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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

Started byRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
First post2018-08-31 08:07 -0700
Last post2018-12-07 09:49 +0000
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  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 08:07 -0700
    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:46 +0000
      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 10:00 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 17:22 +0000
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 11:09 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:40 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 12:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 21:22 +0000
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 21:52 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 14:01 +0000
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-01 09:58 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 11:23 -0400
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 09:13 -0700
                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 14:44 -0400
                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 11:58 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 15:57 -0400
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 13:14 -0700
                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 17:25 -0400
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 14:45 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-09-02 19:51 -0400
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 22:33 -0700
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-31 20:37 +0200
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-31 12:15 -0700
      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 12:52 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 21:50 +0000
          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 16:27 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-01 00:51 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 01:21 +0000
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 20:48 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 01:18 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 20:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 03:51 -0700
                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:41 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Fattore Nzavecchia <avcir@valecw.ba> - 2018-09-01 12:46 +0000
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 09:31 -0700
                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 06:33 -0700
                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 09:37 -0700
                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 11:32 -0700
                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:54 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:44 -0700
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 22:02 -0700
                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-01 16:01 -0700
                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 22:08 -0700
                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 04:30 -0700
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 05:24 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 05:30 -0700
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-02 06:16 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Jeanclaude Erald <urdu@iufienv.vu> - 2018-09-02 12:36 +0000
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:47 -0700
                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:29 -0700
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 18:57 +0000
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:37 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 20:46 +0000
                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-02 19:31 -0700
                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 21:33 -0700
                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 03:37 -0700
                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 05:39 -0700
                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 10:40 -0700
                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 18:21 -0700
                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 19:22 -0700
                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 19:41 -0700
                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-03 20:12 -0700
                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 20:26 -0700
                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-04 03:29 -0700
                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 07:15 -0700
                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-04 14:50 +0000
                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-04 23:38 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:00 -0700
                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 00:33 +0000
                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:34 +0000
                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 08:39 -0700
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 15:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:44 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 19:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:46 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-05 14:38 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:00 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-05 19:06 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 21:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:03 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:10 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:17 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:36 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:57 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 23:12 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 22:11 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:54 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 02:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 20:57 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 05:07 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:00 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 07:35 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 16:39 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 10:34 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-06 15:13 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 13:47 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:59 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 22:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-06 23:09 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:22 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 15:45 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-06 15:58 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 16:01 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 00:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:57 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-07 17:34 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 13:11 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 00:45 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:54 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 01:04 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-06 16:32 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:06 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:17 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:29 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:43 +0000
                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 16:06 +0000
                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:50 -0700
                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-05 17:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:21 -0700
                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 19:48 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:57 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 22:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 17:49 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:24 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:00 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:47 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 22:57 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 16:04 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:47 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:22 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-07 05:30 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 11:59 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 13:16 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 22:25 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 15:58 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 00:39 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:58 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 12:20 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 06:55 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 16:13 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:38 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-07 16:51 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 11:55 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 12:19 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 14:47 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 15:25 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 16:06 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:41 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-07 20:51 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 06:49 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 07:41 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 09:51 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-08 18:53 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 10:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 05:21 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 10:36 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-08 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 12:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 05:22 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 10:40 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 05:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-09-09 16:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 13:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 10:28 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 13:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-08 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 04:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> - 2018-09-09 11:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 05:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 12:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 17:49 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 19:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 19:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-09 20:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 21:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 04:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-10 05:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 06:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 08:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 08:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:41 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 03:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 12:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-10 06:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:28 -0700
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#473382

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-28 17:54 +0000
Message-ID<polpti$o3d$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473327
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 11:37:24 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:58:
>>>> 
>>> Sorry, but you have ether in this example.  Suppose that you have S'
>>> moving with a velocity of v relative to S.  Light is emitted at x at t=0.
>>> If the light is traveling at c in S, then it is traveling at c-v in S'
>>> if it is proceeding in the direction of motion of S', and it is traveling
>>> at c+v in S' if it is proceeding opposite to the direction of motion of S'.  
>>> 
>> 
>> No, there’s no ether. There are corpuscles behaving ballistically. They
>> behave exactly as you describe. 
>> 
> So what are you saying?  The ballistic model used a double star as an example.  

That’s only one of MANY examples in the ballistic model. Notice the
Michelson Morley experiment is also described by and is consistent with the
ballistic model. 

> Light would be traveling at c-v if the star was receding and at c+v if
> the star was approaching earth.  But the moving star would be S', not S.  

No, that’s not so.  The apostrophe or lack of one does not single out a
frame. It just isn’t so that if you see S and not S’, that means an Earth
frame. 

As I’ve been telling you, you don’t know enough about Galilean relativity
to discuss it intelligently. 

> Earth and the space between earth and the double star would be S.  So the
> light is not moving at c in S as I stipulated. 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#472864

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-24 02:31 +0000
Message-ID<po9i98$gi$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#472861
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:

>On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 4:09:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:

>> >Well, I would point out that if you have two clocks that you consider to
>> >be standard, and one of the clocks is put in motion relative to the
>> >other, then according to Einstein,

>> BZZZZZTT!!!! We're discussing the Galilean Transform. Einstein was
>> discussing what we now call the Lorentz Transform.  Remember, it was YOU
>> who kept demanding we stick to the Galilean Transform in this topic! So
>> why did YOU bring up Einstein and the Lorentz Transform????

>> In the Galilean Transform, if two clocks are moving at high speed relative
>> to each other, they still read the same, because, well, t'=t.

>I didn't bring up Einstein and the Lorentz transform.  Einstein did.

