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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

Started byRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
First post2018-08-31 08:07 -0700
Last post2018-12-07 09:49 +0000
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  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 08:07 -0700
    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:46 +0000
      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 10:00 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 17:22 +0000
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 11:09 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:40 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 12:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 21:22 +0000
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 21:52 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 14:01 +0000
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-01 09:58 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 11:23 -0400
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 09:13 -0700
                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 14:44 -0400
                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 11:58 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 15:57 -0400
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 13:14 -0700
                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 17:25 -0400
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 14:45 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 19:51 -0400
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 22:33 -0700
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-31 20:37 +0200
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 12:15 -0700
      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 12:52 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 21:50 +0000
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 16:27 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-01 00:51 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 01:21 +0000
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 20:48 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 01:18 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 20:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 03:51 -0700
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:41 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Fattore Nzavecchia <avcir@valecw.ba> - 2018-09-01 12:46 +0000
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 09:31 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 06:33 -0700
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 09:37 -0700
                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 11:32 -0700
                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:54 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:44 -0700
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 22:02 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 16:01 -0700
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 22:08 -0700
                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 04:30 -0700
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 05:24 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 05:30 -0700
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 06:16 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Jeanclaude Erald <urdu@iufienv.vu> - 2018-09-02 12:36 +0000
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:47 -0700
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:29 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 18:57 +0000
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:37 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 20:46 +0000
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 19:31 -0700
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 21:33 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 03:37 -0700
                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 05:39 -0700
                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 10:40 -0700
                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 18:21 -0700
                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 19:22 -0700
                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 19:41 -0700
                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 20:12 -0700
                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 20:26 -0700
                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-04 03:29 -0700
                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 07:15 -0700
                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-04 14:50 +0000
                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-04 23:38 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:00 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 00:33 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:34 +0000
                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 08:39 -0700
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 15:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:44 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 19:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:46 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-05 14:38 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:00 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-05 19:06 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 21:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:03 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:10 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:17 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:36 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:57 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 23:12 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 22:11 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:54 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 02:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 20:57 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 05:07 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:00 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 07:35 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 16:39 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 10:34 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-06 15:13 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 13:47 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:59 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 22:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 23:09 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:22 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 15:45 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 15:58 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 16:01 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 00:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:57 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 17:34 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 13:11 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 00:45 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:54 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 01:04 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 16:32 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:06 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:17 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:29 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:43 +0000
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 16:06 +0000
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:50 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 17:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:21 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 19:48 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:57 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 22:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:49 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:24 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:00 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:47 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:57 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 16:04 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:47 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:22 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-07 05:30 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 11:59 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 13:16 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 22:25 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 15:58 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 00:39 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:58 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 12:20 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 06:55 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 16:13 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:38 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 16:51 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 11:55 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 12:19 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 14:47 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 15:25 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 16:06 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:41 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 20:51 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 06:49 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 07:41 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 09:51 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 18:53 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 10:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 05:21 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 10:36 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-08 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 12:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 05:22 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 10:40 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 05:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 16:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 13:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 10:28 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 13:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 04:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> - 2018-09-09 11:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 05:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 12:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 17:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 19:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 19:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 20:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 21:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 04:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-10 05:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 06:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 08:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 08:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:41 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 03:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 12:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 06:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:28 -0700
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#473228

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-26 21:04 -0700
Message-ID<aca51a68-03d7-4426-817b-01e1f45e7ec4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473146
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 8:08:44 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >> You're not interested in it enough to look at it unless some one spoonfeeds
> >> it to you here. You project your own laziness onto others? Really?
> 
> >If you think having a conversation consists of providing links to 
> >irrelevant discussions of the Special Theory of Relativity, then there 
> >are a lot of nice scientists in sci.physics.relativity who would probably 
> >be thrilled to discuss the length contraction with you.  Personally, I am 
> >just not interested in it.
> 
> Then why did you ask for Einstein's explanation of photons?
>
I did not ask for Einstein's explanation of photons.  I just said he had not given a good explanation of photons, even though he was the one who invented them. 
 
> >  I do not believe in the length contraction.  
> >The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.
> 
> Which is why it is no longer used, it does not model nature well.

I think that the Galilean transformation equations model nature as well as nature can be modeled.  

