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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

Started byRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
First post2018-08-31 08:07 -0700
Last post2018-12-07 09:49 +0000
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  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 08:07 -0700
    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:46 +0000
      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 10:00 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 17:22 +0000
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 11:09 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:40 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 12:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 21:22 +0000
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 21:52 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 14:01 +0000
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-01 09:58 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 11:23 -0400
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 09:13 -0700
                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 14:44 -0400
                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 11:58 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 15:57 -0400
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 13:14 -0700
                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 17:25 -0400
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 14:45 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 19:51 -0400
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 22:33 -0700
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-31 20:37 +0200
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 12:15 -0700
      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 12:52 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 21:50 +0000
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 16:27 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-01 00:51 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 01:21 +0000
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 20:48 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 01:18 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 20:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 03:51 -0700
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:41 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Fattore Nzavecchia <avcir@valecw.ba> - 2018-09-01 12:46 +0000
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 09:31 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 06:33 -0700
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 09:37 -0700
                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 11:32 -0700
                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:54 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:44 -0700
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 22:02 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 16:01 -0700
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 22:08 -0700
                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 04:30 -0700
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 05:24 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 05:30 -0700
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 06:16 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Jeanclaude Erald <urdu@iufienv.vu> - 2018-09-02 12:36 +0000
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:47 -0700
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:29 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 18:57 +0000
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:37 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 20:46 +0000
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 19:31 -0700
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 21:33 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 03:37 -0700
                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 05:39 -0700
                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 10:40 -0700
                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 18:21 -0700
                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 19:22 -0700
                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 19:41 -0700
                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 20:12 -0700
                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 20:26 -0700
                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-04 03:29 -0700
                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 07:15 -0700
                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-04 14:50 +0000
                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-04 23:38 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:00 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 00:33 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:34 +0000
                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 08:39 -0700
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 15:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:44 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 19:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:46 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-05 14:38 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:00 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-05 19:06 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 21:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:03 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:10 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:17 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:36 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:57 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 23:12 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 22:11 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:54 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 02:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 20:57 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 05:07 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:00 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 07:35 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 16:39 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 10:34 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-06 15:13 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 13:47 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:59 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 22:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 23:09 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:22 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 15:45 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 15:58 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 16:01 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 00:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:57 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 17:34 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 13:11 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 00:45 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:54 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 01:04 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 16:32 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:06 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:17 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:29 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:43 +0000
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 16:06 +0000
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:50 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 17:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:21 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 19:48 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:57 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 22:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:49 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:24 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:00 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:47 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:57 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 16:04 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:47 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:22 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-07 05:30 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 11:59 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 13:16 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 22:25 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 15:58 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 00:39 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:58 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 12:20 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 06:55 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 16:13 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:38 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 16:51 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 11:55 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 12:19 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 14:47 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 15:25 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 16:06 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:41 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 20:51 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 06:49 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 07:41 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 09:51 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 18:53 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 10:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 05:21 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 10:36 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-08 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 12:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 05:22 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 10:40 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 05:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 16:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 13:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 10:28 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 13:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 04:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> - 2018-09-09 11:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 05:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 12:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 17:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 19:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 19:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 20:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 21:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 04:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-10 05:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 06:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 08:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 08:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:41 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 03:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 12:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 06:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:28 -0700
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#475123

Fromrbwinn3@gmail.com
Date2018-10-17 11:33 -0700
Message-ID<b6493560-1736-43a9-92da-5c69b24cb5a1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475118
On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 10:40:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >> 
> > At one time we could buy those trees.  That made them our trees.  Now you
> > say you want them standing as blackened snags, not turned into lumber. 
> > We are tired of looking at the blackened snags you love so much.  
> > I think we have a better claim to them because we would not just waste
> > them the way you do.   
> >> 
> > 
> 
> I think the key thing to reflect to you here is that with forests, it is
> not true that the choice is between cutting the trees to make lumber or to
> watch them burn. That is what is called a false dichotomy. 
> 
> There are a lot of people in this country, whom the federal government
> represents, that feel strongly that just leaving the trees alone entirely
> is the best thing, for a variety of reasons. This doesn’t have to be all
> trees everywhere but trees in certain protected areas. 

Well, we are back to the nine feeble-minded lawyers again because they were the ones who said that feeble-minded and selfish people in cities were the true owners of the trees, whereas, the Constitution says that the trees should be owned by the state governments where they exist.  The federal government is restricted by the Constitution with regard to the amount of land that can be owned by the federal government within a state.  Instead, in western states, the federal government grabbed all the land and was upheld in this theft by the nine feeble-minded lawyers.  That did not seem so bad until the practice became that the local people could not use the trees.
> 
> You in the other hand complain that you liked living in a protected area
> and you don’t think the trees should be left alone because you needed a job
> where you lived. And you have been upset for 38 years that your desire did
> not match the desires of the public who lived nowhere near the area. You
> have been angrily telling everyone for 38 years that what’s done with
> federally owned trees is none of their business,  and the disposition of
> local resources should be left to the people who live nearby, because jobs
> for the local people trump any other competing interests.
> 
Well, there was also the fact that millions of dollars were spent planting trees, controlling blister rust, clear cutting diseased trees, and otherwise managing the forests which is now entirely gone because the forests are said to manage themselves.
So the forests go back to their previous unmanaged and diseased condition.

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#475144

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-17 21:51 +0000
Message-ID<pq8atm$g9p$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#475123
<rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 10:40:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>>> At one time we could buy those trees.  That made them our trees.  Now you
>>> say you want them standing as blackened snags, not turned into lumber. 
>>> We are tired of looking at the blackened snags you love so much.  
>>> I think we have a better claim to them because we would not just waste
>>> them the way you do.   
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I think the key thing to reflect to you here is that with forests, it is
>> not true that the choice is between cutting the trees to make lumber or to
>> watch them burn. That is what is called a false dichotomy. 
>> 
>> There are a lot of people in this country, whom the federal government
>> represents, that feel strongly that just leaving the trees alone entirely
>> is the best thing, for a variety of reasons. This doesn’t have to be all
>> trees everywhere but trees in certain protected areas. 
> 
> Well, we are back to the nine feeble-minded lawyers again because they
> were the ones who said that feeble-minded and selfish people in cities
> were the true owners of the trees, whereas, the Constitution says that
> the trees should be owned by the state governments where they exist.  

And that is simply not true. What the Constitution says is not up to you.
You may disagree with the Supreme Court about what the Constitution day’s
and how that applies in this case. And you may disagree about whether
precedents count at all in court proceedings. Disagree all you want. Your
channel for expressing your disagreement is your vote. Period, end of
story. And if you think that is not effective enough to convey your wishes,
that’s really sad for you I’m sure. 