No, he did not! Einstein is dead, there is no way for him to respond here
and bring up the Lorentz transform. Also I would have noticed if he did.
YOU brought up the Lorentz transform when you mentioned that Einstein said
if the clock starts moving, it will run slow. I thought you asked that 
this topic be reserved for the Galilean Transform. In the Galilean 
Transform, if you moved a standard clock at high speed, its time will
still match a stationary clock. Let's examine this Galilean Transform
equation, t'=t. Do you see "v" or "v'" mentioned? No! That means that in
the Galilean Transform, the rate of clocks does not depend on their speed
or velocity, so there is no reason to mention that Einstein guy and his
clocks.  If you wish to discuss Einstein and the Lorentz Transform, start
another topic. This one is for the Galilean Transform, where t'=t, and it
does not have any of that silliness where moving clocks slow down and rods
get shorter.

So let's discuss how the Galilean Transform assures us that moving clocks
never run slow or anything, because it's always true that t'=t.

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#472868

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-23 21:56 -0700
Message-ID<982111ae-8672-46ca-815f-6a7c2bbc3205@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472864
On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 7:31:06 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 4:09:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >> >Well, I would point out that if you have two clocks that you consider to
> >> >be standard, and one of the clocks is put in motion relative to the
> >> >other, then according to Einstein,
> 
> >> BZZZZZTT!!!! We're discussing the Galilean Transform. Einstein was
> >> discussing what we now call the Lorentz Transform.  Remember, it was YOU
> >> who kept demanding we stick to the Galilean Transform in this topic! So
> >> why did YOU bring up Einstein and the Lorentz Transform????
> 
> >> In the Galilean Transform, if two clocks are moving at high speed relative
> >> to each other, they still read the same, because, well, t'=t.
> 
> >I didn't bring up Einstein and the Lorentz transform.  Einstein did.
> 
> No, he did not! Einstein is dead, there is no way for him to respond here
> and bring up the Lorentz transform. Also I would have noticed if he did.
> YOU brought up the Lorentz transform when you mentioned that Einstein said
> if the clock starts moving, it will run slow. I thought you asked that 
> this topic be reserved for the Galilean Transform. In the Galilean 
> Transform, if you moved a standard clock at high speed, its time will
> still match a stationary clock. Let's examine this Galilean Transform
> equation, t'=t. Do you see "v" or "v'" mentioned? No! That means that in
> the Galilean Transform, the rate of clocks does not depend on their speed
> or velocity, so there is no reason to mention that Einstein guy and his
> clocks.  If you wish to discuss Einstein and the Lorentz Transform, start
> another topic. This one is for the Galilean Transform, where t'=t, and it
> does not have any of that silliness where moving clocks slow down and rods
> get shorter.
> 
> So let's discuss how the Galilean Transform assures us that moving clocks
> never run slow or anything, because it's always true that t'=t.

The Galilean transformation equations do not control clocks.  They are used to show what clocks are doing.  

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#472879

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-24 15:50 +0000
Message-ID<pob14f$d2e$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#472868
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 7:31:06 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 4:09:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>>>> Well, I would point out that if you have two clocks that you consider to
>>>>> be standard, and one of the clocks is put in motion relative to the
>>>>> other, then according to Einstein,
>> 
>>>> BZZZZZTT!!!! We're discussing the Galilean Transform. Einstein was
>>>> discussing what we now call the Lorentz Transform.  Remember, it was YOU
>>>> who kept demanding we stick to the Galilean Transform in this topic! So
>>>> why did YOU bring up Einstein and the Lorentz Transform????
>> 
>>>> In the Galilean Transform, if two clocks are moving at high speed relative
>>>> to each other, they still read the same, because, well, t'=t.
>> 
>>> I didn't bring up Einstein and the Lorentz transform.  Einstein did.
>> 
>> No, he did not! Einstein is dead, there is no way for him to respond here
>> and bring up the Lorentz transform. Also I would have noticed if he did.
>> YOU brought up the Lorentz transform when you mentioned that Einstein said
>> if the clock starts moving, it will run slow. I thought you asked that 
>> this topic be reserved for the Galilean Transform. In the Galilean 
>> Transform, if you moved a standard clock at high speed, its time will
>> still match a stationary clock. Let's examine this Galilean Transform
>> equation, t'=t. Do you see "v" or "v'" mentioned? No! That means that in
>> the Galilean Transform, the rate of clocks does not depend on their speed
>> or velocity, so there is no reason to mention that Einstein guy and his
>> clocks.  If you wish to discuss Einstein and the Lorentz Transform, start
>> another topic. This one is for the Galilean Transform, where t'=t, and it
>> does not have any of that silliness where moving clocks slow down and rods
>> get shorter.
>> 
>> So let's discuss how the Galilean Transform assures us that moving clocks
>> never run slow or anything, because it's always true that t'=t.
> 
> The Galilean transformation equations do not control clocks.  They are
> used to show what clocks are doing.  
> 

This may come as a shock to you, but equations don’t show what instruments
do. Instruments do what they do on their own, which is why they are used
for measurements. Instruments and the measurements done with them are used
to test the validity of equations. This is sacrilege to you, I know. You
say equations are true because there’s an axiom of algebra that insists
that equations with equal signs are true. And you further say that if
someone claims that an equation is not true, then there must be an
algebraic mistake that can be identified. Instruments, you say, are only
for telling you how to make something or indicating when you should eat
lunch. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#472891

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-24 18:13 +0000
Message-ID<pob9gv$8uv$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#472879
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 7:31:06 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:

>>> So let's discuss how the Galilean Transform assures us that moving clocks
>>> never run slow or anything, because it's always true that t'=t.
>> 
>> The Galilean transformation equations do not control clocks.  They are
>> used to show what clocks are doing.  

>This may come as a shock to you, but equations don’t show what instruments
>do. Instruments do what they do on their own, which is why they are used
>for measurements. Instruments and the measurements done with them are used
>to test the validity of equations. This is sacrilege to you, I know. You
>say equations are true because there’s an axiom of algebra that insists
>that equations with equal signs are true. And you further say that if
>someone claims that an equation is not true, then there must be an
>algebraic mistake that can be identified. Instruments, you say, are only
>for telling you how to make something or indicating when you should eat
>lunch. 

