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Why the *Medium* Matters.

Started byKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
First post2018-10-02 09:47 +0100
Last post2018-10-16 19:13 +0100
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  Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 09:47 +0100
    Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-02 04:20 -0700
      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:21 +0100
        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-02 06:02 -0700
          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 14:12 +0100
    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-02 12:39 +0000
      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 14:08 +0100
        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-07 08:40 -0500
          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-07 07:22 -0700
            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-07 14:42 +0000
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-07 17:41 -0700
    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:19 +0000
      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-02 06:56 -0700
        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 14:00 +0000
          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-02 07:12 -0700
            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-02 07:14 -0700
          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-02 07:12 -0700
            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 14:15 +0000
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-02 08:49 -0700
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-02 13:31 -0700
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-03 06:06 -0700
                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-03 06:09 -0700
                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 14:05 +0000
                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-03 07:14 -0700
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 15:38 +0000
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 16:43 +0000
                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-03 08:51 -0700
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 16:06 +0000
                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-03 09:17 -0700
                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-04 07:24 -0700
                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 15:25 +0000
                          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-04 08:53 -0700
                            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 19:22 +0000
                              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-04 14:38 -0700
                                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-04 21:47 +0000
                                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 22:03 +0000
                                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:30 +0100
                                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-05 04:26 -0700
                                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 15:01 +0000
                                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-06 08:11 -0700
                                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-06 08:32 -0700
                                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 20:20 +0000
                                          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-07 07:19 -0700
                                            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 19:19 +0000
                                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-05 01:00 +0000
                              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-04 21:40 -0700
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 16:45 +0000
            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:10 +0100
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-02 09:15 -0700
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-02 09:18 -0700
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-03 06:41 -0700
                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 19:06 +0100
                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-04 07:52 -0700
        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Hilton Packett <wod@wcotahr.ce> - 2018-10-02 20:28 +0000
          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-03 03:32 +0200
            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:18 +0100
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 05:06 +0000
                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 10:51 +0100
                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 09:58 +0000
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-03 03:19 -0700
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 12:28 +0100
                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 12:44 +0000
                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-03 05:57 -0700
                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 14:05 +0000
                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-03 09:16 -0700
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 19:36 +0100
                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 18:59 +0000
                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 19:53 +0000
                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 21:56 +0100
                          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 04:45 +0000
                            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-04 00:06 -0700
                            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 09:58 +0100
                              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-04 02:46 -0700
                              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 10:03 +0000
                                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-04 03:31 -0700
                                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 12:21 +0100
                                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 11:49 +0000
                                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-04 05:42 -0700
                                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 14:46 +0100
                                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 15:25 +0000
                                          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-04 09:41 -0700
                                            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:26 +0100
                                              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-04 11:45 -0700
                                                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 07:15 +0100
                                                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-05 06:39 +0000
                                                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-05 00:31 -0700
                                                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 06:53 +0000
                                                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:51 +0100
                                                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-05 00:58 -0700
                                                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 12:17 +0100
                                                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 14:54 +0000
                                                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-06 08:10 -0700
                                                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 19:17 +0100
                                                          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 20:20 +0000
                                                            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 05:37 +0100
                                                              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 09:17 +0100
                                                                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-07 04:57 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-07 04:59 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-07 05:39 -0700
                                                              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 20:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-06 22:59 -0700
                                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-04 07:13 -0700
                                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 15:25 +0000
                                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-04 09:00 -0700
                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 12:33 +0000
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-03 05:38 -0700
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 11:30 +0100
            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-03 06:18 -0700
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 13:41 +0000
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-03 20:01 +0000
            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-03 20:00 +0000
    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-04 14:28 -0400
      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 06:32 +0100
        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-05 06:44 +0000
          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:03 +0100
        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-07 08:59 -0500
          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-07 07:33 -0700
          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-07 16:37 +0200
            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-08 12:30 -0500
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tc> - 2018-10-08 17:41 +0000
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-08 20:00 +0200
                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-08 22:12 -0500
                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 23:39 -0400
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-08 20:46 -0700
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-09 13:30 -0500
                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-15 22:21 +0200
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 21:14 +0000
                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-15 22:10 -0500
                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-16 08:50 +0200
                          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-16 18:43 -0500
                            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-17 03:30 +0200
                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 22:47 -0400
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-15 22:07 -0500
                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-15 22:14 -0700
                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-16 08:39 +0200
                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-10-16 05:03 -0700
                          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 21:08 +0100
                            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-16 18:50 -0500
                              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-17 03:31 +0200
                              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 06:28 +0100
                                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 13:02 -0400
                                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 18:47 +0100
                            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-19 19:15 +0000
                            Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-22 11:44 -0500
                          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-16 23:11 +0200
                        Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-16 18:41 -0500
                          Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-22 13:04 -0700
              Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-09 06:06 -0700
                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-09 08:45 -0500
                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-09 07:27 -0700
                    Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-09 07:40 -0700
                      Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-09 07:43 -0700
                  Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-10 07:08 -0700
                Re: Why the *Medium* Matters. Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tc> - 2018-10-09 14:04 +0000
    Another Reason "Why the *Medium* Matters." Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 19:13 +0100