> The federal government is restricted by the Constitution with regard to
> the amount of land that can be owned by the federal government within a
> state.  Instead, in western states, the federal government grabbed all
> the land and was upheld in this theft by the nine feeble-minded lawyers. 
> That did not seem so bad until the practice became that the local people
> could not use the trees.
>> 
>> You in the other hand complain that you liked living in a protected area
>> and you don’t think the trees should be left alone because you needed a job
>> where you lived. And you have been upset for 38 years that your desire did
>> not match the desires of the public who lived nowhere near the area. You
>> have been angrily telling everyone for 38 years that what’s done with
>> federally owned trees is none of their business,  and the disposition of
>> local resources should be left to the people who live nearby, because jobs
>> for the local people trump any other competing interests.
>> 
> Well, there was also the fact that millions of dollars were spent
> planting trees, controlling blister rust, clear cutting diseased trees,
> and otherwise managing the forests which is now entirely gone because the
> forests are said to manage themselves.
> So the forests go back to their previous unmanaged and diseased condition.
> 

As the majority of people want. Even if there is a tiny community of people
hungry to cut them down for lumber, calling it much more useful than any
other purpose. 

> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#475167

Fromrbwinn3@gmail.com
Date2018-10-17 21:54 -0700
Message-ID<688b3676-921b-4a99-aea5-d28481c9db66@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475144
On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:51:53 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 10:40:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>>> 
> >>> At one time we could buy those trees.  That made them our trees.  Now you
> >>> say you want them standing as blackened snags, not turned into lumber. 
> >>> We are tired of looking at the blackened snags you love so much.  
> >>> I think we have a better claim to them because we would not just waste
> >>> them the way you do.   
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I think the key thing to reflect to you here is that with forests, it is
> >> not true that the choice is between cutting the trees to make lumber or to
> >> watch them burn. That is what is called a false dichotomy. 
> >> 
> >> There are a lot of people in this country, whom the federal government
> >> represents, that feel strongly that just leaving the trees alone entirely
> >> is the best thing, for a variety of reasons. This doesn’t have to be all
> >> trees everywhere but trees in certain protected areas. 
> > 
> > Well, we are back to the nine feeble-minded lawyers again because they
> > were the ones who said that feeble-minded and selfish people in cities
> > were the true owners of the trees, whereas, the Constitution says that
> > the trees should be owned by the state governments where they exist.  
> 
> And that is simply not true. What the Constitution says is not up to you.
> You may disagree with the Supreme Court about what the Constitution day’s
> and how that applies in this case. And you may disagree about whether
> precedents count at all in court proceedings. Disagree all you want. Your
> channel for expressing your disagreement is your vote. Period, end of
> story. And if you think that is not effective enough to convey your wishes,
> that’s really sad for you I’m sure. 
>
What the Constitution says is up to everyone.  If the nine feeble-minded lawyers make a wrong decision, I am not going to follow them.  What you are saying is that no one is allowed to disagree with the nine feeble-minded lawyers.  That will not fly.  They do not have a judicial dictatorship, however much you would like that to happen.  Their jurisdiction is limited to individual decisions on individual cases.  That is all the Constitution gives them.  So now you tell me, We have a large political faction that says they are a judicial dictatorship.  Too bad.  I am sorry to see you make a mistake like that.   
> > The federal government is restricted by the Constitution with regard to
> > the amount of land that can be owned by the federal government within a
> > state.  Instead, in western states, the federal government grabbed all
> > the land and was upheld in this theft by the nine feeble-minded lawyers. 
> > That did not seem so bad until the practice became that the local people
> > could not use the trees.
> >> 
> >> You in the other hand complain that you liked living in a protected area
> >> and you don’t think the trees should be left alone because you needed a job
> >> where you lived. And you have been upset for 38 years that your desire did
> >> not match the desires of the public who lived nowhere near the area. You
> >> have been angrily telling everyone for 38 years that what’s done with
> >> federally owned trees is none of their business,  and the disposition of
> >> local resources should be left to the people who live nearby, because jobs
> >> for the local people trump any other competing interests.
> >> 
> > Well, there was also the fact that millions of dollars were spent
> > planting trees, controlling blister rust, clear cutting diseased trees,
> > and otherwise managing the forests which is now entirely gone because the
> > forests are said to manage themselves.
> > So the forests go back to their previous unmanaged and diseased condition.
> > 
> 
> As the majority of people want. Even if there is a tiny community of people
> hungry to cut them down for lumber, calling it much more useful than any
> other purpose. 
> 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#475188

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-18 15:40 +0000
Message-ID<pqa9gp$1gdr$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#475167
<rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:51:53 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 10:40:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> At one time we could buy those trees.  That made them our trees.  Now you
>>>>> say you want them standing as blackened snags, not turned into lumber. 
>>>>> We are tired of looking at the blackened snags you love so much.  
>>>>> I think we have a better claim to them because we would not just waste
>>>>> them the way you do.   
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think the key thing to reflect to you here is that with forests, it is
>>>> not true that the choice is between cutting the trees to make lumber or to
>>>> watch them burn. That is what is called a false dichotomy. 
>>>> 
>>>> There are a lot of people in this country, whom the federal government
>>>> represents, that feel strongly that just leaving the trees alone entirely
>>>> is the best thing, for a variety of reasons. This doesn’t have to be all
>>>> trees everywhere but trees in certain protected areas. 
>>> 
>>> Well, we are back to the nine feeble-minded lawyers again because they
>>> were the ones who said that feeble-minded and selfish people in cities
>>> were the true owners of the trees, whereas, the Constitution says that
>>> the trees should be owned by the state governments where they exist.  
>> 
>> And that is simply not true. What the Constitution says is not up to you.
>> You may disagree with the Supreme Court about what the Constitution day’s
>> and how that applies in this case. And you may disagree about whether
>> precedents count at all in court proceedings. Disagree all you want. Your
>> channel for expressing your disagreement is your vote. Period, end of
>> story. And if you think that is not effective enough to convey your wishes,
>> that’s really sad for you I’m sure. 
>> 
> What the Constitution says is up to everyone.  

I’m sure that’s what you’d like to believe. But that is in fact not true.
Interpreting the law is the function of the courts. That’s why they are
there. Now, you may say that you don’t need courts to interpret the law for
you, and you do not respect their function or their decisions. You can then
fuss and say that if they have authority to interpret law, this makes them
some kind of dictatorship, but of course that’s just you. 

I recognize that this country does not work the way you want it to. You
want to believe you have a right to work. You want to believe the courts
can and should be ignored. You want to believe that the thing to do with
natural resources is to give people jobs to consume them, without
reservation. Well, I’m here to break the news that it doesn’t work that way
in reality, and it’s not going to in your lifetime. Already, Mr Trump has
escalated the deficit, something you consider obscene. 