That's right, Robert. The Galilean transform is a physics MODEL. It makes
predictions about what happens under certain circumstances. The Lorentz
transform is another physics MODEL. It makes (different) predictions about 
what happens under certain circumstances.  They do not control anything.
They predict things. For example, the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.
If you accept that prediction as true and apply that prediction to various
situations, soon you will realize that every single ideal clock 
These models don't control anything, they just make predictions.
Clocks and rulers don't control anything, they just make measurements.

Part of science is to take the models and make measurements, to see which
models are the closest to what nature actually does. For example, they
make measurements and compare the measurements to what the Galilean and
Lorentz transforms predict. For very low speeds, such as everything you
will encounter during your life except for light itself, science can 
barely measure any difference or can't measure any difference. On the 
other hand, for particles moving near the speed of light, there is a large
difference, and in that case the Lorentz transform gives by far a better
prediction. But none of this should matter to you, there is no situation
that a welder will encounter where the Lorentz and Galilean transforms 
will predict different things.

So, when the Galilean transform states t'=t, that is a PREDICTION. If
the universe works using the Galilean transform, that statement will be
true, and the two clocks will have the same readings. If it holds 
everywhere in the universe, it will mean that all standard clocks will
display the same time, so the only clocks that can exist are standard
clocks displaying the same time and broken clocks.

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#472901

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-09-24 11:49 -0700
Message-ID<dccb2933-c73e-4b44-9f3e-1caf23873c6b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472891
On Monday, 24 September 2018 20:13:54 UTC+2, Michael Moroney  wrote:
> That's right, Robert. The Galilean transform is a physics MODEL. It makes
> predictions about what happens under certain circumstances. The Lorentz
> transform is another physics MODEL. It makes (different) predictions about 
> what happens under certain circumstances.

In the dreams of a fanatic, incompetent halfbrain.

> So, when the Galilean transform states t'=t, that is a PREDICTION.

No, poor idiot. 


 If
> the universe works using the Galilean transform, that statement will be
> true, and the two clocks will have the same readings.

Universe has nothing to do with it. We are making
clocks as we want to. And, hey, take a look at GPS!
They indicate t'=t, with the precision of an acceptable
error.

> If it holds 
> everywhere in the universe, it will mean that all standard clocks will
> display the same time, so the only clocks that can exist are standard
> clocks displaying the same time and broken clocks.

And the broken clocks indicating, for instance,
this moronic time dilation predicted by an insane
guru.

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#472905

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-24 12:21 -0700
Message-ID<963ddc0b-157b-4a10-abd1-09608f20872f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472891
On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 11:13:54 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 7:31:06 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> >>> So let's discuss how the Galilean Transform assures us that moving clocks
> >>> never run slow or anything, because it's always true that t'=t.
> >> 
> >> The Galilean transformation equations do not control clocks.  They are
> >> used to show what clocks are doing.  
> 
> >This may come as a shock to you, but equations don’t show what instruments
> >do. Instruments do what they do on their own, which is why they are used
> >for measurements. Instruments and the measurements done with them are used
> >to test the validity of equations. This is sacrilege to you, I know. You
> >say equations are true because there’s an axiom of algebra that insists
> >that equations with equal signs are true. And you further say that if
> >someone claims that an equation is not true, then there must be an
> >algebraic mistake that can be identified. Instruments, you say, are only
> >for telling you how to make something or indicating when you should eat
> >lunch. 
> 
> That's right, Robert. The Galilean transform is a physics MODEL. It makes
> predictions about what happens under certain circumstances. The Lorentz
> transform is another physics MODEL. It makes (different) predictions about 
> what happens under certain circumstances.  They do not control anything.
> They predict things. For example, the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.
> If you accept that prediction as true and apply that prediction to various
> situations, soon you will realize that every single ideal clock 
> These models don't control anything, they just make predictions.
> Clocks and rulers don't control anything, they just make measurements.
> 
> Part of science is to take the models and make measurements, to see which
> models are the closest to what nature actually does. For example, they
> make measurements and compare the measurements to what the Galilean and
> Lorentz transforms predict. For very low speeds, such as everything you
> will encounter during your life except for light itself, science can 
> barely measure any difference or can't measure any difference. On the 
> other hand, for particles moving near the speed of light, there is a large
> difference, and in that case the Lorentz transform gives by far a better
> prediction. But none of this should matter to you, there is no situation
> that a welder will encounter where the Lorentz and Galilean transforms 
> will predict different things.
> 
> So, when the Galilean transform states t'=t, that is a PREDICTION. If
> the universe works using the Galilean transform, that statement will be
> true, and the two clocks will have the same readings. If it holds 
> everywhere in the universe, it will mean that all standard clocks will
> display the same time, so the only clocks that can exist are standard
> clocks displaying the same time and broken clocks.

Well, I will try to explain this in terms that you use yourself so that you may be able to comprehend what is being said.  Suppose that we take two STANDARD clocks and put them side by side.  They display exactly the same time.  Now we take one of the STANDARD clocks and place it in motion relative to the other STANDARD clock.  Einstein and other scientists tell us that now the STANDARD clock in motion has a slower rate than the STANDARD clock at rest.  So it is no longer just a STANDARD clock.  It is what you need to call a BROKEN STANDARD clock because it no longer agrees with the STANDARD clock at rest.  But if we stop the BROKEN STANDARD clock from moving, its rate of time once again agrees with the STANDARD clock at rest, so it becomes an UNBROKEN BROKEN STANDARD clock, which means it is just a STANDARD clock again.  I hope this will help you see what is happening. 

