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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

Started byRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
First post2018-08-31 08:07 -0700
Last post2018-12-07 09:49 +0000
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  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 08:07 -0700
    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:46 +0000
      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 10:00 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 17:22 +0000
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 11:09 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:40 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 12:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 21:22 +0000
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 21:52 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 14:01 +0000
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-01 09:58 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 11:23 -0400
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 09:13 -0700
                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 14:44 -0400
                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 11:58 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 15:57 -0400
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 13:14 -0700
                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 17:25 -0400
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 14:45 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 19:51 -0400
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 22:33 -0700
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-31 20:37 +0200
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 12:15 -0700
      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 12:52 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 21:50 +0000
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 16:27 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-01 00:51 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 01:21 +0000
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 20:48 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 01:18 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 20:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 03:51 -0700
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:41 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Fattore Nzavecchia <avcir@valecw.ba> - 2018-09-01 12:46 +0000
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 09:31 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 06:33 -0700
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 09:37 -0700
                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 11:32 -0700
                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:54 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:44 -0700
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 22:02 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 16:01 -0700
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 22:08 -0700
                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 04:30 -0700
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 05:24 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 05:30 -0700
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 06:16 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Jeanclaude Erald <urdu@iufienv.vu> - 2018-09-02 12:36 +0000
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:47 -0700
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:29 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 18:57 +0000
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:37 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 20:46 +0000
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 19:31 -0700
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 21:33 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 03:37 -0700
                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 05:39 -0700
                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 10:40 -0700
                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 18:21 -0700
                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 19:22 -0700
                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 19:41 -0700
                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 20:12 -0700
                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 20:26 -0700
                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-04 03:29 -0700
                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 07:15 -0700
                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-04 14:50 +0000
                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-04 23:38 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:00 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 00:33 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:34 +0000
                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 08:39 -0700
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 15:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:44 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 19:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:46 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-05 14:38 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:00 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-05 19:06 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 21:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:03 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:10 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:17 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:36 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:57 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 23:12 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 22:11 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:54 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 02:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 20:57 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 05:07 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:00 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 07:35 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 16:39 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 10:34 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-06 15:13 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 13:47 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:59 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 22:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 23:09 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:22 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 15:45 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 15:58 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 16:01 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 00:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:57 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 17:34 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 13:11 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 00:45 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:54 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 01:04 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 16:32 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:06 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:17 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:29 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:43 +0000
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 16:06 +0000
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:50 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 17:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:21 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 19:48 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:57 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 22:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:49 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:24 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:00 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:47 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:57 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 16:04 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:47 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:22 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-07 05:30 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 11:59 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 13:16 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 22:25 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 15:58 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 00:39 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:58 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 12:20 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 06:55 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 16:13 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:38 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 16:51 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 11:55 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 12:19 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 14:47 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 15:25 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 16:06 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:41 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 20:51 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 06:49 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 07:41 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 09:51 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 18:53 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 10:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 05:21 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 10:36 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-08 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 12:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 05:22 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 10:40 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 05:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 16:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 13:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 10:28 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 13:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 04:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> - 2018-09-09 11:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 05:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 12:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 17:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 19:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 19:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 20:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 21:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 04:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-10 05:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 06:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 08:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 08:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:41 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 03:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 12:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 06:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:28 -0700
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#473765