> If the nine feeble-minded lawyers make a wrong decision, I am not going
> to follow them.  What you are saying is that no one is allowed to
> disagree with the nine feeble-minded lawyers.  That will not fly.  They
> do not have a judicial dictatorship, however much you would like that to
> happen.  Their jurisdiction is limited to individual decisions on
> individual cases.  That is all the Constitution gives them.  So now you
> tell me, We have a large political faction that says they are a judicial
> dictatorship.  Too bad.  I am sorry to see you make a mistake like that.   
>>> The federal government is restricted by the Constitution with regard to
>>> the amount of land that can be owned by the federal government within a
>>> state.  Instead, in western states, the federal government grabbed all
>>> the land and was upheld in this theft by the nine feeble-minded lawyers. 
>>> That did not seem so bad until the practice became that the local people
>>> could not use the trees.
>>>> 
>>>> You in the other hand complain that you liked living in a protected area
>>>> and you don’t think the trees should be left alone because you needed a job
>>>> where you lived. And you have been upset for 38 years that your desire did
>>>> not match the desires of the public who lived nowhere near the area. You
>>>> have been angrily telling everyone for 38 years that what’s done with
>>>> federally owned trees is none of their business,  and the disposition of
>>>> local resources should be left to the people who live nearby, because jobs
>>>> for the local people trump any other competing interests.
>>>> 
>>> Well, there was also the fact that millions of dollars were spent
>>> planting trees, controlling blister rust, clear cutting diseased trees,
>>> and otherwise managing the forests which is now entirely gone because the
>>> forests are said to manage themselves.
>>> So the forests go back to their previous unmanaged and diseased condition.
>>> 
>> 
>> As the majority of people want. Even if there is a tiny community of people
>> hungry to cut them down for lumber, calling it much more useful than any
>> other purpose. 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> 



-- 
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#475220

Fromrbwinn3@gmail.com
Date2018-10-18 18:10 -0700
Message-ID<cb8d0126-7d65-4f82-82fc-a8aa74e74ca9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475188
On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 8:40:13 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> >> And that is simply not true. What the Constitution says is not up to you.
> >> You may disagree with the Supreme Court about what the Constitution day’s
> >> and how that applies in this case. And you may disagree about whether
> >> precedents count at all in court proceedings. Disagree all you want. Your
> >> channel for expressing your disagreement is your vote. Period, end of
> >> story. And if you think that is not effective enough to convey your wishes,
> >> that’s really sad for you I’m sure. 
> >> 
> > What the Constitution says is up to everyone.  
> 
> I’m sure that’s what you’d like to believe. But that is in fact not true.
> Interpreting the law is the function of the courts. That’s why they are
> there. Now, you may say that you don’t need courts to interpret the law for
> you, and you do not respect their function or their decisions. You can then
> fuss and say that if they have authority to interpret law, this makes them
> some kind of dictatorship, but of course that’s just you. 
>
It has nothing to do with me.  I am past being subject to courts.  They would have to be pretty far off the charts to ever accuse me of anything again.  I don't break any laws.
 
> I recognize that this country does not work the way you want it to. You
> want to believe you have a right to work. You want to believe the courts
> can and should be ignored. You want to believe that the thing to do with
> natural resources is to give people jobs to consume them, without
> reservation. Well, I’m here to break the news that it doesn’t work that way
> in reality, and it’s not going to in your lifetime. Already, Mr Trump has
> escalated the deficit, something you consider obscene. 
>
Trump is just another party politician.  George Washington said that Political parties and their corrupt politicians would be unable to provide good government.   

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#475168

Fromrbwinn3@gmail.com
Date2018-10-17 22:04 -0700
Message-ID<59f27855-b7a4-4252-8f1b-bfff3d48e23b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475144
On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:51:53 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
unmanaged and diseased condition.
> > 
> 
> As the majority of people want. Even if there is a tiny community of people
> hungry to cut them down for lumber, calling it much more useful than any
> other purpose. 
> 
What is missing in your analysis is that there are trees in the forest that need to be cut if you are going to have healthy trees.  White pine trees get blister rust.  If there is a white pine tree with a dead top from blister rust, spores from the fungus can be spread as far as fifty miles when the wind blows.  I know that would not concern you because of what value are white pine trees on federal land anyway.  To you they have only one use, that is, to be burned in huge forest fires so that city people can understand that there is global warming.  
Cutting diseased trees down and using them for lumber does not mean anyone is hungry to cut them down.  It means that there will be more healthy trees because unhealthy trees are being removed.  The owner of the sawmill where I worked told me that he had kept his sawmill going by buying trees in small timber sales that had blister rust.  I know how wrong this must seem to you because there is a different policy toward diseased trees today.  A diseased tree is just as good as a healthy tree in a forest fire. 

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#475189

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-18 15:40 +0000
Message-ID<pqa9gq$1gdr$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#475168
<rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:51:53 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> unmanaged and diseased condition.
>>> 
>> 
>> As the majority of people want. Even if there is a tiny community of people
>> hungry to cut them down for lumber, calling it much more useful than any
>> other purpose. 
>> 
> What is missing in your analysis is that there are trees in the forest
> that need to be cut if you are going to have healthy trees.  

I think what you are saying that unless mankind consumes resources, then
nature will topple and crumble into ruin. 

I believe fishermen made the same argument about fishing being good for
fish populations, right up to the point where they had fished the coastal
waters clean, and then they said, what are we going to do? We can’t make a
living as fishermen anymore because the waters are overfished and we have
to go way out into the North Sea to find fish. 

I do not believe that nature falls into ruin without man to cull from it. I
think that is a lie men say when they want to keep their jobs. I do not
believe that an untouched forest will collapse under disease or forest fire
because people didn’t turn it into lumber. I think anyone who says that is
a shameless and unthinking liar. 

I do not believe people who say that if they aren’t allowed to do
something, then a greater and sillier calamity will result. That is called
propaganda, and it’s not very appealing. 

> White pine trees get blister rust.  If there is a white pine tree with a
> dead top from blister rust, spores from the fungus can be spread as far
> as fifty miles when the wind blows.  I know that would not concern you
> because of what value are white pine trees on federal land anyway.  To
> you they have only one use, that is, to be burned in huge forest fires so
> that city people can understand that there is global warming.  
> Cutting diseased trees down and using them for lumber does not mean
> anyone is hungry to cut them down.  It means that there will be more
> healthy trees because unhealthy trees are being removed.  The owner of
> the sawmill where I worked told me that he had kept his sawmill going by
> buying trees in small timber sales that had blister rust.  I know how
> wrong this must seem to you because there is a different policy toward
> diseased trees today.  A diseased tree is just as good as a healthy tree in a forest fire. 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#475217

Fromrbwinn3@gmail.com
Date2018-10-18 18:05 -0700
Message-ID<c62dd3fe-049e-4484-abe7-fe60c9b311e4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475189
On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 8:40:13 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:51:53 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > unmanaged and diseased condition.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> As the majority of people want. Even if there is a tiny community of people
> >> hungry to cut them down for lumber, calling it much more useful than any
> >> other purpose. 
> >> 
> > What is missing in your analysis is that there are trees in the forest
> > that need to be cut if you are going to have healthy trees.  
> 
> I think what you are saying that unless mankind consumes resources, then
> nature will topple and crumble into ruin. 

In Lincoln County, Montana, you will have large pockets of rotten hemlock, rotten white fir, white pine with blister rust, Ponderosa pine with bark beetles, rotten cedar trees, etc.  Now you say that does not bother you at all because you do not want any trees used for lumber, and some day it is all going to burn in a huge forest fire.  You city people are running the forests, and you have the kind of forests you want.
 
> I believe fishermen made the same argument about fishing being good for
> fish populations, right up to the point where they had fished the coastal
> waters clean, and then they said, what are we going to do? We can’t make a
> living as fishermen anymore because the waters are overfished and we have
> to go way out into the North Sea to find fish. 
> 
> I do not believe that nature falls into ruin without man to cull from it. I
> think that is a lie men say when they want to keep their jobs. I do not
> believe that an untouched forest will collapse under disease or forest fire
> because people didn’t turn it into lumber. I think anyone who says that is
> a shameless and unthinking liar. 