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#472931

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-24 22:30 +0000
Message-ID<poboi2$kin$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#472905
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:

>On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 11:13:54 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:

>> That's right, Robert. The Galilean transform is a physics MODEL. It makes
>> predictions about what happens under certain circumstances. The Lorentz
>> transform is another physics MODEL. It makes (different) predictions about
>> what happens under certain circumstances.  They do not control anything.
>> They predict things. For example, the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.
>> If you accept that prediction as true and apply that prediction to various
>> situations, soon you will realize that every single ideal clock
>> These models don't control anything, they just make predictions.
>> Clocks and rulers don't control anything, they just make measurements.

>> Part of science is to take the models and make measurements, to see which
>> models are the closest to what nature actually does. For example, they
>> make measurements and compare the measurements to what the Galilean and
>> Lorentz transforms predict. For very low speeds, such as everything you
>> will encounter during your life except for light itself, science can
>> barely measure any difference or can't measure any difference. On the
>> other hand, for particles moving near the speed of light, there is a large
>> difference, and in that case the Lorentz transform gives by far a better
>> prediction. But none of this should matter to you, there is no situation
>> that a welder will encounter where the Lorentz and Galilean transforms
>> will predict different things.

>> So, when the Galilean transform states t'=t, that is a PREDICTION. If
>> the universe works using the Galilean transform, that statement will be
>> true, and the two clocks will have the same readings. If it holds
>> everywhere in the universe, it will mean that all standard clocks will
>> display the same time, so the only clocks that can exist are standard
>> clocks displaying the same time and broken clocks.

>Well, I will try to explain this in terms that you use yourself so that you
>may be able to comprehend what is being said.  Suppose that we take two 
>STANDARD clocks and put them side by side.  They display exactly the same 
>time.

OK.

>Now we take one of the STANDARD clocks and place it in motion relative to 
>the other STANDARD clock.  Einstein and other scientists tell us that now 
>the STANDARD clock in motion has a slower rate than the STANDARD clock at 
>rest.

AS JUDGED FROM K,
AS JUDGED FROM THIS REFERENCE-BODY,

You keep leaving these very important phrases out!

>So it is no longer just a STANDARD clock.

AS JUDGED FROM K,
AS JUDGED FROM THIS REFERENCE-BODY,

As judged from the moving frame, someone riding along with the moving
clock will see that clock continuing to keep perfect time, according to
what Einstein wrote. (Remember, this is the Lorentz transform, NOT the
Galilean transform, so DON'T write something that assumes the Galilean
Transform).  Also note that (according to Einstein/the Lorentz transform)
the FIRST clock (K) will be seen as running slow by the second observer.

A STANDARD clock is LOCAL to the observer and stationary, according to
SR/the Lorentz transform.  So the MOVING clock is NOT "broken" at all
according to the Lorentz transform because it is not local.

It would be "broken" according to the Galilean Transform if it actually
did that, but since in the Galilean Transform, t'=t, so the clock would
NOT do that, unless it really broke at that time! 

>  It is what you need to call a BROKEN STANDARD clock because it no 
>longer agrees with the STANDARD clock at rest.  But if we stop the BROKEN 
>STANDARD clock from moving, its rate of time once again agrees with the 
>STANDARD clock at rest, so it becomes an UNBROKEN BROKEN STANDARD clock, 
>which means it is just a STANDARD clock again.  I hope this will help you 
>see what is happening. 

100% wrong according to the LT. When moving the clock is not local and
stationary with respect to the stationary observer.

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#472940

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-24 16:10 -0700
Message-ID<c333bb7c-8eb2-4be7-a94e-5ad423019380@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472931
On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 3:30:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 11:13:54 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> >> That's right, Robert. The Galilean transform is a physics MODEL. It makes
> >> predictions about what happens under certain circumstances. The Lorentz
> >> transform is another physics MODEL. It makes (different) predictions about
> >> what happens under certain circumstances.  They do not control anything.
> >> They predict things. For example, the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.
> >> If you accept that prediction as true and apply that prediction to various
> >> situations, soon you will realize that every single ideal clock
> >> These models don't control anything, they just make predictions.
> >> Clocks and rulers don't control anything, they just make measurements.
> 
> >> Part of science is to take the models and make measurements, to see which
> >> models are the closest to what nature actually does. For example, they
> >> make measurements and compare the measurements to what the Galilean and
> >> Lorentz transforms predict. For very low speeds, such as everything you
> >> will encounter during your life except for light itself, science can
> >> barely measure any difference or can't measure any difference. On the
> >> other hand, for particles moving near the speed of light, there is a large
> >> difference, and in that case the Lorentz transform gives by far a better
> >> prediction. But none of this should matter to you, there is no situation
> >> that a welder will encounter where the Lorentz and Galilean transforms
> >> will predict different things.
> 
> >> So, when the Galilean transform states t'=t, that is a PREDICTION. If
> >> the universe works using the Galilean transform, that statement will be
> >> true, and the two clocks will have the same readings. If it holds
> >> everywhere in the universe, it will mean that all standard clocks will
> >> display the same time, so the only clocks that can exist are standard
> >> clocks displaying the same time and broken clocks.
> 
> >Well, I will try to explain this in terms that you use yourself so that you
> >may be able to comprehend what is being said.  Suppose that we take two 
> >STANDARD clocks and put them side by side.  They display exactly the same 
> >time.
> 
> OK.
> 
> >Now we take one of the STANDARD clocks and place it in motion relative to 
> >the other STANDARD clock.  Einstein and other scientists tell us that now 
> >the STANDARD clock in motion has a slower rate than the STANDARD clock at 
> >rest.
> 
> AS JUDGED FROM K,
> AS JUDGED FROM THIS REFERENCE-BODY,
> 
> You keep leaving these very important phrases out!
> 
> >So it is no longer just a STANDARD clock.
> 
> AS JUDGED FROM K,
> AS JUDGED FROM THIS REFERENCE-BODY,
> 
> As judged from the moving frame, someone riding along with the moving
> clock will see that clock continuing to keep perfect time, according to
> what Einstein wrote. (Remember, this is the Lorentz transform, NOT the
> Galilean transform, so DON'T write something that assumes the Galilean
> Transform).  Also note that (according to Einstein/the Lorentz transform)
> the FIRST clock (K) will be seen as running slow by the second observer.
> 
> A STANDARD clock is LOCAL to the observer and stationary, according to
> SR/the Lorentz transform.  So the MOVING clock is NOT "broken" at all
> according to the Lorentz transform because it is not local.
> 
> It would be "broken" according to the Galilean Transform if it actually
> did that, but since in the Galilean Transform, t'=t, so the clock would
> NOT do that, unless it really broke at that time! 
> 
> >  It is what you need to call a BROKEN STANDARD clock because it no 
> >longer agrees with the STANDARD clock at rest.  But if we stop the BROKEN 
> >STANDARD clock from moving, its rate of time once again agrees with the 
> >STANDARD clock at rest, so it becomes an UNBROKEN BROKEN STANDARD clock, 
> >which means it is just a STANDARD clock again.  I hope this will help you 
> >see what is happening. 
> 
> 100% wrong according to the LT. When moving the clock is not local and
> stationary with respect to the stationary observer.