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-01 22:03 -0700
Message-ID<4b90b9d1-eec5-4b58-b9c5-3ee77f4e18de@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473761
On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:46:54 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:41:43 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:55:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
> >>>>>>>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
> >>>>>>>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
> >>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
> >>>>>>>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are
> >>>>>>>>>>> directing me to pursue.  
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
> >>>>>>>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
> >>>>>>>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
> >>>>>>>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
> >>>>>>>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
> >>>>>>>>>> to look through it.  
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
> >>>>>>>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
> >>>>>>>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
> >>>>>>>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
> >>>>>>>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
> >>>>>>>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
> >>>>>>>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
> >>>>>>>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
> >>>>>>>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
> >>>>>>>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
> >>>>>>>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
> >>>>>>>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
> >>>>>>>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
> >>>>>>>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
> >>>>>>>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
> >>>>>>>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
> >>>>>>>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
> >>>>>>>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
> >>>>>>>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
> >>>>>>>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
> >>>>>>>> have you spent on Usenet today?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
> >>>>>>>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
> >>>>>>>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
> >>>>>>>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
> >>>>>>>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
> >>>>>>>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I read what you write.  
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Not enough to become informed. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
> >>>>>>> equations are the correct equations?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> I already looked at the information.  
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> You looked at the information about length contraction? Marvelous. And to
> >>>> think you said there was no evidence of length contraction first, and then
> >>>> you said you would not look at any information about length contraction.
> >>>> What reference did you look at?
> >>> 
> >>> The first book I read about Special Relativity was in a box of discarded
> >>> books at a library.  
> >> 
> >> Written by whom? Surely you remember the author if you remember the
> >> contents. 
> >> 
> >>> Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories, 
> >> 
> >> That book contains no documented real measurements. 
> >> 
> >>> Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.  
> >> 
> >> Namely? Which books were about experimental measurement tests of
> >> relativity? 
> >> 
> >>> None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.  
> > 
> > If you want to try to convince me that a length contraction exists, go
> > ahead.  The names of books I read about relativity are not important.  If
> > you want to say something, go ahead and say it.  
> > 
> 
> I have no interest in making efforts to convince you of anything. That
> would be something you elect to do on your own, as a grownup is customarily
> expected to do to become informed enough to have an intelligent discussion
> on a subject. 
> 
> I see that in fact you cannot recall any books you’ve read on the
> experimental measurement of length contraction, which is what we were
> talking about. This, despite you saying, “I already looked at the
> information.”
> 
> I also noted that you’ve told me that you’d need a really solid reason to
> walk 20 minutes to go to the library, but then just above, you told me that
> you picked up a book from a discard box at the library, so I know it
> doesn’t take that much to get you off your rear to walk 20 minutes. Maybe
> you can ask someone to drive you in your truck for a three minute drive.
> Maybe one of the global elitists will have enough money to put a couple of
> gallons of gas in it. 
> 
The library I got the book from was in Glendale, Arizona, when I was picking oranges there.  I would never have read it, but another citrus picker picked it out of the box and said, Look, here is a book about Einstein's theory.  Do you want it?  So I took it back to the citrus camp and read it.  
You certainly have my life planned out for me.  So what happens if I do not do some of these things you have assigned me to do?

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#473768

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 05:23 +0000
Message-ID<pouvbo$106v$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473765
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:46:54 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:41:43 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:55:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> directing me to pursue.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
>>>>>>>>>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
>>>>>>>>>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
>>>>>>>>>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
>>>>>>>>>>>> to look through it.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
>>>>>>>>>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
>>>>>>>>>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
>>>>>>>>>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
>>>>>>>>>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
>>>>>>>>>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
>>>>>>>>>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
>>>>>>>>>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
>>>>>>>>>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
>>>>>>>>>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
>>>>>>>>>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
>>>>>>>>>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
>>>>>>>>>> have you spent on Usenet today?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
>>>>>>>>>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
>>>>>>>>>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
>>>>>>>>>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
>>>>>>>>>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
>>>>>>>>>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I read what you write.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not enough to become informed. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
>>>>>>>>> equations are the correct equations?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I already looked at the information.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You looked at the information about length contraction? Marvelous. And to
>>>>>> think you said there was no evidence of length contraction first, and then
>>>>>> you said you would not look at any information about length contraction.
>>>>>> What reference did you look at?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The first book I read about Special Relativity was in a box of discarded
>>>>> books at a library.  
>>>> 
>>>> Written by whom? Surely you remember the author if you remember the
>>>> contents. 
>>>> 
>>>>> Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories, 
>>>> 
>>>> That book contains no documented real measurements. 
>>>> 
>>>>> Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.  
>>>> 
>>>> Namely? Which books were about experimental measurement tests of
>>>> relativity? 
>>>> 
>>>>> None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.  
>>> 
>>> If you want to try to convince me that a length contraction exists, go
>>> ahead.  The names of books I read about relativity are not important.  If
>>> you want to say something, go ahead and say it.  
>>> 
>> 
>> I have no interest in making efforts to convince you of anything. That
>> would be something you elect to do on your own, as a grownup is customarily
>> expected to do to become informed enough to have an intelligent discussion
>> on a subject. 
>> 
>> I see that in fact you cannot recall any books you’ve read on the
>> experimental measurement of length contraction, which is what we were
>> talking about. This, despite you saying, “I already looked at the
>> information.”
>> 
>> I also noted that you’ve told me that you’d need a really solid reason to
>> walk 20 minutes to go to the library, but then just above, you told me that
>> you picked up a book from a discard box at the library, so I know it
>> doesn’t take that much to get you off your rear to walk 20 minutes. Maybe
>> you can ask someone to drive you in your truck for a three minute drive.
>> Maybe one of the global elitists will have enough money to put a couple of
>> gallons of gas in it. 
>> 
> The library I got the book from was in Glendale, Arizona, when I was
> picking oranges there.  I would never have read it, but another citrus
> picker picked it out of the box and said, Look, here is a book about
> Einstein's theory.  Do you want it?  So I took it back to the citrus camp and read it.  
> You certainly have my life planned out for me.  So what happens if I do
> not do some of these things you have assigned me to do?
> 
> 