Well, I know what you say, but you do not know anything.  The acreage of forest burned by forest fires has been more than seven million acres per year since logging was shut down in the west, more than twice what it was when there was logging.  In 2015 10.1 million acres burned.  That fits the agenda of the Democratic Party because they need to convince city people like you that there is global warming.  
> 
> I do not believe people who say that if they aren’t allowed to do
> something, then a greater and sillier calamity will result. That is called
> propaganda, and it’s not very appealing. 
>
You are the one with propaganda.  
Everything you say about trees is Democratic Party propaganda. 
 
> > White pine trees get blister rust.  If there is a white pine tree with a
> > dead top from blister rust, spores from the fungus can be spread as far
> > as fifty miles when the wind blows.  I know that would not concern you
> > because of what value are white pine trees on federal land anyway.  To
> > you they have only one use, that is, to be burned in huge forest fires so
> > that city people can understand that there is global warming.  
> > Cutting diseased trees down and using them for lumber does not mean
> > anyone is hungry to cut them down.  It means that there will be more
> > healthy trees because unhealthy trees are being removed.  The owner of
> > the sawmill where I worked told me that he had kept his sawmill going by
> > buying trees in small timber sales that had blister rust.  I know how
> > wrong this must seem to you because there is a different policy toward
> > diseased trees today.  A diseased tree is just as good as a healthy tree in a forest fire. 
> > 

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#475221

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-19 01:11 +0000
Message-ID<pqbavs$16mm$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#475217
<rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 8:40:13 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:51:53 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> unmanaged and diseased condition.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As the majority of people want. Even if there is a tiny community of people
>>>> hungry to cut them down for lumber, calling it much more useful than any
>>>> other purpose. 
>>>> 
>>> What is missing in your analysis is that there are trees in the forest
>>> that need to be cut if you are going to have healthy trees.  
>> 
>> I think what you are saying that unless mankind consumes resources, then
>> nature will topple and crumble into ruin. 
> 
> In Lincoln County, Montana, you will have large pockets of rotten
> hemlock, rotten white fir, white pine with blister rust, Ponderosa pine
> with bark beetles, rotten cedar trees, etc.  Now you say that does not
> bother you at all because you do not want any trees used for lumber, and
> some day it is all going to burn in a huge forest fire.  You city people
> are running the forests, and you have the kind of forests you want.

I’d like a natural forest, not a lumber forest. Likewise, if I want a
grassland, I don’t want a field of soybeans. 
Thank you very much. 

>  
>> I believe fishermen made the same argument about fishing being good for
>> fish populations, right up to the point where they had fished the coastal
>> waters clean, and then they said, what are we going to do? We can’t make a
>> living as fishermen anymore because the waters are overfished and we have
>> to go way out into the North Sea to find fish. 
>> 
>> I do not believe that nature falls into ruin without man to cull from it. I
>> think that is a lie men say when they want to keep their jobs. I do not
>> believe that an untouched forest will collapse under disease or forest fire
>> because people didn’t turn it into lumber. I think anyone who says that is
>> a shameless and unthinking liar. 
> 
> Well, I know what you say, but you do not know anything.  The acreage of
> forest burned by forest fires has been more than seven million acres per
> year since logging was shut down in the west, more than twice what it was
> when there was logging.  In 2015 10.1 million acres burned.  That fits
> the agenda of the Democratic Party because they need to convince city
> people like you that there is global warming.  

I have no interest in seeing big forest fires. On the other hand, forest
fires did not destroy the trees before man showed up to log it. 

>> 
>> I do not believe people who say that if they aren’t allowed to do
>> something, then a greater and sillier calamity will result. That is called
>> propaganda, and it’s not very appealing. 
>> 
> You are the one with propaganda.  
> Everything you say about trees is Democratic Party propaganda. 

You have your own brand of propaganda, fella. 

>  
>>> White pine trees get blister rust.  If there is a white pine tree with a
>>> dead top from blister rust, spores from the fungus can be spread as far
>>> as fifty miles when the wind blows.  I know that would not concern you
>>> because of what value are white pine trees on federal land anyway.  To
>>> you they have only one use, that is, to be burned in huge forest fires so
>>> that city people can understand that there is global warming.  
>>> Cutting diseased trees down and using them for lumber does not mean
>>> anyone is hungry to cut them down.  It means that there will be more
>>> healthy trees because unhealthy trees are being removed.  The owner of
>>> the sawmill where I worked told me that he had kept his sawmill going by
>>> buying trees in small timber sales that had blister rust.  I know how
>>> wrong this must seem to you because there is a different policy toward
>>> diseased trees today.  A diseased tree is just as good as a healthy
>>> tree in a forest fire. 
>>> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#475238

Fromrbwinn3@gmail.com
Date2018-10-19 05:21 -0700
Message-ID<5279c02d-0a7f-4b7c-b7b8-58c13e4a2ef4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475221
On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 6:11:29 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 8:40:13 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:51:53 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> unmanaged and diseased condition.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> As the majority of people want. Even if there is a tiny community of people
> >>>> hungry to cut them down for lumber, calling it much more useful than any
> >>>> other purpose. 
> >>>> 
> >>> What is missing in your analysis is that there are trees in the forest
> >>> that need to be cut if you are going to have healthy trees.  
> >> 
> >> I think what you are saying that unless mankind consumes resources, then
> >> nature will topple and crumble into ruin. 
> > 
> > In Lincoln County, Montana, you will have large pockets of rotten
> > hemlock, rotten white fir, white pine with blister rust, Ponderosa pine
> > with bark beetles, rotten cedar trees, etc.  Now you say that does not
> > bother you at all because you do not want any trees used for lumber, and
> > some day it is all going to burn in a huge forest fire.  You city people
> > are running the forests, and you have the kind of forests you want.
> 
> I’d like a natural forest, not a lumber forest. Likewise, if I want a
> grassland, I don’t want a field of soybeans. 
> Thank you very much. 
> 
In other words, you do not like farms and houses except for the people you consider useful such as abortion doctors and government employees.  
 
> >> I believe fishermen made the same argument about fishing being good for
> >> fish populations, right up to the point where they had fished the coastal
> >> waters clean, and then they said, what are we going to do? We can’t make a
> >> living as fishermen anymore because the waters are overfished and we have
> >> to go way out into the North Sea to find fish. 
> >> 
> >> I do not believe that nature falls into ruin without man to cull from it. I
> >> think that is a lie men say when they want to keep their jobs. I do not
> >> believe that an untouched forest will collapse under disease or forest fire
> >> because people didn’t turn it into lumber. I think anyone who says that is
> >> a shameless and unthinking liar. 
> > 
> > Well, I know what you say, but you do not know anything.  The acreage of
> > forest burned by forest fires has been more than seven million acres per
> > year since logging was shut down in the west, more than twice what it was
> > when there was logging.  In 2015 10.1 million acres burned.  That fits
> > the agenda of the Democratic Party because they need to convince city
> > people like you that there is global warming.  
> 
> I have no interest in seeing big forest fires. On the other hand, forest
> fires did not destroy the trees before man showed up to log it. 
>
Obviously, you have never seen a forest fire.  
 
> >> 
> >> I do not believe people who say that if they aren’t allowed to do
> >> something, then a greater and sillier calamity will result. That is called
> >> propaganda, and it’s not very appealing. 
> >> 
> > You are the one with propaganda.  
> > Everything you say about trees is Democratic Party propaganda. 
> 
> You have your own brand of propaganda, fella. 
> 
Well, I don't really think so.  I just state facts. 