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#473153

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-26 15:30 +0000
Message-ID<pog8nh$1dev$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473138
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:24:54 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
>>>> 
>>>> Of course they have. Would you like a nice book reference?
>>> 
>>> If it is something you are too lazy to post, I am not much interested in it.  
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> You’re not interested in it enough to look at it unless some one spoonfeeds
>> it to you here. You project your own laziness onto others? Really? 
>> 
> If you think having a conversation consists of providing links to
> irrelevant discussions of the Special Theory of Relativity, 

As you recall, this was about photons and whether they’d ever been
described. The answer is that if course they’ve been very well described.
There’s an excellent little book aimed for ordinary people like you and me
called “QED” written by Richard Feynman written in 1985, thirty years after
Einstein died. It is available for purchase for $5, which is just a little
more than what you charge for your books. Perhaps the higher price to be
expected since it was written by someone who actually knew what he was
talking about. You will perhaps be surprised to find that there are no
irrelevant discussions of special relativity in that book about photons.
Even though photons were discovered by Einstein, you see, he did more
things than relativity. 

> then there are a lot of nice scientists in sci.physics.relativity who
> would probably be thrilled to discuss the length contraction with you. 
> Personally, I am just not interested in it.  I do not believe in the
> length contraction.  The Galilean transformation equations do not have a
> length contraction.  
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473231

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-26 21:21 -0700
Message-ID<ff017e7f-bb56-4104-aa24-feade909d7bb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473153
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:24:54 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Of course they have. Would you like a nice book reference?
> >>> 
> >>> If it is something you are too lazy to post, I am not much interested in it.  
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> You’re not interested in it enough to look at it unless some one spoonfeeds
> >> it to you here. You project your own laziness onto others? Really? 
> >> 
> > If you think having a conversation consists of providing links to
> > irrelevant discussions of the Special Theory of Relativity, 
> 
> As you recall, this was about photons and whether they’d ever been
> described. The answer is that if course they’ve been very well described.
> There’s an excellent little book aimed for ordinary people like you and me
> called “QED” written by Richard Feynman written in 1985, thirty years after
> Einstein died. It is available for purchase for $5, which is just a little
> more than what you charge for your books. Perhaps the higher price to be
> expected since it was written by someone who actually knew what he was
> talking about. You will perhaps be surprised to find that there are no
> irrelevant discussions of special relativity in that book about photons.
> Even though photons were discovered by Einstein, you see, he did more
> things than relativity. 

Einstein did not discover photons.  He invented them.  He also did not explain them.  So now you say someone has written a book explaining photons in 1985.  That is nice.  Maybe I will read it sometime.  

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#473290

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-27 18:51 +0000
Message-ID<poj8qt$gj9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473231
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:24:54 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of course they have. Would you like a nice book reference?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If it is something you are too lazy to post, I am not much interested in it.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You’re not interested in it enough to look at it unless some one spoonfeeds
>>>> it to you here. You project your own laziness onto others? Really? 
>>>> 
>>> If you think having a conversation consists of providing links to
>>> irrelevant discussions of the Special Theory of Relativity, 
>> 
>> As you recall, this was about photons and whether they’d ever been
>> described. The answer is that if course they’ve been very well described.
>> There’s an excellent little book aimed for ordinary people like you and me
>> called “QED” written by Richard Feynman written in 1985, thirty years after
>> Einstein died. It is available for purchase for $5, which is just a little
>> more than what you charge for your books. Perhaps the higher price to be
>> expected since it was written by someone who actually knew what he was
>> talking about. You will perhaps be surprised to find that there are no
>> irrelevant discussions of special relativity in that book about photons.
>> Even though photons were discovered by Einstein, you see, he did more
>> things than relativity. 
> 
> Einstein did not discover photons.  He invented them.  

No, he did not. He inferred their existence, the same way Pauli inferred
that neutrinos exist, and the way that Le Verrier inferred the existence of
Neptune. These men invented names for the things but they’ve been around
long before humans even were around. 

> He also did not explain them.  

Nor was he expected to. The person who makes the initial realization is not
the person to go to for a complete compendium on the full idea. Science is
a group activity. Once someone makes a key discovery, others join the
investigation and a full description is available only later. This was true
for photons and neutrinos and Neptune. 

> So now you say someone has written a book explaining photons in 1985. 
> That is nice.  Maybe I will read it sometime.  

Maybe, but I doubt it. Even though it’s a short book written in plain
language. You’re entirely too lazy, aren’t you?

> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473329

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-27 21:23 -0700
Message-ID<e8956f50-0ab4-4d54-98d5-5050985d94a3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473290
On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 11:51:13 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:24:54 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Of course they have. Would you like a nice book reference?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> If it is something you are too lazy to post, I am not much interested in it.  
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> You’re not interested in it enough to look at it unless some one spoonfeeds
> >>>> it to you here. You project your own laziness onto others? Really? 
> >>>> 
> >>> If you think having a conversation consists of providing links to
> >>> irrelevant discussions of the Special Theory of Relativity, 
> >> 
> >> As you recall, this was about photons and whether they’d ever been
> >> described. The answer is that if course they’ve been very well described.
> >> There’s an excellent little book aimed for ordinary people like you and me
> >> called “QED” written by Richard Feynman written in 1985, thirty years after
> >> Einstein died. It is available for purchase for $5, which is just a little
> >> more than what you charge for your books. Perhaps the higher price to be
> >> expected since it was written by someone who actually knew what he was
> >> talking about. You will perhaps be surprised to find that there are no
> >> irrelevant discussions of special relativity in that book about photons.
> >> Even though photons were discovered by Einstein, you see, he did more
> >> things than relativity. 
> > 
> > Einstein did not discover photons.  He invented them.  
> 
> No, he did not. He inferred their existence, the same way Pauli inferred
> that neutrinos exist, and the way that Le Verrier inferred the existence of
> Neptune. These men invented names for the things but they’ve been around
> long before humans even were around. 
> 
> > He also did not explain them.  
> 
> Nor was he expected to. The person who makes the initial realization is not
> the person to go to for a complete compendium on the full idea. Science is
> a group activity. Once someone makes a key discovery, others join the
> investigation and a full description is available only later. This was true
> for photons and neutrinos and Neptune. 
> 
> > So now you say someone has written a book explaining photons in 1985. 
> > That is nice.  Maybe I will read it sometime.  
> 
> Maybe, but I doubt it. Even though it’s a short book written in plain
> language. You’re entirely too lazy, aren’t you?
> 
I am on social security and sit around trying to communicate with scientists.  So are you calling me lazy because I collect social security or because I try to communicate with scientists?

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#473383

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-28 17:54 +0000
Message-ID<polptj$o3d$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473329
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 11:51:13 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:24:54 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Of course they have. Would you like a nice book reference?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If it is something you are too lazy to post, I am not much interested in it.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You’re not interested in it enough to look at it unless some one spoonfeeds
>>>>>> it to you here. You project your own laziness onto others? Really? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> If you think having a conversation consists of providing links to
>>>>> irrelevant discussions of the Special Theory of Relativity, 
>>>> 
>>>> As you recall, this was about photons and whether they’d ever been
>>>> described. The answer is that if course they’ve been very well described.
>>>> There’s an excellent little book aimed for ordinary people like you and me
>>>> called “QED” written by Richard Feynman written in 1985, thirty years after
>>>> Einstein died. It is available for purchase for $5, which is just a little
>>>> more than what you charge for your books. Perhaps the higher price to be
>>>> expected since it was written by someone who actually knew what he was
>>>> talking about. You will perhaps be surprised to find that there are no
>>>> irrelevant discussions of special relativity in that book about photons.
>>>> Even though photons were discovered by Einstein, you see, he did more
>>>> things than relativity. 
>>> 
>>> Einstein did not discover photons.  He invented them.  
>> 
>> No, he did not. He inferred their existence, the same way Pauli inferred
>> that neutrinos exist, and the way that Le Verrier inferred the existence of
>> Neptune. These men invented names for the things but they’ve been around
>> long before humans even were around. 
>> 
>>> He also did not explain them.  
>> 
>> Nor was he expected to. The person who makes the initial realization is not
>> the person to go to for a complete compendium on the full idea. Science is
>> a group activity. Once someone makes a key discovery, others join the
>> investigation and a full description is available only later. This was true
>> for photons and neutrinos and Neptune. 
>> 
>>> So now you say someone has written a book explaining photons in 1985. 
>>> That is nice.  Maybe I will read it sometime.  
>> 
>> Maybe, but I doubt it. Even though it’s a short book written in plain
>> language. You’re entirely too lazy, aren’t you?
>> 
> I am on social security and sit around trying to communicate with
> scientists.  So are you calling me lazy because I collect social security
> or because I try to communicate with scientists?
> 

I’m calling you lazy because you aren’t interested in reading anything in
your own. You’d rather people present it to you here. Sitting around and
declining to do something other than this newsgroup is laziness.  