I have no assignments for you. Either you read about the experimental
measurements of length contraction like you said you did, or you didn’t.
Either one is your choice, as would be lying about it later. 

Either you will read up on a subject enough to be informed when you decide
to discuss it, or you won’t. 

So far you’ve not shown much interest in being informed about Galilean
relativity — all you want to talk about is  the small part about the
equations — or about the observational evidence of length contraction.
You’re just like the religious officials who had no interest in Galileo’s
telescope. 

If you want to just sit there and collect Social Security and utter
nonsense on sci.physics.relativity, that seems consistent with your general
ambitions. 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473782

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 02:50 -0700
Message-ID<194e3bc6-7d2d-4276-b200-2ac57ea3b0ae@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473768
On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 10:23:06 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:46:54 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:41:43 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:55:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> directing me to pursue.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
> >>>>>>>>>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
> >>>>>>>>>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to look through it.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
> >>>>>>>>>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
> >>>>>>>>>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
> >>>>>>>>>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
> >>>>>>>>>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
> >>>>>>>>>> have you spent on Usenet today?
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
> >>>>>>>>>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
> >>>>>>>>>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
> >>>>>>>>>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
> >>>>>>>>>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
> >>>>>>>>>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I read what you write.  
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Not enough to become informed. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
> >>>>>>>>> equations are the correct equations?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I already looked at the information.  
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> You looked at the information about length contraction? Marvelous. And to
> >>>>>> think you said there was no evidence of length contraction first, and then
> >>>>>> you said you would not look at any information about length contraction.
> >>>>>> What reference did you look at?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> The first book I read about Special Relativity was in a box of discarded
> >>>>> books at a library.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> Written by whom? Surely you remember the author if you remember the
> >>>> contents. 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories, 
> >>>> 
> >>>> That book contains no documented real measurements. 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> Namely? Which books were about experimental measurement tests of
> >>>> relativity? 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.  
> >>> 
> >>> If you want to try to convince me that a length contraction exists, go
> >>> ahead.  The names of books I read about relativity are not important.  If
> >>> you want to say something, go ahead and say it.  
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I have no interest in making efforts to convince you of anything. That
> >> would be something you elect to do on your own, as a grownup is customarily
> >> expected to do to become informed enough to have an intelligent discussion
> >> on a subject. 
> >> 
> >> I see that in fact you cannot recall any books you’ve read on the
> >> experimental measurement of length contraction, which is what we were
> >> talking about. This, despite you saying, “I already looked at the
> >> information.”
> >> 
> >> I also noted that you’ve told me that you’d need a really solid reason to
> >> walk 20 minutes to go to the library, but then just above, you told me that
> >> you picked up a book from a discard box at the library, so I know it
> >> doesn’t take that much to get you off your rear to walk 20 minutes. Maybe
> >> you can ask someone to drive you in your truck for a three minute drive.
> >> Maybe one of the global elitists will have enough money to put a couple of
> >> gallons of gas in it. 
> >> 
> > The library I got the book from was in Glendale, Arizona, when I was
> > picking oranges there.  I would never have read it, but another citrus
> > picker picked it out of the box and said, Look, here is a book about
> > Einstein's theory.  Do you want it?  So I took it back to the citrus camp and read it.  
> > You certainly have my life planned out for me.  So what happens if I do
> > not do some of these things you have assigned me to do?
> > 
> > 
> 
> I have no assignments for you. Either you read about the experimental
> measurements of length contraction like you said you did, or you didn’t.
> Either one is your choice, as would be lying about it later. 
> 
> Either you will read up on a subject enough to be informed when you decide
> to discuss it, or you won’t. 
> 
> So far you’ve not shown much interest in being informed about Galilean
> relativity — all you want to talk about is  the small part about the
> equations — or about the observational evidence of length contraction.
> You’re just like the religious officials who had no interest in Galileo’s
> telescope. 
> 
> If you want to just sit there and collect Social Security and utter
> nonsense on sci.physics.relativity, that seems consistent with your general
> ambitions. 
So now you are saying that you are an expert on Galilean relativity. The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  I am sorry to be the one to tell you this.  You are not going to be able to understand them.  