I don't believe in clocks that are only slower from one frame of reference.  If they are slower, they are slower from both frames of reference, as the Galilean transformation equations show.  

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#472944

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-24 23:18 +0000
Message-ID<pobrc3$1p4v$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#472940
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 3:30:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 11:13:54 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> 
>>>> That's right, Robert. The Galilean transform is a physics MODEL. It makes
>>>> predictions about what happens under certain circumstances. The Lorentz
>>>> transform is another physics MODEL. It makes (different) predictions about
>>>> what happens under certain circumstances.  They do not control anything.
>>>> They predict things. For example, the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.
>>>> If you accept that prediction as true and apply that prediction to various
>>>> situations, soon you will realize that every single ideal clock
>>>> These models don't control anything, they just make predictions.
>>>> Clocks and rulers don't control anything, they just make measurements.
>> 
>>>> Part of science is to take the models and make measurements, to see which
>>>> models are the closest to what nature actually does. For example, they
>>>> make measurements and compare the measurements to what the Galilean and
>>>> Lorentz transforms predict. For very low speeds, such as everything you
>>>> will encounter during your life except for light itself, science can
>>>> barely measure any difference or can't measure any difference. On the
>>>> other hand, for particles moving near the speed of light, there is a large
>>>> difference, and in that case the Lorentz transform gives by far a better
>>>> prediction. But none of this should matter to you, there is no situation
>>>> that a welder will encounter where the Lorentz and Galilean transforms
>>>> will predict different things.
>> 
>>>> So, when the Galilean transform states t'=t, that is a PREDICTION. If
>>>> the universe works using the Galilean transform, that statement will be
>>>> true, and the two clocks will have the same readings. If it holds
>>>> everywhere in the universe, it will mean that all standard clocks will
>>>> display the same time, so the only clocks that can exist are standard
>>>> clocks displaying the same time and broken clocks.
>> 
>>> Well, I will try to explain this in terms that you use yourself so that you
>>> may be able to comprehend what is being said.  Suppose that we take two 
>>> STANDARD clocks and put them side by side.  They display exactly the same 
>>> time.
>> 
>> OK.
>> 
>>> Now we take one of the STANDARD clocks and place it in motion relative to 
>>> the other STANDARD clock.  Einstein and other scientists tell us that now 
>>> the STANDARD clock in motion has a slower rate than the STANDARD clock at 
>>> rest.
>> 
>> AS JUDGED FROM K,
>> AS JUDGED FROM THIS REFERENCE-BODY,
>> 
>> You keep leaving these very important phrases out!
>> 
>>> So it is no longer just a STANDARD clock.
>> 
>> AS JUDGED FROM K,
>> AS JUDGED FROM THIS REFERENCE-BODY,
>> 
>> As judged from the moving frame, someone riding along with the moving
>> clock will see that clock continuing to keep perfect time, according to
>> what Einstein wrote. (Remember, this is the Lorentz transform, NOT the
>> Galilean transform, so DON'T write something that assumes the Galilean
>> Transform).  Also note that (according to Einstein/the Lorentz transform)
>> the FIRST clock (K) will be seen as running slow by the second observer.
>> 
>> A STANDARD clock is LOCAL to the observer and stationary, according to
>> SR/the Lorentz transform.  So the MOVING clock is NOT "broken" at all
>> according to the Lorentz transform because it is not local.
>> 
>> It would be "broken" according to the Galilean Transform if it actually
>> did that, but since in the Galilean Transform, t'=t, so the clock would
>> NOT do that, unless it really broke at that time! 
>> 
>>> It is what you need to call a BROKEN STANDARD clock because it no 
>>> longer agrees with the STANDARD clock at rest.  But if we stop the BROKEN 
>>> STANDARD clock from moving, its rate of time once again agrees with the 
>>> STANDARD clock at rest, so it becomes an UNBROKEN BROKEN STANDARD clock, 
>>> which means it is just a STANDARD clock again.  I hope this will help you 
>>> see what is happening. 
>> 
>> 100% wrong according to the LT. When moving the clock is not local and
>> stationary with respect to the stationary observer.
> 
> I don't believe in clocks that are only slower from one frame of
> reference.  If they are slower, they are slower from both frames of
> reference, as the Galilean transformation equations show.  
> 

That would be decided from experiment, not from equations. At least, that’s
how you do it in science. You want to decide based on which equations you
choose? Ok, that’s you. Just you. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#472961

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-24 19:32 -0700
Message-ID<09f6988a-69d6-4ee5-b840-bed9fc0ac66f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472944
On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 4:18:31 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> >> 100% wrong according to the LT. When moving the clock is not local and
> >> stationary with respect to the stationary observer.
> > 
> > I don't believe in clocks that are only slower from one frame of
> > reference.  If they are slower, they are slower from both frames of
> > reference, as the Galilean transformation equations show.  
> > 
> 
> That would be decided from experiment, not from equations. At least, that’s
> how you do it in science. You want to decide based on which equations you
> choose? Ok, that’s you. Just you. 
> 
OK.