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#473779 — Why the *Medium* Matters.

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 09:47 +0100
SubjectWhy the *Medium* Matters.
Message-ID<GgGsD.398188$Yw.358185@fx31.am4>
The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which
the wave travels, and in all cases the wave velocity is
relative to the medium.

Relativists ignore the medium, which is why they can't
unambiguously synchronize two clocks.

I think so.

keith stein

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#473784

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 04:20 -0700
Message-ID<a8f25a59-f414-4ea7-b718-05903f6ee81f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473779
Keith Stein escrito 

The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which the wave travels, and in all cases the wave velocity is relative to the medium. 

Relativists ignore the medium, which is why they can't 
unambiguously synchronize two clocks. 

I think so. 

keith stein 

https://youtu.be/-_IlNbsILLE

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#473789

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 13:21 +0100
Message-ID<MoJsD.330856$9v.155245@fx28.am4>
In reply to#473784
On 02/10/2018 12:20, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> Keith Stein escrito
> 
> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through
> which the wave travels, and in all cases the wave velocity
> is relative to the medium.
> 
> Relativists ignore the medium, which is why they can't
> unambiguously synchronize two clocks.
> 
> I think so.
> 
> keith stein
> 
> https://youtu.be/-_IlNbsILLE 

Thank you Mr.Fuller. Not a bad video, and certainly
much more understandable than you usual profusion of
numbers.
However i failed to see the relevance of the video
to the importance of the *medium*.

keith stein

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#473792

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 06:02 -0700
Message-ID<df8d27cc-ce7c-46f2-841e-0f015878572e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473789
Keith Stein escrito 

On 02/10/2018 12:20, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: 
> Keith Stein escrito 
> 
> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through 
> which the wave travels, and in all cases the wave velocity 
> is relative to the medium. 
> 
> Relativists ignore the medium, which is why they can't 
> unambiguously synchronize two clocks. 
> 
> I think so. 
> 
> keith stein 
> 
> https://youtu.be/-_IlNbsILLE 

Thank you Mr.Fuller. Not a bad video, and certainly 
much more understandable than you usual profusion of 
numbers. 
However i failed to see the relevance of the video 
to the importance of the *medium*. 

keith stein 

You need to STUDY more to minimize your Ignorance 

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#473796

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 14:12 +0100
Message-ID<a9KsD.614401$zc1.423837@fx10.am4>
In reply to#473792
On 02/10/2018 14:02, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> Keith Stein escrito
> 
> On 02/10/2018 12:20, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>> Keith Stein escrito
>>
>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through
>> which the wave travels, and in all cases the wave velocity
>> is relative to the medium.
>>
>> Relativists ignore the medium, which is why they can't
>> unambiguously synchronize two clocks.
>>
>> I think so.
>>
>> keith stein
>>
>> https://youtu.be/-_IlNbsILLE
> 
> Thank you Mr.Fuller. Not a bad video, and certainly
> much more understandable than you usual profusion of
> numbers.
> However i failed to see the relevance of the video
> to the importance of the *medium*.
> 
> keith stein
> 
> You need to STUDY more to minimize your Ignorance

True enough. Thanks for the advice eh!

keith stein

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#473790

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-10-02 12:39 +0000
Message-ID<povou6$go8$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#473779
Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> writes:

>The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which
>the wave travels, and in all cases the wave velocity is
>relative to the medium.