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#473799

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 13:19 +0000
Message-ID<povr98$i9m$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473782
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 10:23:06 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:46:54 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:41:43 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:55:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directing me to pursue.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to look through it.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
>>>>>>>>>>>> have you spent on Usenet today?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
>>>>>>>>>>>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
>>>>>>>>>>>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I read what you write.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Not enough to become informed. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
>>>>>>>>>>> equations are the correct equations?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I already looked at the information.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You looked at the information about length contraction? Marvelous. And to
>>>>>>>> think you said there was no evidence of length contraction first, and then
>>>>>>>> you said you would not look at any information about length contraction.
>>>>>>>> What reference did you look at?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The first book I read about Special Relativity was in a box of discarded
>>>>>>> books at a library.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Written by whom? Surely you remember the author if you remember the
>>>>>> contents. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That book contains no documented real measurements. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Namely? Which books were about experimental measurement tests of
>>>>>> relativity? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you want to try to convince me that a length contraction exists, go
>>>>> ahead.  The names of books I read about relativity are not important.  If
>>>>> you want to say something, go ahead and say it.  
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have no interest in making efforts to convince you of anything. That
>>>> would be something you elect to do on your own, as a grownup is customarily
>>>> expected to do to become informed enough to have an intelligent discussion
>>>> on a subject. 
>>>> 
>>>> I see that in fact you cannot recall any books you’ve read on the
>>>> experimental measurement of length contraction, which is what we were
>>>> talking about. This, despite you saying, “I already looked at the
>>>> information.”
>>>> 
>>>> I also noted that you’ve told me that you’d need a really solid reason to
>>>> walk 20 minutes to go to the library, but then just above, you told me that
>>>> you picked up a book from a discard box at the library, so I know it
>>>> doesn’t take that much to get you off your rear to walk 20 minutes. Maybe
>>>> you can ask someone to drive you in your truck for a three minute drive.
>>>> Maybe one of the global elitists will have enough money to put a couple of
>>>> gallons of gas in it. 
>>>> 
>>> The library I got the book from was in Glendale, Arizona, when I was
>>> picking oranges there.  I would never have read it, but another citrus
>>> picker picked it out of the box and said, Look, here is a book about
>>> Einstein's theory.  Do you want it?  So I took it back to the citrus camp and read it.  
>>> You certainly have my life planned out for me.  So what happens if I do
>>> not do some of these things you have assigned me to do?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I have no assignments for you. Either you read about the experimental
>> measurements of length contraction like you said you did, or you didn’t.
>> Either one is your choice, as would be lying about it later. 
>> 
>> Either you will read up on a subject enough to be informed when you decide
>> to discuss it, or you won’t. 
>> 
>> So far you’ve not shown much interest in being informed about Galilean
>> relativity — all you want to talk about is  the small part about the
>> equations — or about the observational evidence of length contraction.
>> You’re just like the religious officials who had no interest in Galileo’s
>> telescope. 
>> 
>> If you want to just sit there and collect Social Security and utter
>> nonsense on sci.physics.relativity, that seems consistent with your general
>> ambitions. 
> So now you are saying that you are an expert on Galilean relativity. 

I’m confident I know them better than you. You only want to talk about the
equations. 