  
> >>> White pine trees get blister rust.  If there is a white pine tree with a
> >>> dead top from blister rust, spores from the fungus can be spread as far
> >>> as fifty miles when the wind blows.  I know that would not concern you
> >>> because of what value are white pine trees on federal land anyway.  To
> >>> you they have only one use, that is, to be burned in huge forest fires so
> >>> that city people can understand that there is global warming.  
> >>> Cutting diseased trees down and using them for lumber does not mean
> >>> anyone is hungry to cut them down.  It means that there will be more
> >>> healthy trees because unhealthy trees are being removed.  The owner of
> >>> the sawmill where I worked told me that he had kept his sawmill going by
> >>> buying trees in small timber sales that had blister rust.  I know how
> >>> wrong this must seem to you because there is a different policy toward
> >>> diseased trees today.  A diseased tree is just as good as a healthy
> >>> tree in a forest fire. 
> >>> 

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#475240

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-19 12:31 +0000
Message-ID<pqcird$14dl$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#475238
<rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 6:11:29 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 8:40:13 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:51:53 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> unmanaged and diseased condition.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As the majority of people want. Even if there is a tiny community of people
>>>>>> hungry to cut them down for lumber, calling it much more useful than any
>>>>>> other purpose. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> What is missing in your analysis is that there are trees in the forest
>>>>> that need to be cut if you are going to have healthy trees.  
>>>> 
>>>> I think what you are saying that unless mankind consumes resources, then
>>>> nature will topple and crumble into ruin. 
>>> 
>>> In Lincoln County, Montana, you will have large pockets of rotten
>>> hemlock, rotten white fir, white pine with blister rust, Ponderosa pine
>>> with bark beetles, rotten cedar trees, etc.  Now you say that does not
>>> bother you at all because you do not want any trees used for lumber, and
>>> some day it is all going to burn in a huge forest fire.  You city people
>>> are running the forests, and you have the kind of forests you want.
>> 
>> I’d like a natural forest, not a lumber forest. Likewise, if I want a
>> grassland, I don’t want a field of soybeans. 
>> Thank you very much. 
>> 
> In other words, you do not like farms and houses except for the people
> you consider useful such as abortion doctors and government employees.  

I like farms and houses. And I also like reserved areas of untouched
wilderness. The two can coexist, despite your firm belief that’s impossible
or a bad idea. 

>  
>>>> I believe fishermen made the same argument about fishing being good for
>>>> fish populations, right up to the point where they had fished the coastal
>>>> waters clean, and then they said, what are we going to do? We can’t make a
>>>> living as fishermen anymore because the waters are overfished and we have
>>>> to go way out into the North Sea to find fish. 
>>>> 
>>>> I do not believe that nature falls into ruin without man to cull from it. I
>>>> think that is a lie men say when they want to keep their jobs. I do not
>>>> believe that an untouched forest will collapse under disease or forest fire
>>>> because people didn’t turn it into lumber. I think anyone who says that is
>>>> a shameless and unthinking liar. 
>>> 
>>> Well, I know what you say, but you do not know anything.  The acreage of
>>> forest burned by forest fires has been more than seven million acres per
>>> year since logging was shut down in the west, more than twice what it was
>>> when there was logging.  In 2015 10.1 million acres burned.  That fits
>>> the agenda of the Democratic Party because they need to convince city
>>> people like you that there is global warming.  
>> 
>> I have no interest in seeing big forest fires. On the other hand, forest
>> fires did not destroy the trees before man showed up to log it. 
>> 
> Obviously, you have never seen a forest fire.  

Oh I have. One passed three miles from where I live. 
What I said is that there were trees when people showed up in Lincoln
County. They had not all burned to the ground beforehand. Miraculously,
nature did not destroy itself. 

>  
>>>> 
>>>> I do not believe people who say that if they aren’t allowed to do
>>>> something, then a greater and sillier calamity will result. That is called
>>>> propaganda, and it’s not very appealing. 
>>>> 
>>> You are the one with propaganda.  
>>> Everything you say about trees is Democratic Party propaganda. 
>> 
>> You have your own brand of propaganda, fella. 
>> 
> Well, I don't really think so.  I just state facts. 

Like you claiming I said things I never said? So is “I just state facts”
another lie or a joke?

> 
>   
>>>>> White pine trees get blister rust.  If there is a white pine tree with a
>>>>> dead top from blister rust, spores from the fungus can be spread as far
>>>>> as fifty miles when the wind blows.  I know that would not concern you
>>>>> because of what value are white pine trees on federal land anyway.  To
>>>>> you they have only one use, that is, to be burned in huge forest fires so
>>>>> that city people can understand that there is global warming.  
>>>>> Cutting diseased trees down and using them for lumber does not mean
>>>>> anyone is hungry to cut them down.  It means that there will be more
>>>>> healthy trees because unhealthy trees are being removed.  The owner of
>>>>> the sawmill where I worked told me that he had kept his sawmill going by
>>>>> buying trees in small timber sales that had blister rust.  I know how
>>>>> wrong this must seem to you because there is a different policy toward
>>>>> diseased trees today.  A diseased tree is just as good as a healthy
>>>>> tree in a forest fire. 
>>>>> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#475279

Fromrbwinn3@gmail.com
Date2018-10-19 15:47 -0700
Message-ID<bb19dd95-e7b2-4b44-a883-6cd5751c6268@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475240
On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 5:31:44 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 6:11:29 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 8:40:13 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:51:53 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> unmanaged and diseased condition.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> As the majority of people want. Even if there is a tiny community of people
> >>>>>> hungry to cut them down for lumber, calling it much more useful than any
> >>>>>> other purpose. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> What is missing in your analysis is that there are trees in the forest
> >>>>> that need to be cut if you are going to have healthy trees.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> I think what you are saying that unless mankind consumes resources, then
> >>>> nature will topple and crumble into ruin. 
> >>> 
> >>> In Lincoln County, Montana, you will have large pockets of rotten
> >>> hemlock, rotten white fir, white pine with blister rust, Ponderosa pine
> >>> with bark beetles, rotten cedar trees, etc.  Now you say that does not
> >>> bother you at all because you do not want any trees used for lumber, and
> >>> some day it is all going to burn in a huge forest fire.  You city people
> >>> are running the forests, and you have the kind of forests you want.
> >> 
> >> I’d like a natural forest, not a lumber forest. Likewise, if I want a
> >> grassland, I don’t want a field of soybeans. 
> >> Thank you very much. 
> >> 
> > In other words, you do not like farms and houses except for the people
> > you consider useful such as abortion doctors and government employees.  
> 
> I like farms and houses. And I also like reserved areas of untouched
> wilderness. The two can coexist, despite your firm belief that’s impossible
> or a bad idea. 
> 
> >  
> >>>> I believe fishermen made the same argument about fishing being good for
> >>>> fish populations, right up to the point where they had fished the coastal
> >>>> waters clean, and then they said, what are we going to do? We can’t make a
> >>>> living as fishermen anymore because the waters are overfished and we have
> >>>> to go way out into the North Sea to find fish. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I do not believe that nature falls into ruin without man to cull from it. I
> >>>> think that is a lie men say when they want to keep their jobs. I do not
> >>>> believe that an untouched forest will collapse under disease or forest fire
> >>>> because people didn’t turn it into lumber. I think anyone who says that is
> >>>> a shameless and unthinking liar. 
> >>> 
> >>> Well, I know what you say, but you do not know anything.  The acreage of
> >>> forest burned by forest fires has been more than seven million acres per
> >>> year since logging was shut down in the west, more than twice what it was
> >>> when there was logging.  In 2015 10.1 million acres burned.  That fits
> >>> the agenda of the Democratic Party because they need to convince city
> >>> people like you that there is global warming.  
> >> 
> >> I have no interest in seeing big forest fires. On the other hand, forest
> >> fires did not destroy the trees before man showed up to log it. 
> >> 
> > Obviously, you have never seen a forest fire.  
> 
> Oh I have. One passed three miles from where I live. 
> What I said is that there were trees when people showed up in Lincoln
> County. They had not all burned to the ground beforehand. Miraculously,
> nature did not destroy itself. 
> 