With the obvious exception of light, of course.

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#473795

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 14:08 +0100
Message-ID<s5KsD.264778$Os.149868@fx35.am4>
In reply to#473790
On 02/10/2018 13:39, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which
>> the wave travels, and in all cases the wave velocity is
>> relative to the medium.
> 
> With the obvious exception of light, of course.
> 

No Mr.Moroney, light is NOT an exception, and as soon
as you become aware of the light medium (i.e.the matter
through which the light travels) you will find that it
is easy to synchronize two clocks unambiguously eh!

keith stein

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#474353

FromTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2018-10-07 08:40 -0500
Message-ID<h5WdnR2zyPxbkSfGnZ2dnUU7_81j4p2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#473795
On 10/2/18 8:08 AM, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 02/10/2018 13:39, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> writes:
>>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which
>>> the wave travels, and in all cases the wave velocity is
>>> relative to the medium.
>>
>> With the obvious exception of light, of course.
> 
> No Mr.Moroney, light is NOT an exception, 

Sure it is, because LIGHT IS NOT A WAVE.

Tom Roberts

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#474359

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-10-07 07:22 -0700
Message-ID<0407e5d7-38bc-450c-813d-98e927e4543a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#474353
On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 9:40:30 AM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
> On 10/2/18 8:08 AM, Keith Stein wrote:
> > On 02/10/2018 13:39, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> writes:
> >>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which
> >>> the wave travels, and in all cases the wave velocity is
> >>> relative to the medium.
> >>
> >> With the obvious exception of light, of course.
> > 
> > No Mr.Moroney, light is NOT an exception, 
> 
> Sure it is, because LIGHT IS NOT A WAVE.

That’s an erroneous assertion. Light is a wave-packet and it is being transmitted by a continuous medium called the E-Matrix.

> 
> Tom Roberts

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#474362

FromPaul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt>
Date2018-10-07 14:42 +0000
Message-ID<ppd60n$lh3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#474359
kenseto wrote:

> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 9:40:30 AM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
>> On 10/2/18 8:08 AM, Keith Stein wrote:
>> > On 02/10/2018 13:39, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> >> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> writes:
>> >>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which the wave
>> >>> travels, and in all cases the wave velocity is relative to the
>> >>> medium.
>> >>
>> >> With the obvious exception of light, of course.
>> > 
>> > No Mr.Moroney, light is NOT an exception,
>> 
>> Sure it is, because LIGHT IS NOT A WAVE.
> 
> That’s an erroneous assertion. Light is a wave-packet and it is being
> transmitted by a continuous medium called the E-Matrix.

ANything in the world the E-Matrix cannot perform satisfactory??

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#474419

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-10-07 17:41 -0700
Message-ID<1126a531-5d18-4875-a5ac-acf3f5447d63@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#474362
On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 10:42:34 AM UTC-4, Paul Gish wrote:
> kenseto wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 9:40:30 AM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
> >> On 10/2/18 8:08 AM, Keith Stein wrote:
> >> > On 02/10/2018 13:39, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> >> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> writes:
> >> >>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which the wave
> >> >>> travels, and in all cases the wave velocity is relative to the
> >> >>> medium.
> >> >>
> >> >> With the obvious exception of light, of course.
> >> > 
> >> > No Mr.Moroney, light is NOT an exception,
> >> 
> >> Sure it is, because LIGHT IS NOT A WAVE.
> > 
> > That’s an erroneous assertion. Light is a wave-packet and it is being
> > transmitted by a continuous medium called the E-Matrix.
> 
> ANything in the world the E-Matrix cannot perform satisfactory??

Nope, that’s why it is a medium for the final theory.

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#473800

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 13:19 +0000
Message-ID<povr99$i9m$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473779
Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:
> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which
> the wave travels, 

The medium for SOME waves is...

> and in all cases the wave velocity is
> relative to the medium.
> 
> Relativists ignore the medium, which is why they can't
> unambiguously synchronize two clocks.
> 
> I think so.
> 
> keith stein
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473803

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-10-02 06:56 -0700
Message-ID<3212ae8c-969b-4611-aba8-00060c8d3d4e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473800
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 9:19:40 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which
> > the wave travels, 
> 
> The medium for SOME waves is...