> The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  

I’m well aware of that. Unfortunately, precision measurements, one of the
things that Galileo strived for, show length contraction. You seem not to
want to look at the things Galileo felt critical. 

> I am sorry to be the one to tell you this.  You are not going to be able
> to understand them.  
> 



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#473824

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 09:12 -0700
Message-ID<ee177945-03fa-4b8b-bcae-d15978af3907@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473799
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 10:23:06 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:46:54 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:41:43 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:55:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directing me to pursue.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to look through it.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have you spent on Usenet today?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
> >>>>>>>>>>>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
> >>>>>>>>>>>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> I read what you write.  
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Not enough to become informed. 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
> >>>>>>>>>>> equations are the correct equations?
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I already looked at the information.  
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> You looked at the information about length contraction? Marvelous. And to
> >>>>>>>> think you said there was no evidence of length contraction first, and then
> >>>>>>>> you said you would not look at any information about length contraction.
> >>>>>>>> What reference did you look at?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> The first book I read about Special Relativity was in a box of discarded
> >>>>>>> books at a library.  
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Written by whom? Surely you remember the author if you remember the
> >>>>>> contents. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories, 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> That book contains no documented real measurements. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.  
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Namely? Which books were about experimental measurement tests of
> >>>>>> relativity? 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.  
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> If you want to try to convince me that a length contraction exists, go
> >>>>> ahead.  The names of books I read about relativity are not important.  If
> >>>>> you want to say something, go ahead and say it.  
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have no interest in making efforts to convince you of anything. That
> >>>> would be something you elect to do on your own, as a grownup is customarily
> >>>> expected to do to become informed enough to have an intelligent discussion
> >>>> on a subject. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I see that in fact you cannot recall any books you’ve read on the
> >>>> experimental measurement of length contraction, which is what we were
> >>>> talking about. This, despite you saying, “I already looked at the
> >>>> information.”
> >>>> 
> >>>> I also noted that you’ve told me that you’d need a really solid reason to
> >>>> walk 20 minutes to go to the library, but then just above, you told me that
> >>>> you picked up a book from a discard box at the library, so I know it
> >>>> doesn’t take that much to get you off your rear to walk 20 minutes. Maybe
> >>>> you can ask someone to drive you in your truck for a three minute drive.
> >>>> Maybe one of the global elitists will have enough money to put a couple of
> >>>> gallons of gas in it. 
> >>>> 
> >>> The library I got the book from was in Glendale, Arizona, when I was
> >>> picking oranges there.  I would never have read it, but another citrus
> >>> picker picked it out of the box and said, Look, here is a book about
> >>> Einstein's theory.  Do you want it?  So I took it back to the citrus camp and read it.  
> >>> You certainly have my life planned out for me.  So what happens if I do
> >>> not do some of these things you have assigned me to do?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I have no assignments for you. Either you read about the experimental
> >> measurements of length contraction like you said you did, or you didn’t.
> >> Either one is your choice, as would be lying about it later. 
> >> 
> >> Either you will read up on a subject enough to be informed when you decide
> >> to discuss it, or you won’t. 
> >> 
> >> So far you’ve not shown much interest in being informed about Galilean
> >> relativity — all you want to talk about is  the small part about the
> >> equations — or about the observational evidence of length contraction.
> >> You’re just like the religious officials who had no interest in Galileo’s
> >> telescope. 
> >> 
> >> If you want to just sit there and collect Social Security and utter
> >> nonsense on sci.physics.relativity, that seems consistent with your general
> >> ambitions. 
> > So now you are saying that you are an expert on Galilean relativity. 
> 
> I’m confident I know them better than you. You only want to talk about the
> equations. 
> 
> > The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  
> 
> I’m well aware of that. Unfortunately, precision measurements, one of the
> things that Galileo strived for, show length contraction. You seem not to
> want to look at the things Galileo felt critical. 

So I am sure you have a link to some conversation by Galileo?  If you want to talk about what Galileo said, go ahead and talk.  If you want to say that I am lazy, go ahead and post a link.  Do whatever you want to do.  