See? I post on this newsgroup, AND I have an occupation that gives me a
living wage, AND I read a lot on my own. I understand you believe that is
an unreasonable amount of effort to spend in a day. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473398

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-28 12:54 -0700
Message-ID<dc5d02c4-46aa-4100-acc8-c449a08e10d1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473383
On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 10:55:03 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 11:51:13 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:24:54 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Of course they have. Would you like a nice book reference?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> If it is something you are too lazy to post, I am not much interested in it.  
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> You’re not interested in it enough to look at it unless some one spoonfeeds
> >>>>>> it to you here. You project your own laziness onto others? Really? 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> If you think having a conversation consists of providing links to
> >>>>> irrelevant discussions of the Special Theory of Relativity, 
> >>>> 
> >>>> As you recall, this was about photons and whether they’d ever been
> >>>> described. The answer is that if course they’ve been very well described.
> >>>> There’s an excellent little book aimed for ordinary people like you and me
> >>>> called “QED” written by Richard Feynman written in 1985, thirty years after
> >>>> Einstein died. It is available for purchase for $5, which is just a little
> >>>> more than what you charge for your books. Perhaps the higher price to be
> >>>> expected since it was written by someone who actually knew what he was
> >>>> talking about. You will perhaps be surprised to find that there are no
> >>>> irrelevant discussions of special relativity in that book about photons.
> >>>> Even though photons were discovered by Einstein, you see, he did more
> >>>> things than relativity. 
> >>> 
> >>> Einstein did not discover photons.  He invented them.  
> >> 
> >> No, he did not. He inferred their existence, the same way Pauli inferred
> >> that neutrinos exist, and the way that Le Verrier inferred the existence of
> >> Neptune. These men invented names for the things but they’ve been around
> >> long before humans even were around. 
> >> 
> >>> He also did not explain them.  
> >> 
> >> Nor was he expected to. The person who makes the initial realization is not
> >> the person to go to for a complete compendium on the full idea. Science is
> >> a group activity. Once someone makes a key discovery, others join the
> >> investigation and a full description is available only later. This was true
> >> for photons and neutrinos and Neptune. 
> >> 
> >>> So now you say someone has written a book explaining photons in 1985. 
> >>> That is nice.  Maybe I will read it sometime.  
> >> 
> >> Maybe, but I doubt it. Even though it’s a short book written in plain
> >> language. You’re entirely too lazy, aren’t you?
> >> 
> > I am on social security and sit around trying to communicate with
> > scientists.  So are you calling me lazy because I collect social security
> > or because I try to communicate with scientists?
> > 
> 
> I’m calling you lazy because you aren’t interested in reading anything in
> your own. You’d rather people present it to you here. Sitting around and
> declining to do something other than this newsgroup is laziness.  
> 
> See? I post on this newsgroup, AND I have an occupation that gives me a
> living wage, AND I read a lot on my own. I understand you believe that is
> an unreasonable amount of effort to spend in a day. 
> 
Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that you know more than I do.  

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#473429

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-28 21:57 +0000
Message-ID<pom84p$1ffb$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473398
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 10:55:03 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 11:51:13 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:24:54 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Of course they have. Would you like a nice book reference?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If it is something you are too lazy to post, I am not much interested in it.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You’re not interested in it enough to look at it unless some one spoonfeeds
>>>>>>>> it to you here. You project your own laziness onto others? Really? 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you think having a conversation consists of providing links to
>>>>>>> irrelevant discussions of the Special Theory of Relativity, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As you recall, this was about photons and whether they’d ever been
>>>>>> described. The answer is that if course they’ve been very well described.
>>>>>> There’s an excellent little book aimed for ordinary people like you and me
>>>>>> called “QED” written by Richard Feynman written in 1985, thirty years after
>>>>>> Einstein died. It is available for purchase for $5, which is just a little
>>>>>> more than what you charge for your books. Perhaps the higher price to be
>>>>>> expected since it was written by someone who actually knew what he was
>>>>>> talking about. You will perhaps be surprised to find that there are no
>>>>>> irrelevant discussions of special relativity in that book about photons.
>>>>>> Even though photons were discovered by Einstein, you see, he did more
>>>>>> things than relativity. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Einstein did not discover photons.  He invented them.  
>>>> 
>>>> No, he did not. He inferred their existence, the same way Pauli inferred
>>>> that neutrinos exist, and the way that Le Verrier inferred the existence of
>>>> Neptune. These men invented names for the things but they’ve been around
>>>> long before humans even were around. 
>>>> 
>>>>> He also did not explain them.  
>>>> 
>>>> Nor was he expected to. The person who makes the initial realization is not
>>>> the person to go to for a complete compendium on the full idea. Science is
>>>> a group activity. Once someone makes a key discovery, others join the
>>>> investigation and a full description is available only later. This was true
>>>> for photons and neutrinos and Neptune. 
>>>> 
>>>>> So now you say someone has written a book explaining photons in 1985. 
>>>>> That is nice.  Maybe I will read it sometime.  
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe, but I doubt it. Even though it’s a short book written in plain
>>>> language. You’re entirely too lazy, aren’t you?
>>>> 
>>> I am on social security and sit around trying to communicate with
>>> scientists.  So are you calling me lazy because I collect social security
>>> or because I try to communicate with scientists?
>>> 
>> 
>> I’m calling you lazy because you aren’t interested in reading anything in
>> your own. You’d rather people present it to you here. Sitting around and
>> declining to do something other than this newsgroup is laziness.  
>> 
>> See? I post on this newsgroup, AND I have an occupation that gives me a
>> living wage, AND I read a lot on my own. I understand you believe that is
>> an unreasonable amount of effort to spend in a day. 
>> 
> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
> you know more than I do.  
> 

Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
uninformed opinion. 

In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473440

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-28 18:05 -0700
Message-ID<c9e99d95-0b2b-411a-9eda-32ea922281a5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473429
On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> > Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
> > true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
> > you know more than I do.  
> > 
> 
> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
> uninformed opinion. 
> 
> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
> 
I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not really interested in the scientific mis-information you are directing me to pursue.  I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific theories when directed to do so.

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#473451

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-29 12:55 +0000
Message-ID<ponsnm$1qp8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473440
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
>>> you know more than I do.  
>>> 
>> 
>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
>> uninformed opinion. 
>> 
>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
>> 
> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are directing me to pursue.  

Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
to look through it.  

> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  

Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
how uninterested in physics you are. 

> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
> theories when directed to do so.
> 

I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
Have I got that right, Robert?



-- 
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#473494

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-29 14:37 -0700
Message-ID<bfaa55c5-27af-4e33-b359-e61d27c94994@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473451
On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > 
> >>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
> >>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
> >>> you know more than I do.  
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
> >> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
> >> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
> >> uninformed opinion. 
> >> 
> >> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
> >> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
> >> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
> >> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
> >> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
> >> 
> > I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
> > really interested in the scientific mis-information you are directing me to pursue.  
> 
> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
> to look through it.  
> 
> > I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
> 
> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
> how uninterested in physics you are. 
> 
> > If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
> > that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
> > you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
> > discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
> > obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
> > theories when directed to do so.
> > 
> 
> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
> Have I got that right, Robert?
> 
Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to go there before I would walk that far.  Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  

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#473503

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-29 22:06 +0000
Message-ID<poot0r$1j3h$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473494
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
>>>>> you know more than I do.  
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
>>>> uninformed opinion. 
>>>> 
>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
>>>> 
>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are directing me to pursue.  
>> 
>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
>> to look through it.  
>> 
>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
>> 
>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
>> 
>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
>>> theories when directed to do so.
>>> 
>> 
>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
>> Have I got that right, Robert?
>> 
> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
> go there before I would walk that far.  

A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
have you spent on Usenet today?

> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  

I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 

> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
> 

Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
works really hard to convince you to do it. 


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#473525

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-29 22:47 -0700
Message-ID<4183f595-71e4-4213-9ac7-8bc9745b63f1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473503
On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
> >>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
> >>>>> you know more than I do.  
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
> >>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
> >>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
> >>>> uninformed opinion. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
> >>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
> >>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
> >>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
> >>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
> >>>> 
> >>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
> >>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are directing me to pursue.  
> >> 
> >> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
> >> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
> >> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
> >> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
> >> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
> >> to look through it.  
> >> 
> >>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
> >> 
> >> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
> >> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
> >> how uninterested in physics you are. 
> >> 
> >>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
> >>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
> >>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
> >>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
> >>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
> >>> theories when directed to do so.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
> >> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
> >> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
> >> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
> >> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
> >> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
> >> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
> >> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
> >> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
> >> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
> >> Have I got that right, Robert?
> >> 
> > Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
> > a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
> > go there before I would walk that far.  
> 
> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
> have you spent on Usenet today?
> 
> > Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
> 
> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
> 
> > You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
> > yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
> > reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
> > 
> 
> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
> works really hard to convince you to do it. 