The fire of 1910 burned about half of the trees in Lincoln County.  It burned the town of Sylvanite, population about 2000, to the ground.  I know how exciting this must seem.   
> >>>> 
> >>>> I do not believe people who say that if they aren’t allowed to do
> >>>> something, then a greater and sillier calamity will result. That is called
> >>>> propaganda, and it’s not very appealing. 
> >>>> 
> >>> You are the one with propaganda.  
> >>> Everything you say about trees is Democratic Party propaganda. 
> >> 
> >> You have your own brand of propaganda, fella. 
> >> 
> > Well, I don't really think so.  I just state facts. 
> 
> Like you claiming I said things I never said? So is “I just state facts”
> another lie or a joke?

Facts are statements that are true, like the Galilean transformation equations.   
> > 

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#475329

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-20 15:36 +0000
Message-ID<pqfi2e$1rhg$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#475279
<rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 5:31:44 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 6:11:29 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 8:40:13 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:51:53 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> unmanaged and diseased condition.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As the majority of people want. Even if there is a tiny community of people
>>>>>>>> hungry to cut them down for lumber, calling it much more useful than any
>>>>>>>> other purpose. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What is missing in your analysis is that there are trees in the forest
>>>>>>> that need to be cut if you are going to have healthy trees.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think what you are saying that unless mankind consumes resources, then
>>>>>> nature will topple and crumble into ruin. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In Lincoln County, Montana, you will have large pockets of rotten
>>>>> hemlock, rotten white fir, white pine with blister rust, Ponderosa pine
>>>>> with bark beetles, rotten cedar trees, etc.  Now you say that does not
>>>>> bother you at all because you do not want any trees used for lumber, and
>>>>> some day it is all going to burn in a huge forest fire.  You city people
>>>>> are running the forests, and you have the kind of forests you want.
>>>> 
>>>> I’d like a natural forest, not a lumber forest. Likewise, if I want a
>>>> grassland, I don’t want a field of soybeans. 
>>>> Thank you very much. 
>>>> 
>>> In other words, you do not like farms and houses except for the people
>>> you consider useful such as abortion doctors and government employees.  
>> 
>> I like farms and houses. And I also like reserved areas of untouched
>> wilderness. The two can coexist, despite your firm belief that’s impossible
>> or a bad idea. 
>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> I believe fishermen made the same argument about fishing being good for
>>>>>> fish populations, right up to the point where they had fished the coastal
>>>>>> waters clean, and then they said, what are we going to do? We can’t make a
>>>>>> living as fishermen anymore because the waters are overfished and we have
>>>>>> to go way out into the North Sea to find fish. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do not believe that nature falls into ruin without man to cull from it. I
>>>>>> think that is a lie men say when they want to keep their jobs. I do not
>>>>>> believe that an untouched forest will collapse under disease or forest fire
>>>>>> because people didn’t turn it into lumber. I think anyone who says that is
>>>>>> a shameless and unthinking liar. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I know what you say, but you do not know anything.  The acreage of
>>>>> forest burned by forest fires has been more than seven million acres per
>>>>> year since logging was shut down in the west, more than twice what it was
>>>>> when there was logging.  In 2015 10.1 million acres burned.  That fits
>>>>> the agenda of the Democratic Party because they need to convince city
>>>>> people like you that there is global warming.  
>>>> 
>>>> I have no interest in seeing big forest fires. On the other hand, forest
>>>> fires did not destroy the trees before man showed up to log it. 
>>>> 
>>> Obviously, you have never seen a forest fire.  
>> 
>> Oh I have. One passed three miles from where I live. 
>> What I said is that there were trees when people showed up in Lincoln
>> County. They had not all burned to the ground beforehand. Miraculously,
>> nature did not destroy itself. 
>> 
> 
> The fire of 1910 burned about half of the trees in Lincoln County.  It
> burned the town of Sylvanite, population about 2000, to the ground.

Proving that forest fires happen even if the logging hasn’t been shut down.


>  I know how exciting this must seem.   
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do not believe people who say that if they aren’t allowed to do
>>>>>> something, then a greater and sillier calamity will result. That is called
>>>>>> propaganda, and it’s not very appealing. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> You are the one with propaganda.  
>>>>> Everything you say about trees is Democratic Party propaganda. 
>>>> 
>>>> You have your own brand of propaganda, fella. 
>>>> 
>>> Well, I don't really think so.  I just state facts. 
>> 
>> Like you claiming I said things I never said? So is “I just state facts”
>> another lie or a joke?
> 
> Facts are statements that are true, like the Galilean transformation equations.   
>>> 
> 



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#475333

Fromrbwinn3@gmail.com
Date2018-10-20 09:22 -0700
Message-ID<c3f01d66-61bd-4ad4-bd11-49ec05ee856b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475329
On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 8:36:49 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:


> >> Oh I have. One passed three miles from where I live. 
> >> What I said is that there were trees when people showed up in Lincoln
> >> County. They had not all burned to the ground beforehand. Miraculously,
> >> nature did not destroy itself. 
> >> 
> > 
> > The fire of 1910 burned about half of the trees in Lincoln County.  It
> > burned the town of Sylvanite, population about 2000, to the ground.
> 
> Proving that forest fires happen even if the logging hasn’t been shut down.
>

Sylvanite was a mining town.  They did some logging back in 1910.  Here is the thing about logging.  If a fire starts when people are logging, the loggers go fight the fire because loggers consider trees to have value.  Later on, the Forest Service will show up and help fight the fire.  Consequently, the size of forest fires when there was logging was greatly different from what it is now.  I know this is a difficult concept, but I am going to explain it to you anyway.  When loggers were putting out fires while they were little, they did not burn 500,000 acres or a million acres of trees the way they do today.  When I was working for the Forest Service we went to a 42,000 acre forest fire in Montana.  This is a huge forest fire, we were told.  Then I went into the military and went to Vietnam.  While I was there I read about a 150 thousand acre fire in north Idaho, a fire so huge it was written up in Time Magazine.  150 thousand acres is completely ignored today.  That is a little fire by today's standards. Now they burn more than seven million acres per year.  I know you have trouble with mathematical concepts, but I thought I would at least explain the basics, whether you understand it or not.    
> 
> >  I know how exciting this must seem.   
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I do not believe people who say that if they aren’t allowed to do
> >>>>>> something, then a greater and sillier calamity will result. That is called
> >>>>>> propaganda, and it’s not very appealing. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> You are the one with propaganda.  
> >>>>> Everything you say about trees is Democratic Party propaganda. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> You have your own brand of propaganda, fella. 
> >>>> 
> >>> Well, I don't really think so.  I just state facts. 
> >> 
> >> Like you claiming I said things I never said? So is “I just state facts”
> >> another lie or a joke?
> > 
> > Facts are statements that are true, like the Galilean transformation equations.   