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#473852

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 21:01 +0000
Message-ID<pp0mac$4n7$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473824
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 10:23:06 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:46:54 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:41:43 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:55:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then it is extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uninformed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since I have read descriptions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has occurred, by the way,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directing me to pursue.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to look through it.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have you spent on Usenet today?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I read what you write.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not enough to become informed. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> equations are the correct equations?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I already looked at the information.  
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You looked at the information about length contraction? Marvelous. And to
>>>>>>>>>> think you said there was no evidence of length contraction first, and then
>>>>>>>>>> you said you would not look at any information about length contraction.
>>>>>>>>>> What reference did you look at?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The first book I read about Special Relativity was in a box of discarded
>>>>>>>>> books at a library.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Written by whom? Surely you remember the author if you remember the
>>>>>>>> contents. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories, 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That book contains no documented real measurements. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Namely? Which books were about experimental measurement tests of
>>>>>>>> relativity? 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you want to try to convince me that a length contraction exists, go
>>>>>>> ahead.  The names of books I read about relativity are not important.  If
>>>>>>> you want to say something, go ahead and say it.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have no interest in making efforts to convince you of anything. That
>>>>>> would be something you elect to do on your own, as a grownup is customarily
>>>>>> expected to do to become informed enough to have an intelligent discussion
>>>>>> on a subject. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I see that in fact you cannot recall any books you’ve read on the
>>>>>> experimental measurement of length contraction, which is what we were
>>>>>> talking about. This, despite you saying, “I already looked at the
>>>>>> information.”
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also noted that you’ve told me that you’d need a really solid reason to
>>>>>> walk 20 minutes to go to the library, but then just above, you told me that
>>>>>> you picked up a book from a discard box at the library, so I know it
>>>>>> doesn’t take that much to get you off your rear to walk 20 minutes. Maybe
>>>>>> you can ask someone to drive you in your truck for a three minute drive.
>>>>>> Maybe one of the global elitists will have enough money to put a couple of
>>>>>> gallons of gas in it. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> The library I got the book from was in Glendale, Arizona, when I was
>>>>> picking oranges there.  I would never have read it, but another citrus
>>>>> picker picked it out of the box and said, Look, here is a book about
>>>>> Einstein's theory.  Do you want it?  So I took it back to the citrus
>>>>> camp and read it.  
>>>>> You certainly have my life planned out for
>>>>> me.  So what happens if I do
>>>>> not do some of these things you have assigned me to do?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have no assignments for you. Either you read about the experimental
>>>> measurements of length contraction like you said you did, or you didn’t.
>>>> Either one is your choice, as would be lying about it later. 
>>>> 
>>>> Either you will read up on a subject enough to be informed when you decide
>>>> to discuss it, or you won’t. 
>>>> 
>>>> So far you’ve not shown much interest in being informed about Galilean
>>>> relativity — all you want to talk about is  the small part about the
>>>> equations — or about the observational evidence of length contraction.
>>>> You’re just like the religious officials who had no interest in Galileo’s
>>>> telescope. 
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to just sit there and collect Social Security and utter
>>>> nonsense on sci.physics.relativity, that seems consistent with your general
>>>> ambitions. 
>>> So now you are saying that you are an expert on Galilean relativity. 
>> 
>> I’m confident I know them better than you. You only want to talk about the
>> equations. 
>> 
>>> The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  
>> 
>> I’m well aware of that. Unfortunately, precision measurements, one of the
>> things that Galileo strived for, show length contraction. You seem not to
>> want to look at the things Galileo felt critical. 
> 
> So I am sure you have a link to some conversation by Galileo?  

https://digital.libraries.ou.edu/histsci/books/1466.pdf

> If you want to talk about what Galileo said, go ahead and talk.  If you
> want to say that I am lazy, go ahead and post a link.  Do whatever you want to do.  
> 



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#473893

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 23:38 -0700
Message-ID<779c33ce-f683-4dbf-a7ee-0cbc848dcce4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473852
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:01:04 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> >> 
> >> I’m confident I know them better than you. You only want to talk about the
> >> equations. 
> >> 
> >>> The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  
> >> 
> >> I’m well aware of that. Unfortunately, precision measurements, one of the
> >> things that Galileo strived for, show length contraction. You seem not to
> >> want to look at the things Galileo felt critical. 
> > 
> > So I am sure you have a link to some conversation by Galileo?  
> 
> https://digital.libraries.ou.edu/histsci/books/1466.pdf
> 
> > If you want to talk about what Galileo said, go ahead and talk.  If you
> > want to say that I am lazy, go ahead and post a link.  Do whatever you want to do.  
> > 

Sorry, I just do not have time for hide the thimble.  It is a fun game, though.  