I read what you write.  What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation equations are the correct equations?

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#473540

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-30 12:43 +0000
Message-ID<poqgdr$1s49$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473525
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are directing me to pursue.  
>>>> 
>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
>>>> to look through it.  
>>>> 
>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
>>>> 
>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
>>>> 
>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
>> 
>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
>> have you spent on Usenet today?
>> 
>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
>> 
>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
>> 
>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
> 
> I read what you write.  

Not enough to become informed. 

> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
> equations are the correct equations?

Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 



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#473650

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-30 21:16 -0700
Message-ID<d5fb21b9-f60a-4cc3-a1e0-f231953294b9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473540
On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
> >>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
> >>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
> >>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
> >>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
> >>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
> >>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
> >>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
> >>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
> >>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
> >>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are directing me to pursue.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
> >>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
> >>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
> >>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
> >>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
> >>>> to look through it.  
> >>>> 
> >>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
> >>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
> >>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
> >>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
> >>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
> >>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
> >>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
> >>>>> theories when directed to do so.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
> >>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
> >>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
> >>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
> >>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
> >>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
> >>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
> >>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
> >>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
> >>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
> >>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
> >>>> 
> >>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
> >>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
> >>> go there before I would walk that far.  
> >> 
> >> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
> >> have you spent on Usenet today?
> >> 
> >>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
> >> 
> >> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
> >> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
> >> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
> >> 
> >>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
> >>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
> >>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
> >> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
> > 
> > I read what you write.  
> 
> Not enough to become informed. 
> 
> > What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
> > equations are the correct equations?
> 
> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
> 
I already looked at the information.  

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#473670

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-01 14:55 +0000
Message-ID<potcgs$frl$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473650
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
>>>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
>>>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
>>>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
>>>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
>>>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
>>>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
>>>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
>>>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
>>>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
>>>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are directing me to pursue.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
>>>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
>>>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
>>>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
>>>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
>>>>>> to look through it.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
>>>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
>>>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
>>>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
>>>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
>>>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
>>>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
>>>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
>>>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
>>>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
>>>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
>>>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
>>>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
>>>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
>>>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
>>>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
>>>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
>>>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
>>>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
>>>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
>>>> 
>>>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
>>>> have you spent on Usenet today?
>>>> 
>>>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
>>>> 
>>>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
>>>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
>>>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
>>>> 
>>>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
>>>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
>>>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
>>>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
>>> 
>>> I read what you write.  
>> 
>> Not enough to become informed. 
>> 
>>> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
>>> equations are the correct equations?
>> 
>> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
>> 
> I already looked at the information.  
> 

You looked at the information about length contraction? Marvelous. And to
think you said there was no evidence of length contraction first, and then
you said you would not look at any information about length contraction.
What reference did you look at?

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#473705

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-01 13:30 -0700
Message-ID<3d3b059e-e693-404a-af2a-453d33ee6975@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473670
On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:55:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
> >>>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
> >>>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
> >>>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
> >>>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
> >>>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
> >>>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
> >>>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
> >>>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
> >>>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
> >>>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are directing me to pursue.  
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
> >>>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
> >>>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
> >>>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
> >>>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
> >>>>>> to look through it.  
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
> >>>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
> >>>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
> >>>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
> >>>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
> >>>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
> >>>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
> >>>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
> >>>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
> >>>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
> >>>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
> >>>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
> >>>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
> >>>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
> >>>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
> >>>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
> >>>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
> >>>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
> >>>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
> >>>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
> >>>> have you spent on Usenet today?
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
> >>>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
> >>>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
> >>>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
> >>>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
> >>>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
> >>> 
> >>> I read what you write.  
> >> 
> >> Not enough to become informed. 
> >> 
> >>> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
> >>> equations are the correct equations?
> >> 
> >> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
> >> 
> > I already looked at the information.  
> > 
> 
> You looked at the information about length contraction? Marvelous. And to
> think you said there was no evidence of length contraction first, and then
> you said you would not look at any information about length contraction.
> What reference did you look at?

The first book I read about Special Relativity was in a box of discarded books at a library.  Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories, Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.  None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.  