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#475334

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-20 16:30 +0000
Message-ID<pqfl6n$1jb$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#475333
<rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 8:36:49 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>>> Oh I have. One passed three miles from where I live. 
>>>> What I said is that there were trees when people showed up in Lincoln
>>>> County. They had not all burned to the ground beforehand. Miraculously,
>>>> nature did not destroy itself. 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The fire of 1910 burned about half of the trees in Lincoln County.  It
>>> burned the town of Sylvanite, population about 2000, to the ground.
>> 
>> Proving that forest fires happen even if the logging hasn’t been shut down.
>> 
> 
> Sylvanite was a mining town.  They did some logging back in 1910.  Here
> is the thing about logging.  If a fire starts when people are logging,
> the loggers go fight the fire because loggers consider trees to have
> value.  Later on, the Forest Service will show up and help fight the
> fire.  Consequently, the size of forest fires when there was logging was
> greatly different from what it is now. 

Actually, forest fires in natural-state woods tend to be smaller too.
Remember Smoky the Bear when everyone was tryin to prevent forest fires?
Turns out that’s not such a good idea, because woodfall and needle bed gets
to be too thick if a fire hasn’t burned in too long. This may come as a
shock, but smaller fires are part of the natural cycle of a mature forest.
Well, forest rangers and conservationists only discovered this in the last
20 years or so, and so there are now overburdened forests, which will
naturally restore themselves if left alone. 

>  I know this is a difficult concept, but I am going to explain it to you
> anyway.  When loggers were putting out fires while they were little, they
> did not burn 500,000 acres or a million acres of trees the way they do
> today.  When I was working for the Forest Service we went to a 42,000
> acre forest fire in Montana.  This is a huge forest fire, we were told. 
> Then I went into the military and went to Vietnam.  While I was there I
> read about a 150 thousand acre fire in north Idaho, a fire so huge it was
> written up in Time Magazine.  150 thousand acres is completely ignored
> today.  That is a little fire by today's standards. Now they burn more
> than seven million acres per year.  I know you have trouble with
> mathematical concepts, but I thought I would at least explain the basics,
> whether you understand it or not.    
>> 
>>> I know how exciting this must seem.   
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I do not believe people who say that if they aren’t allowed to do
>>>>>>>> something, then a greater and sillier calamity will result. That is called
>>>>>>>> propaganda, and it’s not very appealing. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You are the one with propaganda.  
>>>>>>> Everything you say about trees is Democratic Party propaganda. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You have your own brand of propaganda, fella. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I don't really think so.  I just state facts. 
>>>> 
>>>> Like you claiming I said things I never said? So is “I just state facts”
>>>> another lie or a joke?
>>> 
>>> Facts are statements that are true, like the Galilean transformation equations.   
> 
> 



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#475350

Fromrbwinn3@gmail.com
Date2018-10-20 10:57 -0700
Message-ID<0712d8dc-1fbc-40e2-969e-a4c0cfb41b88@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475334
On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 9:30:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 8:36:49 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>>> Oh I have. One passed three miles from where I live. 
> >>>> What I said is that there were trees when people showed up in Lincoln
> >>>> County. They had not all burned to the ground beforehand. Miraculously,
> >>>> nature did not destroy itself. 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> The fire of 1910 burned about half of the trees in Lincoln County.  It
> >>> burned the town of Sylvanite, population about 2000, to the ground.
> >> 
> >> Proving that forest fires happen even if the logging hasn’t been shut down.
> >> 
> > 
> > Sylvanite was a mining town.  They did some logging back in 1910.  Here
> > is the thing about logging.  If a fire starts when people are logging,
> > the loggers go fight the fire because loggers consider trees to have
> > value.  Later on, the Forest Service will show up and help fight the
> > fire.  Consequently, the size of forest fires when there was logging was
> > greatly different from what it is now. 
> 
> Actually, forest fires in natural-state woods tend to be smaller too.
> Remember Smoky the Bear when everyone was tryin to prevent forest fires?
> Turns out that’s not such a good idea, because woodfall and needle bed gets
> to be too thick if a fire hasn’t burned in too long. This may come as a
> shock, but smaller fires are part of the natural cycle of a mature forest.
> Well, forest rangers and conservationists only discovered this in the last
> 20 years or so, and so there are now overburdened forests, which will
> naturally restore themselves if left alone. 
>
Smoky the Bear worked really well in Lincoln County.  It depends on the kind of trees.  Ponderosa pine forests build up needles.  We think it is wonderful that forest rangers and conservationists discovered something.  The Indians used to burn off pine needles and brush when the weather was cool and there had been some rain so that the fire would not get too hot and crown out.  I know how foolish this all must seem to college graduates who think they discovered something.   
> >  I know this is a difficult concept, but I am going to explain it to you
> > anyway.  When loggers were putting out fires while they were little, they
> > did not burn 500,000 acres or a million acres of trees the way they do
> > today.  When I was working for the Forest Service we went to a 42,000
> > acre forest fire in Montana.  This is a huge forest fire, we were told. 
> > Then I went into the military and went to Vietnam.  While I was there I
> > read about a 150 thousand acre fire in north Idaho, a fire so huge it was
> > written up in Time Magazine.  150 thousand acres is completely ignored
> > today.  That is a little fire by today's standards. Now they burn more
> > than seven million acres per year.  I know you have trouble with
> > mathematical concepts, but I thought I would at least explain the basics,
> > whether you understand it or not.    
> >> 
> >>> I know how exciting this must seem.   
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I do not believe people who say that if they aren’t allowed to do
> >>>>>>>> something, then a greater and sillier calamity will result. That is called
> >>>>>>>> propaganda, and it’s not very appealing. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> You are the one with propaganda.  
> >>>>>>> Everything you say about trees is Democratic Party propaganda. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> You have your own brand of propaganda, fella. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> Well, I don't really think so.  I just state facts. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Like you claiming I said things I never said? So is “I just state facts”
> >>>> another lie or a joke?
> >>> 
> >>> Facts are statements that are true, like the Galilean transformation equations.   
> > 

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#475360

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-20 20:07 +0000
Message-ID<pqg1uf$nje$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#475350
<rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 9:30:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 8:36:49 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> Oh I have. One passed three miles from where I live. 
>>>>>> What I said is that there were trees when people showed up in Lincoln
>>>>>> County. They had not all burned to the ground beforehand. Miraculously,
>>>>>> nature did not destroy itself. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The fire of 1910 burned about half of the trees in Lincoln County.  It
>>>>> burned the town of Sylvanite, population about 2000, to the ground.
>>>> 
>>>> Proving that forest fires happen even if the logging hasn’t been shut down.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sylvanite was a mining town.  They did some logging back in 1910.  Here
>>> is the thing about logging.  If a fire starts when people are logging,
>>> the loggers go fight the fire because loggers consider trees to have
>>> value.  Later on, the Forest Service will show up and help fight the
>>> fire.  Consequently, the size of forest fires when there was logging was
>>> greatly different from what it is now. 
>> 
>> Actually, forest fires in natural-state woods tend to be smaller too.
>> Remember Smoky the Bear when everyone was tryin to prevent forest fires?
>> Turns out that’s not such a good idea, because woodfall and needle bed gets
>> to be too thick if a fire hasn’t burned in too long. This may come as a
>> shock, but smaller fires are part of the natural cycle of a mature forest.
>> Well, forest rangers and conservationists only discovered this in the last
>> 20 years or so, and so there are now overburdened forests, which will
>> naturally restore themselves if left alone. 
>> 
> Smoky the Bear worked really well in Lincoln County.  