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#473770

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-10-01 23:03 -0700
Message-ID<e79a1be2-c3b8-493e-88b5-eaa298f903d9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473761
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 05:46:54 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:

> 
> I have no interest in making efforts to convince you of anything. 

Yeah. You're just a mindless doggie trained by your
insane ideology to bark at everyone opposing. No
interest of yours.

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#473786

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 12:55 +0100
Message-ID<21JsD.580431$0v.150289@fx07.am4>
In reply to#473720
On 01/10/2018 22:41, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories,
> 
> That book contains no documented real measurements.
> 
>> Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.
> 
> Namely? Which books were about experimental measurement tests of
> relativity?
> 
>> None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.


Excellent Robert. There is of course no real evidence of length contraction.

At the time Einstein was writing 'a meter' was defined as the length
of one particular bar somewhere in Paris. Of course there is no
evidence that that bar will be anything other than exactly one meter
long as one walks away from it, or indeed if one runs away from it
at .99 c eh!

Of course it is possible to change the definition of a meter to
the distance traveled by light in a particular fraction of a second.
In that case the length of a meter is indeed frame dependent, because
the distance traveled by light, or cricket balls, depends on the frame
of reference of the observer.

keith stein

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#473798

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 13:19 +0000
Message-ID<povr99$i9m$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473786
Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/10/2018 22:41, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories,
>> 
>> That book contains no documented real measurements.
>> 
>>> Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.
>> 
>> Namely? Which books were about experimental measurement tests of
>> relativity?
>> 
>>> None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.
> 
> 
> Excellent Robert. There is of course no real evidence of length contraction.

That’s nonsense. The evidence for length contraction is as strong as the
evidence for quarks. 

> 
> At the time Einstein was writing 'a meter' was defined as the length
> of one particular bar somewhere in Paris. Of course there is no
> evidence that that bar will be anything other than exactly one meter
> long as one walks away from it, or indeed if one runs away from it
> at .99 c eh!

But of course you don’t run a test of a principle by using a difficult case
to measure. That would be horrible experimental design. 

> 
> Of course it is possible to change the definition of a meter to
> the distance traveled by light in a particular fraction of a second.
> In that case the length of a meter is indeed frame dependent, because
> the distance traveled by light, or cricket balls, depends on the frame
> of reference of the observer.
> 
> keith stein
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473818

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-10-02 08:49 -0700
Message-ID<9f88c8ff-5d95-4611-9a5c-5bbb0aeb5e4b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473798
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:19:40 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:

> That’s nonsense. The evidence for length contraction is as strong as the
> evidence for quarks. 


How do you measure the strength of an evidence, poor idiot?

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#473825

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 09:14 -0700
Message-ID<cec3c5d5-ebd7-40b1-9b90-8052919b4443@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473798
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> > 
> > Excellent Robert. There is of course no real evidence of length contraction.
> 
> That’s nonsense. The evidence for length contraction is as strong as the
> evidence for quarks. 
>
I would expect that anything supposedly done with these expensive toys scientists have is not very meaningful.   

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#473853

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 21:01 +0000
Message-ID<pp0mac$4n7$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473825
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> Excellent Robert. There is of course no real evidence of length contraction.
>> 
>> That’s nonsense. The evidence for length contraction is as strong as the
>> evidence for quarks. 
>> 
> I would expect that anything supposedly done with these expensive toys
> scientists have is not very meaningful.   
> 
> 

And why do you expect that?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473894

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 23:39 -0700
Message-ID<cc0c87e2-f155-4373-8e68-2e611ffd48ee@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473853
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:01:04 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > 
> >>> 
> >>> Excellent Robert. There is of course no real evidence of length contraction.
> >> 
> >> That’s nonsense. The evidence for length contraction is as strong as the
> >> evidence for quarks. 
> >> 
> > I would expect that anything supposedly done with these expensive toys
> > scientists have is not very meaningful.   
> > 
> > 
> 
> And why do you expect that?
> 
The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  