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#472952

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-25 00:39 +0000
Message-ID<poc039$cf9$5@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#472940
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:

>On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 3:30:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> 
>> AS JUDGED FROM K,
>> AS JUDGED FROM THIS REFERENCE-BODY,
>> 
>> You keep leaving these very important phrases out!
>> 
>> >So it is no longer just a STANDARD clock.
>> 
>> AS JUDGED FROM K,
>> AS JUDGED FROM THIS REFERENCE-BODY,
>> 
>> As judged from the moving frame, someone riding along with the moving
>> clock will see that clock continuing to keep perfect time, according to
>> what Einstein wrote. (Remember, this is the Lorentz transform, NOT the
>> Galilean transform, so DON'T write something that assumes the Galilean
>> Transform).  Also note that (according to Einstein/the Lorentz transform)
>> the FIRST clock (K) will be seen as running slow by the second observer.
>> 
>> A STANDARD clock is LOCAL to the observer and stationary, according to
>> SR/the Lorentz transform.  So the MOVING clock is NOT "broken" at all
>> according to the Lorentz transform because it is not local.
>> 
>> It would be "broken" according to the Galilean Transform if it actually
>> did that, but since in the Galilean Transform, t'=t, so the clock would
>> NOT do that, unless it really broke at that time! 
>> 
>> >  It is what you need to call a BROKEN STANDARD clock because it no 
>> >longer agrees with the STANDARD clock at rest.  But if we stop the BROKEN 
>> >STANDARD clock from moving, its rate of time once again agrees with the 
>> >STANDARD clock at rest, so it becomes an UNBROKEN BROKEN STANDARD clock, 
>> >which means it is just a STANDARD clock again.  I hope this will help you 
>> >see what is happening. 
>> 
>> 100% wrong according to the LT. When moving the clock is not local and
>> stationary with respect to the stationary observer.

>I don't believe in clocks that are only slower from one frame of 
>reference.  If they are slower, they are slower from both frames of 
>reference, as the Galilean transformation equations show.  

As I stated, the Galilean transform predicts all ideal clocks are in
perfect synch with each other, and all will display the same time, always.
That's because the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.  The Lorentz 
transform does not have a single time that's the same everywhere in the
universe, because it does not predict t'=t.  What real scientists do is
to run experiments whose results will determine which model is more 
correct.

And guess what? At high speeds, the Lorentz transform's predictions,
including clocks that are slower in one frame of reference and not the
other, matches the experimental results much better than the Galilean
transform. At low speeds, however, the difference is almost unmeasureable.
So go ahead and use the Galilean transform, as welders are very unlikely
to encounter pion beams moving at 99% of c.

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#472963

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-24 19:36 -0700
Message-ID<15a8ee06-6a06-47ea-9473-41608f13fe6a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472952
On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 5:39:07 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 3:30:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> 
> >> AS JUDGED FROM K,
> >> AS JUDGED FROM THIS REFERENCE-BODY,
> >> 
> >> You keep leaving these very important phrases out!
> >> 
> >> >So it is no longer just a STANDARD clock.
> >> 
> >> AS JUDGED FROM K,
> >> AS JUDGED FROM THIS REFERENCE-BODY,
> >> 
> >> As judged from the moving frame, someone riding along with the moving
> >> clock will see that clock continuing to keep perfect time, according to
> >> what Einstein wrote. (Remember, this is the Lorentz transform, NOT the
> >> Galilean transform, so DON'T write something that assumes the Galilean
> >> Transform).  Also note that (according to Einstein/the Lorentz transform)
> >> the FIRST clock (K) will be seen as running slow by the second observer.
> >> 
> >> A STANDARD clock is LOCAL to the observer and stationary, according to
> >> SR/the Lorentz transform.  So the MOVING clock is NOT "broken" at all
> >> according to the Lorentz transform because it is not local.
> >> 
> >> It would be "broken" according to the Galilean Transform if it actually
> >> did that, but since in the Galilean Transform, t'=t, so the clock would
> >> NOT do that, unless it really broke at that time! 
> >> 
> >> >  It is what you need to call a BROKEN STANDARD clock because it no 
> >> >longer agrees with the STANDARD clock at rest.  But if we stop the BROKEN 
> >> >STANDARD clock from moving, its rate of time once again agrees with the 
> >> >STANDARD clock at rest, so it becomes an UNBROKEN BROKEN STANDARD clock, 
> >> >which means it is just a STANDARD clock again.  I hope this will help you 
> >> >see what is happening. 
> >> 
> >> 100% wrong according to the LT. When moving the clock is not local and
> >> stationary with respect to the stationary observer.
> 
> >I don't believe in clocks that are only slower from one frame of 
> >reference.  If they are slower, they are slower from both frames of 
> >reference, as the Galilean transformation equations show.  
> 
> As I stated, the Galilean transform predicts all ideal clocks are in
> perfect synch with each other, and all will display the same time, always.
> That's because the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.  The Lorentz 
> transform does not have a single time that's the same everywhere in the
> universe, because it does not predict t'=t.  What real scientists do is
> to run experiments whose results will determine which model is more 
> correct.
> 
> And guess what? At high speeds, the Lorentz transform's predictions,
> including clocks that are slower in one frame of reference and not the
> other, matches the experimental results much better than the Galilean
> transform. At low speeds, however, the difference is almost unmeasureable.
> So go ahead and use the Galilean transform, as welders are very unlikely
> to encounter pion beams moving at 99% of c.

What about photons?  Can welders encounter photons?  Your equations say that photons cannot exist because nothing can reach the speed of light.  