The medium for sound is the AIR and the medium for light is the “E-Matrix”.
> 
> > and in all cases the wave velocity is
> > relative to the medium.
> > 
> > Relativists ignore the medium, which is why they can't
> > unambiguously synchronize two clocks.
> > 
> > I think so.
> > 
> > keith stein
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473805

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 14:00 +0000
Message-ID<povtl0$mdu$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473803
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 9:19:40 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which
>>> the wave travels, 
>> 
>> The medium for SOME waves is...
> 
> The medium for sound is the AIR and the medium for light is the “E-Matrix”.

The latter cannot be matter. 

>> 
>>> and in all cases the wave velocity is
>>> relative to the medium.
>>> 
>>> Relativists ignore the medium, which is why they can't
>>> unambiguously synchronize two clocks.
>>> 
>>> I think so.
>>> 
>>> keith stein
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473806

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 07:12 -0700
Message-ID<a7456a10-db0b-4f15-a5c5-8a814ade1dac@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473805
Odd Bodkin escrito 

kenseto <set...@att.net> wrote: 
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 9:19:40 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote: 
>> Keith Stein <keiths...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which 
>>> the wave travels, 
>> 
>> The medium for SOME waves is... 
> 
> The medium for sound is the AIR and the medium for light is the “E-Matrix”. 

The latter cannot be matter. 

You have chosen.... poorly 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ljusv5jFVIiNWHzOEejwQJyrToKbJkoq68XLLuOnEkk

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#473808

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 07:14 -0700
Message-ID<d024bd1f-5571-4db2-923c-35c96ddf0df0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473806
Odd Bodkin escrito 

kenseto <set...@att.net> wrote: 
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 9:19:40 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote: 
>> Keith Stein <keiths...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which 
>>> the wave travels, 
>> 
>> The medium for SOME waves is... 
> 
> The medium for sound is the AIR and the medium for light is the “E-Matrix”. 

The latter cannot be matter. 

You have chosen.... poorly 

https://youtu.be/VA7J0KkanzM

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ljusv5jFVIiNWHzOEejwQJyrToKbJkoq68XLLuOnEkk

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#473807

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-10-02 07:12 -0700
Message-ID<f21a1e25-9ca0-4112-9560-3e7ec0398075@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473805
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 10:00:04 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 9:19:40 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which
> >>> the wave travels, 
> >> 
> >> The medium for SOME waves is...
> > 
> > The medium for sound is the AIR and the medium for light is the “E-Matrix”.
> 
> The latter cannot be matter. 

Yes it can.

> 
> >> 
> >>> and in all cases the wave velocity is
> >>> relative to the medium.
> >>> 
> >>> Relativists ignore the medium, which is why they can't
> >>> unambiguously synchronize two clocks.
> >>> 
> >>> I think so.
> >>> 
> >>> keith stein
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473809

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 14:15 +0000
Message-ID<povuie$o4b$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473807
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 10:00:04 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 9:19:40 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which
>>>>> the wave travels, 
>>>> 
>>>> The medium for SOME waves is...
>>> 
>>> The medium for sound is the AIR and the medium for light is the “E-Matrix”.
>> 
>> The latter cannot be matter. 
> 
> Yes it can.

Experiment says no. 

> 
>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> and in all cases the wave velocity is
>>>>> relative to the medium.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Relativists ignore the medium, which is why they can't
>>>>> unambiguously synchronize two clocks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> keith stein
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473819

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-10-02 08:49 -0700
Message-ID<75429ea8-2908-4027-83cc-23ba9eb83497@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473809
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:15:45 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:

> Experiment says no. 

I hear only a poor fanatic idiot saying "no".

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#473847

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-10-02 13:31 -0700
Message-ID<f9809d3a-643f-4274-a29a-94756d944ad7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473809
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 10:15:45 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 10:00:04 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 9:19:40 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> The 'medium' for any wave is just the matter through which
> >>>>> the wave travels, 
> >>>> 
> >>>> The medium for SOME waves is...
> >>> 
> >>> The medium for sound is the AIR and the medium for light is the “E-Matrix”.
> >> 
> >> The latter cannot be matter. 
> > 
> > Yes it can.
> 
> Experiment says no. 

On the contrary.....experiment says yes.

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