Well obviously, with those huge fires recently. 

> It depends on the kind of trees.  Ponderosa pine forests build up
> needles.  We think it is wonderful that forest rangers and
> conservationists discovered something.  The Indians used to burn off pine
> needles and brush when the weather was cool and there had been some rain
> so that the fire would not get too hot and crown out.  I know how foolish
> this all must seem to college graduates who think they discovered something.   

Well, rediscovered something. 

Wood from harvested forests is young wood. It’s fine for framing houses,
but old growth wood is better for furniture and stuff that is meant to
last. Harvested forest wood is too porous, too knotty, too variegated in
grain. Fine for construction. 

> 
>>> I know this is a difficult concept, but I am going to explain it to you
>>> anyway.  When loggers were putting out fires while they were little, they
>>> did not burn 500,000 acres or a million acres of trees the way they do
>>> today.  When I was working for the Forest Service we went to a 42,000
>>> acre forest fire in Montana.  This is a huge forest fire, we were told. 
>>> Then I went into the military and went to Vietnam.  While I was there I
>>> read about a 150 thousand acre fire in north Idaho, a fire so huge it was
>>> written up in Time Magazine.  150 thousand acres is completely ignored
>>> today.  That is a little fire by today's standards. Now they burn more
>>> than seven million acres per year.  I know you have trouble with
>>> mathematical concepts, but I thought I would at least explain the basics,
>>> whether you understand it or not.    
>>>> 
>>>>> I know how exciting this must seem.   
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I do not believe people who say that if they aren’t allowed to do
>>>>>>>>>> something, then a greater and sillier calamity will result. That is called
>>>>>>>>>> propaganda, and it’s not very appealing. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You are the one with propaganda.  
>>>>>>>>> Everything you say about trees is Democratic Party propaganda. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You have your own brand of propaganda, fella. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, I don't really think so.  I just state facts. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Like you claiming I said things I never said? So is “I just state facts”
>>>>>> another lie or a joke?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Facts are statements that are true, like the Galilean transformation equations.   
>>> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#475389

Fromrbwinn3@gmail.com
Date2018-10-20 16:13 -0700
Message-ID<dc93aa70-1d5f-4451-ac00-4b3cb7023e34@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475360
On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 1:07:48 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 9:30:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 8:36:49 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>>>> Oh I have. One passed three miles from where I live. 
> >>>>>> What I said is that there were trees when people showed up in Lincoln
> >>>>>> County. They had not all burned to the ground beforehand. Miraculously,
> >>>>>> nature did not destroy itself. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> The fire of 1910 burned about half of the trees in Lincoln County.  It
> >>>>> burned the town of Sylvanite, population about 2000, to the ground.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Proving that forest fires happen even if the logging hasn’t been shut down.
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Sylvanite was a mining town.  They did some logging back in 1910.  Here
> >>> is the thing about logging.  If a fire starts when people are logging,
> >>> the loggers go fight the fire because loggers consider trees to have
> >>> value.  Later on, the Forest Service will show up and help fight the
> >>> fire.  Consequently, the size of forest fires when there was logging was
> >>> greatly different from what it is now. 
> >> 
> >> Actually, forest fires in natural-state woods tend to be smaller too.
> >> Remember Smoky the Bear when everyone was tryin to prevent forest fires?
> >> Turns out that’s not such a good idea, because woodfall and needle bed gets
> >> to be too thick if a fire hasn’t burned in too long. This may come as a
> >> shock, but smaller fires are part of the natural cycle of a mature forest.
> >> Well, forest rangers and conservationists only discovered this in the last
> >> 20 years or so, and so there are now overburdened forests, which will
> >> naturally restore themselves if left alone. 
> >> 
> > Smoky the Bear worked really well in Lincoln County.  
> 
> Well obviously, with those huge fires recently. 


Back when the Forest Service used to fight fires instead of monitoring them, Lincoln County was known as the asbestos forest.  There was an asbestos mine at Libby, Montana, which was one reason for the name.  The other was the fact that there were so few forest fires in the county.  Most of the fires that did happen came from controlled burns that the Forest Service let get away. A good part of the activity of the Forest Service was getting rid of diseased trees.  Now you say you want diseased trees, so that is all in the past.  


> 
> > It depends on the kind of trees.  Ponderosa pine forests build up
> > needles.  We think it is wonderful that forest rangers and
> > conservationists discovered something.  The Indians used to burn off pine
> > needles and brush when the weather was cool and there had been some rain
> > so that the fire would not get too hot and crown out.  I know how foolish
> > this all must seem to college graduates who think they discovered something.   
> 
> Well, rediscovered something. 
> 
> Wood from harvested forests is young wood. It’s fine for framing houses,
> but old growth wood is better for furniture and stuff that is meant to
> last. Harvested forest wood is too porous, too knotty, too variegated in
> grain. Fine for construction. 
> 
Yes, we were interested in construction.  Back in the day a person could buy some lumber and build a good house for a couple thousand dollars.  Now lumber is too expensive and all comes from Canada.  

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#475486

Fromrbwinn3@gmail.com
Date2018-10-22 09:47 -0700
Message-ID<a49d85f8-1edf-48db-aaba-6fc8faaa7299@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#475389
On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 4:13:45 PM UTC-7, rbw...@gmail.com wrote:


    If, as Einstein theorizes, a clock in frame of reference S' is slower than a clock in S, the correct way to represent this mathematically is by two sets of Galilean transformation equations with different variables for time and velocity.  

                        x'=x-vt
                        y'=y
                        z'=z
                        t'=t

t is the time of a clock in S.  t' in this set of Galilean transformation equations is also the time of a clock in S because t'=t.

                        x = x' - v'n'
                        y = y'
                        z = z'
                        n = n'

n' is the time of a clock in S'.  n is also the time of a clock in S' because 
n = n'.  v' is the velocity of S relative to S' according to the time of a clock in S'.  

    Since the Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction, the distance vt is equal in length to the distance v'n', or in other words, v'n'= -vt.

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#475500

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-10-22 18:51 +0000
Message-ID<pql66p$col$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#475486
rbwinn3@gmail.com writes:

>On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 4:13:45 PM UTC-7, rbw...@gmail.com wrote:


>    If, as Einstein theorizes, a clock in frame of reference S' is slower than a clock in S,


No, he did not.

<snip rest as GIGO>

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