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#472974

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-25 03:16 +0000
Message-ID<poc9ac$20b$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#472963
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:

>On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 5:39:07 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:

>> As I stated, the Galilean transform predicts all ideal clocks are in
>> perfect synch with each other, and all will display the same time, always.
>> That's because the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.  The Lorentz 
>> transform does not have a single time that's the same everywhere in the
>> universe, because it does not predict t'=t.  What real scientists do is
>> to run experiments whose results will determine which model is more 
>> correct.
>> 
>> And guess what? At high speeds, the Lorentz transform's predictions,
>> including clocks that are slower in one frame of reference and not the
>> other, matches the experimental results much better than the Galilean
>> transform. At low speeds, however, the difference is almost unmeasureable.
>> So go ahead and use the Galilean transform, as welders are very unlikely
>> to encounter pion beams moving at 99% of c.

>What about photons?  Can welders encounter photons?  Your equations say 
>that photons cannot exist because nothing can reach the speed of light.  

What about them? While obviously light travels at the speed of light,
how will you apply either the Galilean transform or the Lorentz transform
to light? The best you can do is try to measure time from the frame of the
photon??? They don't have little clocks. And how does it affect you?

I suppose that in the Lorentz transform could say that at c, length 
contraction goes to 0 and time dilation is infinite, so photons wouldn't
experience any time, but again they don't have little clocks, plus how does
it affect you?

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#472985

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-24 23:55 -0700
Message-ID<5725f99d-27f1-43e9-a585-20e5570c2154@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472974
On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 8:16:29 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 5:39:07 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> >> As I stated, the Galilean transform predicts all ideal clocks are in
> >> perfect synch with each other, and all will display the same time, always.
> >> That's because the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.  The Lorentz 
> >> transform does not have a single time that's the same everywhere in the
> >> universe, because it does not predict t'=t.  What real scientists do is
> >> to run experiments whose results will determine which model is more 
> >> correct.
> >> 
> >> And guess what? At high speeds, the Lorentz transform's predictions,
> >> including clocks that are slower in one frame of reference and not the
> >> other, matches the experimental results much better than the Galilean
> >> transform. At low speeds, however, the difference is almost unmeasureable.
> >> So go ahead and use the Galilean transform, as welders are very unlikely
> >> to encounter pion beams moving at 99% of c.
> 
> >What about photons?  Can welders encounter photons?  Your equations say 
> >that photons cannot exist because nothing can reach the speed of light.  
> 
> What about them? While obviously light travels at the speed of light,
> how will you apply either the Galilean transform or the Lorentz transform
> to light? The best you can do is try to measure time from the frame of the
> photon??? They don't have little clocks. And how does it affect you?
> 
> I suppose that in the Lorentz transform could say that at c, length 
> contraction goes to 0 and time dilation is infinite, so photons wouldn't
> experience any time, but again they don't have little clocks, plus how does
> it affect you?

Well, I don't see photons as little beebees the way scientists do.  They are just an abstract idea to me.  In any event, since they have no length in the Lorentz equations, they do not exist according to scientists.  Photons were invented by Einstein.  Like so many of Einstein's ideas, they have never been explained.
But I am able to see light, so I am affected in that way.  I thought clocks were so important to you that you would have a little clock on a photon, but you say otherwise.  So if the little clock does not exist, how does t' exist?
You said that the only definition for t' was the time on a clock in S'.  Now you are saying that t' does not exist for a photon.  

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#473045

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-25 17:34 +0000
Message-ID<podrih$14ls$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#472985
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 8:16:29 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 5:39:07 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> 
>>>> As I stated, the Galilean transform predicts all ideal clocks are in
>>>> perfect synch with each other, and all will display the same time, always.
>>>> That's because the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.  The Lorentz 
>>>> transform does not have a single time that's the same everywhere in the
>>>> universe, because it does not predict t'=t.  What real scientists do is
>>>> to run experiments whose results will determine which model is more 
>>>> correct.
>>>> 
>>>> And guess what? At high speeds, the Lorentz transform's predictions,
>>>> including clocks that are slower in one frame of reference and not the
>>>> other, matches the experimental results much better than the Galilean
>>>> transform. At low speeds, however, the difference is almost unmeasureable.
>>>> So go ahead and use the Galilean transform, as welders are very unlikely
>>>> to encounter pion beams moving at 99% of c.
>> 
>>> What about photons?  Can welders encounter photons?  Your equations say 
>>> that photons cannot exist because nothing can reach the speed of light.  
>> 
>> What about them? While obviously light travels at the speed of light,
>> how will you apply either the Galilean transform or the Lorentz transform
>> to light? The best you can do is try to measure time from the frame of the
>> photon??? They don't have little clocks. And how does it affect you?
>> 
>> I suppose that in the Lorentz transform could say that at c, length 
>> contraction goes to 0 and time dilation is infinite, so photons wouldn't
>> experience any time, but again they don't have little clocks, plus how does
>> it affect you?
> 
> Well, I don't see photons as little beebees the way scientists do.  

They’re not BBs to scientists either. 

> They are just an abstract idea to me.  In any event, since they have no
> length in the Lorentz equations, they do not exist according to scientists.  

Lol. Why would you say that existence is tied to length according to
physicists?

> Photons were invented by Einstein.  Like so many of Einstein's ideas,
> they have never been explained.

Of course they have. Would you like a nice book reference?

