the children. He had also prepared a second box 
with '2n' sweets,and a third box with 'n/2' sweets, which he shuffles
so that he himself does not know which has '2n' and which has 'n/2'.


However it could also be true that:

  "It doesn't matter if you (randomly) take the first box or not;
   it all evens out in the end, after 100 visits." Jeff Relf

This would indeed be the case is he had prepared just two boxes,
one with 'n' sweets, and one with '2n' sweets, which again he
shuffles, so that he doesn't know witch is witch, and this would
be easier eh!

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#475985 — Re: Only the teacher knows the answer eh!

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-01 13:34 +0000
SubjectRe: Only the teacher knows the answer eh!
Message-ID<%hDCD.101937$%N3.89725@fx11.am4>
In reply to#475980
On 01/11/2018 07:59, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 30/10/2018 17:24, Keith Stein wrote:
>>                 " TRICK or TREAT ? "
>>
>> The math teacher came to the door with a box containing sweets,
>> and handed it to the children. "Wait there a moment" he said.
>>
>> A moment later he reappeared at the door carrying a second box.
>> "Now you must choose which box you want." he says "I can tell you
>> that there is a 50% chance that this box has twice as many sweets,
>> but there is a 50% chance that it only has half as many sweets as
>> that first box, so which box do you want, the first box, or the
>> second box ?".
>>
>> Witch box should
>>   the children choose ?
> 
> It may be that the best strategy is to swap once, and only once,
> as recommended by Rotchm:
> 
>      "The expectation is higher for the switch."rotchm
> 
> This would indeed be the case if he had prepared a box with 'n' sweets
> to hand initially to the children. He had also prepared a second box 
> with '2n' sweets,and a third box with 'n/2' sweets, which he shuffles
> so that he himself does not know which has '2n' and which has 'n/2'.
> 
> 
> However it could also be true that:
> 
>   "It doesn't matter if you (randomly) take the first box or not;
>    it all evens out in the end, after 100 visits." Jeff Relf
> 
> This would indeed be the case is he had prepared just two boxes,
> one with 'n' sweets, and one with '2n' sweets, which again he
> shuffles, so that he doesn't know witch is witch, and this would
> be easier eh!


I should add,
that in the way the teacher did actually did set it up,
both Rotchm and Jeff were BOTH    WRONG            eh!

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#475994 — Re: Only the teacher knows the answer eh!

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-01 07:27 -0700
SubjectRe: Only the teacher knows the answer eh!
Message-ID<ca470748-6923-4283-b0b9-a6abd690069a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475985
On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 9:34:54 AM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 01/11/2018 07:59, Keith Stein wrote:
 
> I should add,
> that in the way the teacher did actually did set it up,
> both Rotchm and Jeff were BOTH    WRONG            eh!

Nope. I am right. Show ur 'solution' & I will point out the error in ur reasoning. 

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#476002 — Re: Only the teacher knows the answer eh!

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-01 15:11 +0000
SubjectRe: Only the teacher knows the answer eh!
Message-ID<cJECD.158511$6N5.136509@fx29.am4>
In reply to#475994
On 01/11/2018 14:27, rotchm wrote:
> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 9:34:54 AM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:
>> On 01/11/2018 07:59, Keith Stein wrote:
>   
>> I should add,
>> that in the way the teacher did actually did set it up,
>> both Rotchm and Jeff were BOTH    WRONG            eh!
> 
> Nope. I am right. Show ur 'solution' & I will point out the error in ur reasoning.
> 

On 01/11/2018 14:54, Keith Stein wrote:
 > On 01/11/2018 14:23, rotchm wrote:
 >> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 10:21:01 AM UTC-4, Keith Stein wrote:
 >>
 >>> As usual Rotchm gives the children THE WORST POSSIBLE ADVICE eh!
 >>
 >> Again you are wrong.
 >
 > No Rotchm, again you are wrong,
 >
 > and before you proceed to make an even bigger fool of yourself let me
 > explain to you just how the teacher did set it up. He used a 3 BOX
 > set up, but rather than giving the children at the door,the average
 > with n sweets, he gives them either of the 2n or n/2 box at random
 > eh!

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