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#473896

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-10-03 00:21 -0700
Message-ID<5036bb66-4e4f-41fe-8dc6-1f4a78773c7a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473894
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 08:39:31 UTC+2, Robert Winn  wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:01:04 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > > 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Excellent Robert. There is of course no real evidence of length contraction.
> > >> 
> > >> That’s nonsense. The evidence for length contraction is as strong as the
> > >> evidence for quarks. 
> > >> 
> > > I would expect that anything supposedly done with these expensive toys
> > > scientists have is not very meaningful.   
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > And why do you expect that?
> > 
> The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.

They don't have thunders, also. That doesn't mean
they forbid thunders.

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#473904

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-03 08:21 +0000
Message-ID<pp1u5d$1t3k$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473894
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:01:04 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Excellent Robert. There is of course no real evidence of length contraction.
>>>> 
>>>> That’s nonsense. The evidence for length contraction is as strong as the
>>>> evidence for quarks. 
>>>> 
>>> I would expect that anything supposedly done with these expensive toys
>>> scientists have is not very meaningful.   
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> And why do you expect that?
>> 
> The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  
> 
> 

And so what do equations tell you about what is actually observed? 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473911

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-10-03 02:19 -0700
Message-ID<91d26a50-f0df-4eba-8120-e483cb8c6d47@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473904
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 10:21:04 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:01:04 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Excellent Robert. There is of course no real evidence of length contraction.
> >>>> 
> >>>> That’s nonsense. The evidence for length contraction is as strong as the
> >>>> evidence for quarks. 
> >>>> 
> >>> I would expect that anything supposedly done with these expensive toys
> >>> scientists have is not very meaningful.   
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> And why do you expect that?
> >> 
> > The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  
> > 
> > 
> 
> And so what do equations tell you about what is actually observed? 

You're a simple and obvious example: your idiot
guru has provided you some equations, so, being
a brainwashed cultist -  you "observe" what he 
told you.

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#473942

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-03 08:03 -0700
Message-ID<8b957d6c-ccac-4c25-9a46-cd95275eaa5b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473904
On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 1:21:04 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:01:04 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Excellent Robert. There is of course no real evidence of length contraction.
> >>>> 
> >>>> That’s nonsense. The evidence for length contraction is as strong as the
> >>>> evidence for quarks. 
> >>>> 
> >>> I would expect that anything supposedly done with these expensive toys
> >>> scientists have is not very meaningful.   
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> And why do you expect that?
> >> 
> > The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  
> > 
> > 
> 
> And so what do equations tell you about what is actually observed? 
> 
Contrary to what scientists teach, the Galilean transformation equations show that it is possible for different clocks to disagree with each other.  

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#473952

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-03 15:38 +0000
Message-ID<pp2npl$1ckj$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473942
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 1:21:04 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:01:04 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Excellent Robert. There is of course no real evidence of length contraction.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That’s nonsense. The evidence for length contraction is as strong as the
>>>>>> evidence for quarks. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> I would expect that anything supposedly done with these expensive toys
>>>>> scientists have is not very meaningful.   
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And why do you expect that?
>>>> 
>>> The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> And so what do equations tell you about what is actually observed? 
>> 
> Contrary to what scientists teach, the Galilean transformation equations
> show that it is possible for different clocks to disagree with each other.  
> 

Considering that you have no idea really what scientists teach, that’s an
empty remark. Scientists certain know that there are clocks that can be
made to run slow or fast and not agree even if sitting right next to each
other. Would you please name a scientist who has told you such clocks are
impossible?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473961

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-10-03 09:12 -0700
Message-ID<c45f14dd-fcee-49b8-a436-9dfb8ded0e3d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473952
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 17:38:33 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:

> Considering that you have no idea really what scientists teach, that’s an
> empty remark. Scientists certain know that there are clocks that can be
> made to run slow or fast and not agree even if sitting right next to each
> other. Would you please name a scientist who has told you such clocks are
> impossible?


Well, your fellow idiot Gary said they can't be real.
And I've also meet a relativistic idiot insisting that
those numbers on their display can't be their indications.

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