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#473720

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-01 21:41 +0000
Message-ID<pou4aj$1rut$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473705
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:55:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
>>>>>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
>>>>>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
>>>>>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
>>>>>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
>>>>>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
>>>>>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
>>>>>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
>>>>>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
>>>>>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
>>>>>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are
>>>>>>>>> directing me to pursue.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
>>>>>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
>>>>>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
>>>>>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
>>>>>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
>>>>>>>> to look through it.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
>>>>>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
>>>>>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
>>>>>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
>>>>>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
>>>>>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
>>>>>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
>>>>>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
>>>>>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
>>>>>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
>>>>>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
>>>>>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
>>>>>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
>>>>>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
>>>>>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
>>>>>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
>>>>>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
>>>>>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
>>>>>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
>>>>>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
>>>>>> have you spent on Usenet today?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
>>>>>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
>>>>>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
>>>>>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
>>>>>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
>>>>>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I read what you write.  
>>>> 
>>>> Not enough to become informed. 
>>>> 
>>>>> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
>>>>> equations are the correct equations?
>>>> 
>>>> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
>>>> 
>>> I already looked at the information.  
>>> 
>> 
>> You looked at the information about length contraction? Marvelous. And to
>> think you said there was no evidence of length contraction first, and then
>> you said you would not look at any information about length contraction.
>> What reference did you look at?
> 
> The first book I read about Special Relativity was in a box of discarded
> books at a library.  

Written by whom? Surely you remember the author if you remember the
contents. 

> Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories, 

That book contains no documented real measurements. 

> Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.  

Namely? Which books were about experimental measurement tests of
relativity? 

> None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.  
> 



-- 
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#473733

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-01 16:03 -0700
Message-ID<11282bea-fe63-44c7-8996-8a7221ac849f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473720
On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:41:43 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:55:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
> >>>>>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
> >>>>>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
> >>>>>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
> >>>>>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
> >>>>>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
> >>>>>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
> >>>>>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
> >>>>>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
> >>>>>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
> >>>>>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are
> >>>>>>>>> directing me to pursue.  
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
> >>>>>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
> >>>>>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
> >>>>>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
> >>>>>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
> >>>>>>>> to look through it.  
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
> >>>>>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
> >>>>>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
> >>>>>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
> >>>>>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
> >>>>>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
> >>>>>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
> >>>>>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
> >>>>>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
> >>>>>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
> >>>>>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
> >>>>>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
> >>>>>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
> >>>>>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
> >>>>>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
> >>>>>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
> >>>>>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
> >>>>>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
> >>>>>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
> >>>>>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
> >>>>>> have you spent on Usenet today?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
> >>>>>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
> >>>>>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
> >>>>>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
> >>>>>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
> >>>>>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I read what you write.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> Not enough to become informed. 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
> >>>>> equations are the correct equations?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
> >>>> 
> >>> I already looked at the information.  
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> You looked at the information about length contraction? Marvelous. And to
> >> think you said there was no evidence of length contraction first, and then
> >> you said you would not look at any information about length contraction.
> >> What reference did you look at?
> > 
> > The first book I read about Special Relativity was in a box of discarded
> > books at a library.  
> 
> Written by whom? Surely you remember the author if you remember the
> contents. 
> 
> > Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories, 
> 
> That book contains no documented real measurements. 
> 
> > Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.  
> 
> Namely? Which books were about experimental measurement tests of
> relativity? 
> 
> > None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.  

If you want to try to convince me that a length contraction exists, go ahead.  The names of books I read about relativity are not important.  If you want to say something, go ahead and say it.  