> But I am able to see light, so I am affected in that way.  I thought
> clocks were so important to you that you would have a little clock on a
> photon, but you say otherwise.  So if the little clock does not exist, how does t' exist?
> You said that the only definition for t' was the time on a clock in S'. 
> Now you are saying that t' does not exist for a photon.  
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473113

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-25 23:19 -0700
Message-ID<3c689272-32d9-4745-a80b-231d18102bed@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473045
On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 10:34:14 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 8:16:29 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
> >> 
> >>> On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 5:39:07 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> 
> >>>> As I stated, the Galilean transform predicts all ideal clocks are in
> >>>> perfect synch with each other, and all will display the same time, always.
> >>>> That's because the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.  The Lorentz 
> >>>> transform does not have a single time that's the same everywhere in the
> >>>> universe, because it does not predict t'=t.  What real scientists do is
> >>>> to run experiments whose results will determine which model is more 
> >>>> correct.
> >>>> 
> >>>> And guess what? At high speeds, the Lorentz transform's predictions,
> >>>> including clocks that are slower in one frame of reference and not the
> >>>> other, matches the experimental results much better than the Galilean
> >>>> transform. At low speeds, however, the difference is almost unmeasureable.
> >>>> So go ahead and use the Galilean transform, as welders are very unlikely
> >>>> to encounter pion beams moving at 99% of c.
> >> 
> >>> What about photons?  Can welders encounter photons?  Your equations say 
> >>> that photons cannot exist because nothing can reach the speed of light.  
> >> 
> >> What about them? While obviously light travels at the speed of light,
> >> how will you apply either the Galilean transform or the Lorentz transform
> >> to light? The best you can do is try to measure time from the frame of the
> >> photon??? They don't have little clocks. And how does it affect you?
> >> 
> >> I suppose that in the Lorentz transform could say that at c, length 
> >> contraction goes to 0 and time dilation is infinite, so photons wouldn't
> >> experience any time, but again they don't have little clocks, plus how does
> >> it affect you?
> > 
> > Well, I don't see photons as little beebees the way scientists do.  
> 
> They’re not BBs to scientists either. 
> 
> > They are just an abstract idea to me.  In any event, since they have no
> > length in the Lorentz equations, they do not exist according to scientists.  
> 
> Lol. Why would you say that existence is tied to length according to
> physicists?
> 
> > Photons were invented by Einstein.  Like so many of Einstein's ideas,
> > they have never been explained.
> 
> Of course they have. Would you like a nice book reference?

If it is something you are too lazy to post, I am not much interested in it.  
> 

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#473135

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-26 14:24 +0000
Message-ID<pog4ri$15a5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473113
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 10:34:14 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 8:16:29 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 5:39:07 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> As I stated, the Galilean transform predicts all ideal clocks are in
>>>>>> perfect synch with each other, and all will display the same time, always.
>>>>>> That's because the Galilean transform predicts t'=t.  The Lorentz 
>>>>>> transform does not have a single time that's the same everywhere in the
>>>>>> universe, because it does not predict t'=t.  What real scientists do is
>>>>>> to run experiments whose results will determine which model is more 
>>>>>> correct.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And guess what? At high speeds, the Lorentz transform's predictions,
>>>>>> including clocks that are slower in one frame of reference and not the
>>>>>> other, matches the experimental results much better than the Galilean
>>>>>> transform. At low speeds, however, the difference is almost unmeasureable.
>>>>>> So go ahead and use the Galilean transform, as welders are very unlikely
>>>>>> to encounter pion beams moving at 99% of c.
>>>> 
>>>>> What about photons?  Can welders encounter photons?  Your equations say 
>>>>> that photons cannot exist because nothing can reach the speed of light.  
>>>> 
>>>> What about them? While obviously light travels at the speed of light,
>>>> how will you apply either the Galilean transform or the Lorentz transform
>>>> to light? The best you can do is try to measure time from the frame of the
>>>> photon??? They don't have little clocks. And how does it affect you?
>>>> 
>>>> I suppose that in the Lorentz transform could say that at c, length 
>>>> contraction goes to 0 and time dilation is infinite, so photons wouldn't
>>>> experience any time, but again they don't have little clocks, plus how does
>>>> it affect you?
>>> 
>>> Well, I don't see photons as little beebees the way scientists do.  
>> 
>> They’re not BBs to scientists either. 
>> 
>>> They are just an abstract idea to me.  In any event, since they have no
>>> length in the Lorentz equations, they do not exist according to scientists.  
>> 
>> Lol. Why would you say that existence is tied to length according to
>> physicists?
>> 
>>> Photons were invented by Einstein.  Like so many of Einstein's ideas,
>>> they have never been explained.
>> 
>> Of course they have. Would you like a nice book reference?
> 
> If it is something you are too lazy to post, I am not much interested in it.  
>> 
> 

You’re not interested in it enough to look at it unless some one spoonfeeds
it to you here. You project your own laziness onto others? Really? 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473138

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-26 07:45 -0700
Message-ID<58b0c925-a79e-43d9-b79f-f21e09ef422b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473135
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:24:54 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> >> 
> >> Of course they have. Would you like a nice book reference?
> > 
> > If it is something you are too lazy to post, I am not much interested in it.  
> >> 
> > 
> 
> You’re not interested in it enough to look at it unless some one spoonfeeds
> it to you here. You project your own laziness onto others? Really? 
> 
If you think having a conversation consists of providing links to irrelevant discussions of the Special Theory of Relativity, then there are a lot of nice scientists in sci.physics.relativity who would probably be thrilled to discuss the length contraction with you.  Personally, I am just not interested in it.  I do not believe in the length contraction.  The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.  

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#473146

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-26 15:08 +0000
Message-ID<pog7dq$lup$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#473138
Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> writes:

>> You're not interested in it enough to look at it unless some one spoonfeeds
>> it to you here. You project your own laziness onto others? Really?

>If you think having a conversation consists of providing links to 
>irrelevant discussions of the Special Theory of Relativity, then there 
>are a lot of nice scientists in sci.physics.relativity who would probably 
>be thrilled to discuss the length contraction with you.  Personally, I am 
>just not interested in it.

Then why did you ask for Einstein's explanation of photons?

>  I do not believe in the length contraction.  
>The Galilean transformation equations do not have a length contraction.

Which is why it is no longer used, it does not model nature well.

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