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#473761

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 03:46 +0000
Message-ID<poupnd$omc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473733
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:41:43 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:55:27 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:43:42 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:55:21 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, your idea is that if something is written in a book, then it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> true, and if I do not read the book, and you do, then that proves that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you know more than I do.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Robert, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has strong ideas on
>>>>>>>>>>>> a subject but is mostly unread in that same subject, then it is extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>> likely that he is incorrect in his idea, and that he is expressing an
>>>>>>>>>>>> uninformed opinion. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, since we are talking about historical facts, being uninformed
>>>>>>>>>>>> is truly a liability. And yes, in this case, since I have read descriptions
>>>>>>>>>>>> of photons and you haven’t, then yes, I know more than you do about whether
>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions of photons exist. This position has occurred, by the way,
>>>>>>>>>>>> because I don’t wallow in laziness the way you do. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I am certainly sorry about wallowing in laziness, but I am just not
>>>>>>>>>>> really interested in the scientific mis-information you are
>>>>>>>>>>> directing me to pursue.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Well, it’s interesting that you decide that it is misinformation before
>>>>>>>>>> even looking at it. As I recall, there have been periods where books were
>>>>>>>>>> burned by people who knew the books were evil without even reading them. As
>>>>>>>>>> you recall, there were visitors to Galileo’s house who were not interested
>>>>>>>>>> in the misinformation provided by his telescope and so they simply declined
>>>>>>>>>> to look through it.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I think my time is better spent in doing other things.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I know. Like collecting Social Security, putting gas in a truck you
>>>>>>>>>> aren’t legally able to drive, and telling people on sci.physics.relativity
>>>>>>>>>> how uninterested in physics you are. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If you were inclined to say what there is about these scientific writings
>>>>>>>>>>> that is supposed to be so beneficial, perhaps we could discuss that, but
>>>>>>>>>>> you seem to be saying that these scientific secrets must never be
>>>>>>>>>>> discussed and can only be available to those who show sufficient
>>>>>>>>>>> obedience to modern science to go to these sources of modern scientific
>>>>>>>>>>> theories when directed to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I’ve never really thought of a public library as a warehouse of secrets. I
>>>>>>>>>> mean, I show up at the door when they’ve posted it is open, and sure enough
>>>>>>>>>> I walk right in and no one asks me for any credentials. Then I walk right
>>>>>>>>>> over to the secret shelves and I put my hand right on the book of secrets
>>>>>>>>>> and I open it up and read all the secrets there, and not one person tries
>>>>>>>>>> to stop me. But I suppose that my deciding to go to the public library and
>>>>>>>>>> reading secrets must just be cowtowing to somebody else’s wishes every time
>>>>>>>>>> I do it, that’s what you’re telling me. And you just aren’t going to cowtow
>>>>>>>>>> to anybody by going to a public library and reading anything when you can
>>>>>>>>>> tell for yourself what is valid information and what is misinformation.
>>>>>>>>>> Have I got that right, Robert?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, there is one detail you left out.  The new public library is about
>>>>>>>>> a mile from where I live.  I would have to have a fairly good reason to
>>>>>>>>> go there before I would walk that far.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A twenty minute walk is just too much effort for you, Robert? How much time
>>>>>>>> have you spent on Usenet today?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think you are the lazy person.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I walk two and a half miles miles to the library. Usually I ride my bike.
>>>>>>>> And you? Oh, that’s right. A mile is too much time away from
>>>>>>>> sci.physics.relativity, sitting on your rear. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You multiply words in long harangues about my personal failings, but have
>>>>>>>>> yet to post anything significant about relativity.  I just don't see any
>>>>>>>>> reason to walk over to the public library based on anything you have said.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes that’s what I mean. You’re too lazy to read on your own unless someone
>>>>>>>> works really hard to convince you to do it. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I read what you write.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not enough to become informed. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What else would I need to convince me that the Galilean transformation
>>>>>>> equations are the correct equations?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don’t look for info just for the sake of validating a conclusion you want. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> I already looked at the information.  
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You looked at the information about length contraction? Marvelous. And to
>>>> think you said there was no evidence of length contraction first, and then
>>>> you said you would not look at any information about length contraction.
>>>> What reference did you look at?
>>> 
>>> The first book I read about Special Relativity was in a box of discarded
>>> books at a library.  
>> 
>> Written by whom? Surely you remember the author if you remember the
>> contents. 
>> 
>>> Then I read Einstein's book, Relativity, the Special and General Theories, 
>> 
>> That book contains no documented real measurements. 
>> 
>>> Then I read a bunch of other books on the subject.  
>> 
>> Namely? Which books were about experimental measurement tests of
>> relativity? 
>> 
>>> None of them convinced me that there was a length contraction.  
> 
> If you want to try to convince me that a length contraction exists, go
> ahead.  The names of books I read about relativity are not important.  If
> you want to say something, go ahead and say it.  
> 

I have no interest in making efforts to convince you of anything. That
would be something you elect to do on your own, as a grownup is customarily
expected to do to become informed enough to have an intelligent discussion
on a subject. 

I see that in fact you cannot recall any books you’ve read on the
experimental measurement of length contraction, which is what we were
talking about. This, despite you saying, “I already looked at the
information.”

I also noted that you’ve told me that you’d need a really solid reason to
walk 20 minutes to go to the library, but then just above, you told me that
you picked up a book from a discard box at the library, so I know it
doesn’t take that much to get you off your rear to walk 20 minutes. Maybe
you can ask someone to drive you in your truck for a three minute drive.
Maybe one of the global elitists will have enough money to put a couple of
gallons of gas in it. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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